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docbeard posted:The Merlin always has three plans. The plan, the backup plan, and the ace in the hole. I don't know what his plan or his backup plan was, but I feel pretty certain that Aiming Harry at the Red Court and standing back was his ace in the hole. When did any of this happen? This is the same Merlin mentioned in Cold Days? Isn't the head of the White Council also named Merlin? Probably not. Anyway, at the end of the book, its implied Karrin stays with Harry in the cabin on the island while Thomas rides the boat out, correct? Also I thought the Sidhe could see through veils. Why wasn't molly visible? Her veil is just that good I suppose? Edit: Okay so the head of the white council is also named Merlin. This talking about THE Merlin and a merlin confused me. Is THE Merlin some dude that walks back and forth through time in the series? Or are we talking about the head of the white council Merlin aiming Harry in Changes instead of the original Merlin whos now probably dead? Kneel Before Zog fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Feb 14, 2013 |
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Kneel Before Zog posted:When did any of this happen? This is the same Merlin mentioned in Cold Days? Isn't the head of the White Council also named Merlin? Probably not. Anyway, at the end of the book, its implied Karrin stays with Harry in the cabin on the island while Thomas rides the boat out, correct? Also I thought the Sidhe could see through veils. Why wasn't molly visible? Her veil is just that good I suppose? The Merlin is the head of the White Council. The three plan thing is mentioned in Summer Knight, IIRC.
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Kneel Before Zog posted:Anyway, at the end of the book, its implied Karrin stays with Harry in the cabin on the island while Thomas rides the boat out, correct? Nope, she and Mouse leave with Thomas.
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Kneel Before Zog posted:Okay so the head of the white council is also named Merlin. The current Merlin's name is Arthur Langtry and should not be confused with the original man named Merlin who built the prison underneath Demonreach.
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Just finished Libriomancer. I liked it. It suffers from the same awkward love scenes as Dresden but overall it wasn't bad. Too bad the next one doesn't come out until August.
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Pretty interesting that Mab used to be human once. Does that mean Mother Winter and Mother Summer also used to be human? I guess it's all speculation at this point What was Mab's master plan with Dresden anyway? To have Dresden protect Sarrisa?
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From what Mother Summer said, I think sidhe are born as changelings then chose to become faeries.
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Caterwaul posted:From what Mother Summer said, I think sidhe are born as changelings then chose to become faeries. That's the impression I got too. It explains why they don't just forget about making changelings altogether, since it rarely seems to go right for them.
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I just made a post on my blog about the audiobook narrator James Marsters (plus several other narrators) as a result of a discovery from this forum. Only through book 10, but I think that's enough to comment on the series at least, right? http://www.audiobooknerds.com/nerdblog/slapyourfriend1
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Litch991 posted:I just made a post on my blog about the audiobook narrator James Marsters (plus several other narrators) as a result of a discovery from this forum. Only through book 10, but I think that's enough to comment on the series at least, right? No you have to have read every piece of Dresden lore...
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Seriously though, some major poo poo goes down in book 12 that is no longer spoiler tagged in this thread. We usually go back to looking like a CIA document when someone new shows up, but just a little warning in advance.
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404GoonNotFound posted:Seriously though, some major poo poo goes down in book 12 that is no longer spoiler tagged in this thread. We usually go back to looking like a CIA document when someone new shows up, but just a little warning in advance. book 12-14 are all basically full of things you don't want to know until you get there.
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Anyone been wondering what the purpose of the Winter Lady is? Maeve refers to her duties as being Mab's "hunting falcon" and Mab says Knight and Lady often works together. Knight kills mortals while the Lady does the same for creatures of faerie? Summer equivalents protects/heals?
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It doesn't seem like there is a purpose for the Ladies besides being the Queen in training. As such they are delegated responsibilities as the Queens see fit. (Mab's comment about no longer letting Maeve pick the Knight after what happened with Lloyd Slate)
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Deadbeat posted:It doesn't seem like there is a purpose for the Ladies besides being the Queen in training. As such they are delegated responsibilities as the Queens see fit. (Mab's comment about no longer letting Maeve pick the Knight after what happened with Lloyd Slate) Mother Winter makes a similar comment about Mab being too much of a romantic. That should put things in perspective.
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My take on Mother Winter's comment about Mab being a romantic was Mother Winter's way of calling Mab a fool for making Dresden kill Maeve instead of just stomping her herself.
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Yeah, it's just meant to be funny. You know, calling the physical manifestation of cold logic and predatory instincts sentimental.
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Mother Winter's comment is intended to be more of a statement about Mother Winter than Mab.
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Deadbeat posted:It doesn't seem like there is a purpose for the Ladies besides being the Queen in training. As such they are delegated responsibilities as the Queens see fit. (Mab's comment about no longer letting Maeve pick the Knight after what happened with Lloyd Slate) As the weakest queens, they can intervene a lot more, though restricted from acting on mortals, a Lady seems to be the moderate response option for their faction against other supernaturals. They are also the only Queens who routinely hang out outside the Nevernever, which makes it seem to me that they are effectively first response heavies against other supernatural meddling.
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http://pic.twitter.com/QcXYKIrPB3 "Dresden Files crew at the masquerade"  edit; has anyone read any of Seanan McGuire's work? Was recommended on Butchers twitter as being a "good urban fantasy author" http://www.seananmcguire.com/ tithin fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Feb 24, 2013 |
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Tithin Melias posted:edit; has anyone read any of Seanan McGuire's work? Was recommended on Butchers twitter as being a "good urban fantasy author" I tried her first book, just couldn't get into it. To much angst.
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Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's a little similar to Dresden in that it's slow to pick up, but then poo poo gets real and it just cruises along.
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It's nice if you can get past the goldfish angst in book 1 of the toby books. In the same way that Storm Front isn't the best Dresden, Rosemary and Rue isn't the best October Daye. It gets progressively more entertaining, and I really cannot recommend the later books enough without spoiling them, so go read them already. Actually - she deserves her own thread, since both of her series are ongoing and have things to laugh/talk about. If you haven't read Discount Armageddon, her InCryptid series opener, you are missing out on Aeslin Mice and that is pure tragedy. Anias fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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I really need to read more urban fantasy with a female main character. I can handle female protagonists easily in any genre but urban fantasy, but I find myself shying away from them in urban fantasy after being burned by too many novels that devolve into irritating paranormal romances where way too much of the novel revolves around the main character flirting/sleeping with the hot vampire/werewolf (bonus points if he's an alpha werewolf)/<insert sexy supernatural creature here> love interest. I know I'm overgeneralizing here, but the fact that most of them have terrible covers/blurbs trying to appeal to that crowd aren't helping much either.
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Wolpertinger posted:I really need to read more urban fantasy with a female main character. I can handle female protagonists easily in any genre but urban fantasy, but I find myself shying away from them in urban fantasy after being burned by too many novels that devolve into irritating paranormal romances where way too much of the novel revolves around the main character flirting/sleeping with the hot vampire/werewolf (bonus points if he's an alpha werewolf)/<insert sexy supernatural creature here> love interest. I know I'm overgeneralizing here, but the fact that most of them have terrible covers/blurbs trying to appeal to that crowd aren't helping much either. This is my cue, I suppose, to talk up the Greywalker series by Kat Richardson again. Which basically has none of that. There's romance in the books, but it's hardly the focus, and the protagonist's boyfriend for much of the series is anything but a super-sexy alpha werewolf/vampire/whatever. Most of the relationships between characters in the series are refreshingly down-to-earth (even if the characters themselves are anything but) in a way you rarely see in this sort of fiction. Also, the covers are pretty awesome, and feel more like they're trying to appeal to the Philip Marlowe crowd than anything else.
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docbeard posted:This is my cue, I suppose, to talk up the Greywalker series by Kat Richardson again. Which basically has none of that. There's romance in the books, but it's hardly the focus, and the protagonist's boyfriend for much of the series is anything but a super-sexy alpha werewolf/vampire/whatever. Most of the relationships between characters in the series are refreshingly down-to-earth (even if the characters themselves are anything but) in a way you rarely see in this sort of fiction. I'm currently reading the 6th Greywalker book and I support this man's statement.
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docbeard posted:This is my cue, I suppose, to talk up the Greywalker series by Kat Richardson again. Which basically has none of that. There's romance in the books, but it's hardly the focus, and the protagonist's boyfriend for much of the series is anything but a super-sexy alpha werewolf/vampire/whatever. Most of the relationships between characters in the series are refreshingly down-to-earth (even if the characters themselves are anything but) in a way you rarely see in this sort of fiction. Yup, this is a good series to get into. I went through Amazon and found release dates for all the series I've been reading most of which have been recommended in this thread: March 5th Slashback: A Cal Leandros Novel (Cal and Niko) March 26th Extinction Machine (Joe Ledger #5) May 28th The Eighth Court Courts of the Feyre June 27 Broken Homes (Peter Grant #4) August 6th Possession: A Greywalker Novel and Warbound: Book Three of the Grimnoir Chronicles Unknown: Skin Job (Dresden)
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McBeth posted:Unknown: Skin Job (Dresden) Skin Game.
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pseudonordic posted:I'm currently reading the 6th Greywalker book and I support this man's statement. I have read all the Greywalker books and I, too, support the statement. The main character is a pretty great protagonist and the side characters are all very interesting. My favorite is definitely Carlos.
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Can we get a general plot summary on the Greywalker series? Just so we know what we're getting into?
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Thunderfinger posted:Can we get a general plot summary on the Greywalker series? Just so we know what we're getting into? Female private eye dies for a few minutes before being revived. Wakes up and can see (and to an extent) manipulate the Grey, which is more or less the Nevernever. Gets tangled up with vampires and angry ghosts and a friendly witch. The first Greywalker book is a lot like the first few Dresden books. Lots of investigating, not a lot of magic. The Greywalker protagonist is not very powerful at all, either. She spends most of the book getting in over her head. A true noir staple, that. I can't speak for books 2+, but the first book is enjoyable, simple, and shows a lot of promise. I'll be picking up theo ther books for sure when I get back to wanting some urban fantasy that doesn't suck.
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Thunderfinger posted:Can we get a general plot summary on the Greywalker series? Just so we know what we're getting into? The protagonist, Harper Blaine, is a private investigator in Seattle who, after being briefly clinically dead for a few minutes, becomes capable of interacting with "the Grey", a sort of interdimensional other-space inhabited by ghosts and other supernatural beings and forces. This means, basically, that she can see and talk to ghosts (and be seen and talked to by them), and thus ends up being (often despite her wishes) their advocate among the living. Wackiness ensues. The first book is a bit of a mess, plotwise (though it's a much stronger debut than, say, Storm Front), but things get both tighter and more interesting as the series progresses, and Richardson is fantastic at evoking both people and places. She's clearly a local history geek, and it shows (in a favorable way). It's more down-to-earth than the Dresden books, even when it'd dealing with genuine fate-of-the-world stuff; the books remind me in tone of Ben Aaronovich's Peter Grant books in some ways (except not British).
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Wolpertinger posted:I really need to read more urban fantasy with a female main character. I can handle female protagonists easily in any genre but urban fantasy, but I find myself shying away from them in urban fantasy after being burned by too many novels that devolve into irritating paranormal romances where way too much of the novel revolves around the main character flirting/sleeping with the hot vampire/werewolf (bonus points if he's an alpha werewolf)/<insert sexy supernatural creature here> love interest. I know I'm overgeneralizing here, but the fact that most of them have terrible covers/blurbs trying to appeal to that crowd aren't helping much either. You'd naturally avoid the Briggs coyote books, but you'd be missing out. Her books are not much "romance" but have enough to permit the relationships to add to the personal development. Better take on the Fae, to me, than Dresden.
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docbeard posted:The protagonist, Harper Blaine, is a private investigator in Seattle who, after being briefly clinically dead for a few minutes, becomes capable of interacting with "the Grey", a sort of interdimensional other-space inhabited by ghosts and other supernatural beings and forces. This means, basically, that she can see and talk to ghosts (and be seen and talked to by them), and thus ends up being (often despite her wishes) their advocate among the living. *grumbles* I was going to get it for my Kindle, but UGH wtf is up with people charging as much for an e-book as they do for a paperback? At least it was on Paperback Swap, even if it means I won't get it right away.
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Zola posted:*grumbles* I was going to get it for my Kindle, but UGH wtf is up with people charging as much for an e-book as they do for a paperback? A paperback? Half the time they charge hardback prices, if you can get them at all. I just checked, and the first four Greywalker books aren't even available on kindle in the UK.
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Space Butler posted:A paperback? Half the time they charge hardback prices, if you can get them at all. I just checked, and the first four Greywalker books aren't even available on kindle in the UK. I think it's nuts. Why would I bother to buy the electronic edition that is subject to being removed from my kindle whenever Amazon might happen to feel like it when for the same price I can have a physical book that I can do what I want with? Of course, that's a personal peeve and doesn't really have any place in the Dresden Files discussion. If anyone wants to discuss it, we can take it to the chat thread. I now return you to the original topic... How about that title for the next book, "Skin Game?" It sounds like it ought to be a pulp noir novel, not Dresden Files. I wonder if the publisher will suggest another title.
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I like ereaders. But yeah prices can be a bitch. Kwyndig fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Feb 27, 2013 |
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Wait...what's amazon doing to people's e books? This is the first I've heard about this.
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