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Ponies ate my Bagel posted:So CA should I be "busy" when he asks me to ride, or should I give him another chance? Advice: discuss how you're going to ride before you ride with somebody you haven't before. That's what we do before trips and with new people - talk about formation and group technique, pace, time and place. In my book you did it backwards by talking about how you're riding after you've been riding.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 19:58 |
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clutchpuck posted:Advice: discuss how you're going to ride before you ride with somebody you haven't before. That's what we do before trips and with new people - talk about formation and group technique, pace, time and place. In my book you did it backwards by talking about how you're riding after you've been riding. That's a good rule, I know when we met he was a little frustrated. Showed up 15 minutes late due to getting stuck behind slow people etc. I just honestly didn't expect him to ride like that at all. He's always mellow and usually rips on other guys for riding fast, it was just such a change from the guy I'm used to. Like I said though it was my first time riding with him. It was actually the first time I've ridden with someone in over 5 years, except for a ride with my uncle when I went back home and he was still healing from an accident that ended up in a life-flight and 8 week hospital stay.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 20:13 |
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If his riding makes you uncomfortable you shouldn't ride with him. Period.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 20:57 |
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I'd let him know you'll just split if he rides like a twat again, but I'd give him another chance. I had a mate that did something stupid on a ride with me once and I gave him a mouthful and he stopped being an idiot. He's a new rider though.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 21:13 |
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I don't quite understand why people who ride like that WANT to ride with other people. I ride like a dong sometimes, and it's more fun on your own. Dongs ride free. Untethered, unrestrained.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 21:36 |
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Riding with cautious people is dangerous enough. I wouldn't risk it personally.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 21:42 |
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The Cycle Asylum version of "Sever." If the dude was responsive after you expressed your disapproval and he changed his riding, what's the problem? You guys are harsh.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 21:47 |
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Everyone has off days every so often, or more dong-tastic days. I'd say give him another chance and see how it goes.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 21:52 |
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If you, like me, have been wondering which waterproof GPS to get, it's starting to look like the age of the dedicated nav device is coming to an end. The new Sony Xperia V is waterproof, so I'll probably be getting that as my next phone - or whichever other model with similar features is current when I need it. It won't be as good and as useful as a dedicated unit, sure. But the money saved and the number of birds killed with one stone is really nice. Problem: Phone is now a basket extremely full of eggs and is sitting out in the weather exposed to flying rocks. If broken, holiday destroyed. Perhaps get a car GPS for normal use and use the phone as backup for that time I really need to find my way in the pissing rain.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 21:55 |
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hayden. posted:As a previous KLR650 owner, I also wouldn't recommend it for super long trips unless you put a nice aftermarket seat on, some highway pegs, street tires, and a huge windscreen. If you just want it for the occasional gravel road, pretty much any bike aside from 800 pound Goldwings and cruisers can do them just fine if you go slow enough. I guess having a KLR as my first bike changed my perspective. Sure, my Aprilia Futura sport tourer feels planted by comparison, but even my Yamaha WR250R feels fine for days at 70mph.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 21:58 |
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On the other side of the coin, coming from cruisers to my Uly, the aggressive geometry and light weight had me pretty nervous for the first few hundred miles.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 22:07 |
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I don't quite understand why people who ride like that WANT to ride with other people. I ride like a dong sometimes, and it's more fun on your own. Dongs ride free. Untethered, unrestrained. Agreed, Dongs ride free! This guy was probably trying to impress you, maybe he has a bro crush. You should try to help him relax and enjoy the ride instead being a try hard. A reach around should do it.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 22:29 |
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HNasty posted:Agreed, Dongs ride free! This guy was probably trying to impress you, maybe he has a bro crush. You should try to help him relax and enjoy the ride instead being a try hard. A reach around should do it. I doubt he was trying to impress me. We've been friends for about 3 years now and neither of us should have anything to prove. I didn't ride super fast, but I did ride faster than I normally would by myself. It's not that I can't handle the speed I just don't think you should be riding like that on the street.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 22:42 |
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clutchpuck posted:On the other side of the coin, coming from cruisers to my Uly, the aggressive geometry and light weight had me pretty nervous for the first few hundred miles. Haha, coming from my old bike I was like "drat this thing's a heavy pig" and "wow it doesn't feel like I'm going to lift off when there's a bit of frontal wind". I've always wondered what a shorty XB feels like though, especially the R, ours are of course watered down versions.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 22:43 |
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Lot of dongs in this thread. I guess now that you have a pipe and slippers tourer in the VFR you hate fun and are probably better off socialising with aerostich clad BMW riders.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 22:48 |
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this is what happens when you ride a vfr instead of the DRZ
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echomadman posted:Lot of dongs in this thread. I guess now that you have a pipe and slippers tourer in the VFR you hate fun and are probably better off socialising with aerostich clad BMW riders. Jim Silly-Balls posted:this is what happens when you ride a vfr instead of the DRZ Hahaha, no. I still ride about the same speeds as I did on the DRZ albeit I don't back the VFR in. The difference is the DRZ topped out in the low 90's and the VFR is barely straining at that speed. High speed takes on a different meaning at 70-90 vs 140-160 mph. The places he was speeding through aren't places I would have donged it up on the DRZ anyways. Lots of blind driveways and it's not a traffic light area. A rider just died there about 2 weeks ago. I like to go fast, but there's a time and a place for that.
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# ? Feb 25, 2013 23:33 |
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High Protein posted:Haha, coming from my old bike I was like "drat this thing's a heavy pig" and "wow it doesn't feel like I'm going to lift off when there's a bit of frontal wind". I've always wondered what a shorty XB feels like though, especially the R, ours are of course watered down versions. A friend of mine is looking at Lightning Longs, and I told him he should get a standard wheelbase model... so I can try it out. I imagine the front wheel comes up even more ridiculously easy than with the long wheelbase.
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echomadman posted:Lot of dongs in this thread. I guess now that you have a pipe and slippers tourer in the VFR you hate fun and are probably better off socialising with aerostich clad BMW riders. Hey! I'm starting to resemble that remark. (ohgodiwantaonepeiceAerostichsuit)
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Ponies ate my Bagel posted:I don't want to be an rear end, but I'm not sure I want to ride with him again. I'd really hate to be the one calling 911 to come scrape what's left of him off the road after a 120+mph wreck. It also encourages me to ride faster, which I don't want to do. I've got a family to support and I shouldn't be riding like a total dong. Ride the way you want to ride, and tell your buddy that. The terms of riding as a group are that you're out for some casual enjoyment, and you have no intention of scraping anyone off the road. If you think he won't honour that, then just decline. I've been in groups that have elected to sit by the side of the road for an hour so the moron who turned up will go away. "God decides if I live or die" had no place in that group's riding culture, and we weren't going to let anyone impose that on us. It's not fair for him to impose his behaviour (risks and consequences too) on you. Faux-edit: What many others have said.
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 01:28 |
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I've only gone on three (small) group rides so far, but at all of them the attitude was "ride your own ride at your own pace, we'll wait if people get left behind", and while some people liked to shoot ahead, no one was too much of a showoff. I guess that isn't the normal experience? It sure is tempting to push harder than you're comfortable with to keep up with the faster people, though. That's hard to deal with. And gently caress blind curves...I end up taking the ones I can see through about twice as hard as the ones I can't, even if I know the road beyond it. Cars appearing suddenly two feet over the line are my worst nightmare
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 01:37 |
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He waited for me at all the stops, he wasn't bad to ride with it just unnerved me. I didn't want to be a mile or two back and manage to snag the cop he left behind or something. It didn't help that all the cagers he'd already pissed off and left in his wake were in my path. We'll probably ride again and I'll be more up front about how comfortable I am with riding like that.
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Pokey Araya posted:Hey! I'm starting to resemble that remark. (ohgodiwantaonepeiceAerostichsuit) I got one recently, it's awesome. Do a nationwide craigslist search for your size and ask nicely if the person selling will ship it.
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Ola posted:If you, like me, have been wondering which waterproof GPS to get, it's starting to look like the age of the dedicated nav device is coming to an end. The new Sony Xperia V is waterproof, so I'll probably be getting that as my next phone - or whichever other model with similar features is current when I need it. It won't be as good and as useful as a dedicated unit, sure. But the money saved and the number of birds killed with one stone is really nice. The Gods have spoken, why do you continue to draw their ire?
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Ola posted:If you, like me, have been wondering which waterproof GPS to get, it's starting to look like the age of the dedicated nav device is coming to an end. The new Sony Xperia V is waterproof, so I'll probably be getting that as my next phone - or whichever other model with similar features is current when I need it. It won't be as good and as useful as a dedicated unit, sure. But the money saved and the number of birds killed with one stone is really nice. I'm certain I've posted this a dozen times, but a Nokia 5800 or similar is available for cheap enough to be effectively disposable, has the excellent Nokia Maps preloaded, has a truly stupendous battery life by modern smartphone standards, and even has a resistive touch screen so you can use it with gloves and through a waterproof container like this. Keep your main phone well wrapped up somewhere so it's still got charge at the end of the ride (or to call an ambulance if the worst happens) and you're sorted.
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 18:34 |
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I usually do a 2-4 hour ride every weekend and that's it. I don't really commute on my bike. Insurance is $100 a month because I'm young and on a sport bike. I spend about $100 a month on gas for the bike too. After wear and maintenance and depreciation, it's depressing that every weekend ride effectively costs me like $60+.
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 20:34 |
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You live in PDX now, right? We should meet up sometime for a ride. I ride a wr250x though, not the best traveling companion for your zx14.
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hayden. posted:I usually do a 2-4 hour ride every weekend and that's it. I don't really commute on my bike. Insurance is $100 a month because I'm young and on a sport bike. I spend about $100 a month on gas for the bike too. After wear and maintenance and depreciation, it's depressing that every weekend ride effectively costs me like $60+. Compared to a drug habit 60/week isn't too bad. 4/20 NEVER FORGET posted:You live in PDX now, right? We should meet up sometime for a ride. I ride a wr250x though, not the best traveling companion for your zx14. A bit off topic but weren't you the guy who knew FZ6 sword man? Ever chat with him?
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 20:42 |
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Had a fun weekend jaunt - (Roughly 400 miles) East side of the journey was awesome for all the fighter jets, including one that turned and dove towards the road to fly alongside it. Couldn't get the Top Gun theme out of my head for the rest of the journey. Other good bits included having a fellow in hi-vis on a touring BMW shoot by traffic behind me, and pull up behind my left quarter. Just about poo poo myself, I thought I was getting pulled, then I ended up meeting him in a greasy spoon halfway home, had a good laugh with him. More annoyingly, had a bloody security truck pull up right behind a cement lorry to stop anyone overtaking safely. Felt great flying past the fucker when I hit dual carriageway, not so great when I was going past another truck towards the end of the dual carriageway and the git decided to accelerate. Didn't realise what he was doing until I saw the chevrons approach and had to drop speed rather dramatically. Must have been one of the older ones that wasn't limited to 56! e: On second thought, that dude owned. Smoked my shitey motorbike in a race through the Scottish mountains, it's basically the plot to the next Fast and Furious movie. Wootcannon fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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So I've now got two of the six people I work with riding in to work (one is getting over his terror of London traffic and bringing his weekend toy in, the other just signed for a new CBF125), and I'm working on another two. By summer I don't want to be a team leader, I want to be head of a chapter.
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 22:18 |
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You realise you'll need to ban any flexitime completely so you can all roll in at the same time, right?
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4/20 NEVER FORGET posted:You live in PDX now, right? We should meet up sometime for a ride. I ride a wr250x though, not the best traveling companion for your zx14. That'd be cool. I'm really pretty slow going because I don't like the idea of $300 speeding tickets or getting my bike impounded. Also slow in corners because I'm a wimp and all I can think about when going through corners is the thousands of dollars in damage that would come from a simple low side. I'm planning on going up to Mt. St. Helens (Windy Ridge Observatory) in late July if that sounds like fun to you. hayden. fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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hayden. posted:That'd be cool. I'm really pretty slow going because I don't like the idea of $300 speeding tickets or getting my bike impounded. Also slow in corners because I'm a wimp and all I can think about when going through corners is the thousands of dollars in damage that would come from a simple low side. I'm planning on going up to Mt. St. Helens in late July if that sounds like fun to you. As a newbie, I have found that "you can always push (countersteer) harder" and "you need to look even further down the road" help me to be less of a wimp in corners. I'm still slow, but I'm smoother and more confident if I keep reminding myself of those two things. As for speed in a straight line, well, that's boring and stupid anyway and that has absolutely nothing to do with my particular motorcycle's top speed.
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If you're reading up on form and trying to hang off the bike keep in mind it's going to feel very, very boring if you aren't really pushing in the turns. It makes sense the faster you go so you can kind of push it a bit. If you're just putting along the road hanging wayyy off the bike it's going to feel dumb and the bike is going to be basically upright. You can go faster and countersteer harder to lean over farther and carry more speed. Alternatively, buy a supermoto, say gently caress all that and just lazily hang a leg out while going 10mph faster through turns than all the much faster sportbikes.
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 22:46 |
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Wootcannon posted:You realise you'll need to ban any flexitime completely so you can all roll in at the same time, right? The visual effect will be ruined by a Shiver, a Street Triple, a CBF125, and (prospective) a Thunderbird and an NC700 rocking up together. Also it might be Stockholm syndrome kicking in from all the time spent in the Honda dealer up the road during this but the new Hornet in matt black is starting to look sexy as gently caress despite it's egregious overabundance of pistons.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The visual effect will be ruined by a Shiver, a Street Triple, a CBF125, and (prospective) a Thunderbird I had to google that, I thought it was either fortified wine, the only televised example of my limb-body ratio, or an incredibly gay car.
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Sagebrush posted:As a newbie, I have found that "you can always push (countersteer) harder" and "you need to look even further down the road" help me to be less of a wimp in corners. I'm still slow, but I'm smoother and more confident if I keep reminding myself of those two things. My problem is more the roads than a lack of confidence. They're narrow two lane mountain roads with no shoulder, gravel, water, potholes, and moss everywhere, steep falls on both sides, and idiots who cross the double yellow constantly on blind turns.
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 22:54 |
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Wootcannon posted:I had to google that, I thought it was either fortified wine, the only televised example of my limb-body ratio, or an incredibly gay car. It's all of those things - in a convenient two-wheeled form! Also they have one of these things in the Honda dealer: I've never seen a bike that looks more like an item of medical equipment.
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# ? Feb 26, 2013 22:57 |
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My mate's dildo looks *exactly* like that.hayden. posted:My problem is more the roads than a lack of confidence. They're narrow two lane mountain roads with no shoulder, gravel, water, potholes, and moss everywhere, steep falls on both sides, and idiots who cross the double yellow constantly on blind turns. I get that, I'm totally gonna get a bollocking if I ever do any advanced motorcycle lessons because I keep into the edge of the road a lot on long runs, solely because one of the country runs I do just has everything up to semi-trailers casually taking a racing line across corners. Getting a bit more confident with it now because I figure - they're not expecting a bike, they're expecting a car, so it must be a lot less into the opposing carriageway than it looks.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's all of those things - in a convenient two-wheeled form! I've always kind of liked those, just because they're so weird. I sat on one when they unveiled it at the Tokyo motor show years ago, it's super comfortable. But weird.
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