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thehappyprince posted:Yeah it was the 'Broad back into form' bit that I took issue with. As if it doesn't matter about what players are actually doing in matches because the favourites are just going to get picked anyway on the basis of what might happen if the stars align for them. It was just a silly Sky advert for the Ashes, it had Botham adding "with his bat" to the Broad comment.
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it's indicative of the whole selection process though i remember before 2009 or whatever year it was when the sky team were debating whether giles should be in the team and i was sat there thinking surely no one could be that foolish and then we found out that yes, yes they could
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tanglewood1420 posted:It was only really the 80s and 90s that England didn't have at least one quality spin bowler. Peter Such got 11 Test Caps. Ian Salisbury got 15 Test Caps. Those were harrowing days to be an England supporter.
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Feb 28, 2013 21:41
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AKA The good old days.
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Feb 28, 2013 21:42
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I kind of miss being completely poo poo tbh.
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Feb 28, 2013 23:20
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serious gaylord posted:I kind of miss being completely poo poo tbh. Soon, mate, soon. The Giles-Broad era is nearly upon us. Just need to find a way to get Cook out of the equation, the rest will take care of themselves.
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Mar 1, 2013 00:17
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I just looked up Ashley Giles and it turns out I had him confused with Darren Gough.
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Mar 1, 2013 00:30
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Well, you all seem to hate Giles and I remember Gough looking like a oval office so I just made that connection. I don't remember him at all. 
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Mister Chief posted:Well, you all seem to hate Giles and I remember Gough looking like a oval office so I just made that connection. I don't remember him at all. Personally I didn't mind him (in a "he's not very good, but he tries hard and he keeps an end quiet so we can rotate the quicks" sort of way) until 2006-ish when Monty Panesar burst onto the scene by being an actually good left-arm spinner - albeit one who couldn't bat or catch. Fletcher and Vaughan generally preferred to use Giles when they could (he was also Vaughan's best mate), much to the frustration of those who wanted to see Panesar in the side. Giles was eventually turfed out after the Adelaide 06/07 debacle, along with Geraint Jones. Darren Gough by contrast was pretty much England's best bowler of the 90s and early 00s (when he wasn't injured) and is generally highly respected.
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Mar 1, 2013 01:11
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Darren Gough Own Zone
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Remember that? Remember when Panesar was our leading wicket taker in the previous series and we dropped him for Giles because Giles could bat and field even though giles had only played 1 game because of injury and then Giles dropped Ponting on 30 odd and he went on and made a century and Giles scored 0 in that second innings? Ha ha ha funny old life
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Mar 1, 2013 01:18
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Gough is way worse than Giles, turns out he's a massive Tory. What a traitor.
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Mar 1, 2013 01:19
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It's not like that's uncommon. Loads of cricketers went to public school and are Tory cunts.
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Mar 1, 2013 01:20
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Darren Gough is common as gently caress though
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Mar 1, 2013 01:22
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Peer pressure is a terrible thing.
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Mar 1, 2013 01:22
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I don't have a problem with cricketers being Tories. Common as muck Barnsley people I do though.
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Mar 1, 2013 01:25
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Isn't Strauss literally being groomed to become a Tory MP?
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Someone told me that Adam Gilchrist was pretty far left. I loved the man already but if thats true then hes one of my idols.
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I don't respect anyone who isn't an anarchist tbh
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356469/Cash-internships-Tory-backers-pay-2k-time-buy-children-work-experience.html#ixzz2MFCiHSk4 quote:£25,000 for a golf round with Andrew Strauss
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Mar 1, 2013 01:41
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It was nice of him to take his mum out with him. 
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Mar 1, 2013 01:54
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Strauss is a Home Counties boy. He lives in Chalfont St Giles (same place Nick Clegg was born) and used to play for Gerrards Cross. As someone whos lived just on the outskirts of Buckinghamshire for most of his life, I'd be shocked if he didn't turn out to be a Tory.
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Mar 1, 2013 01:54
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Plus born in South Africa and his dad worked for BP or something like that
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Mister Chief posted:It was nice of him to take his mum out with him. He looks like he put on at least 10kg since his retirement. That's a bit sad, even if he is a Tory poo poo.
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Mar 1, 2013 03:59
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Unimpressed posted:He looks like he put on at least 10kg since his retirement. That's a bit sad, even if he is a Tory poo poo. That photo is from 2011 at the latest...
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The Australian top order besides Clarke hasn't scored a century since the South African Series. Shane Watson hasn't scored a century since July 2010 and one of his two centuries was scored under suspect circumstances. (Pakistan performance in 2009 was dodgy to say the least. He was also dropped on 99 was he not ?) His batting average is 39 and his statistics under Clarke are: 13 tests, 24 innings an average of 27 and 4 50s. If he can't bowl he simply is not good enough at the moment. On top of all that he is terrible between the wickets, one of the most selfish batsmen of all time and is a bit of a nob.
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Mar 1, 2013 05:22
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Then drop him and replace him with one of them many other talented batsmen that Australia have waiting in the wings. Oh wait.
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He is 31 and injury prone. He is the worst performing batsman out of the top order. (Hughes is going past 50 slightly more often than Watson is). I would happily drop him for just about any half decent batsman in the country. In fact I just started my post to comment on how the other batsmen aren't pulling their weight but it turned into an anti Watson post. That is how much I hate Shane Watson at the moment. He needs to score some serious runs or gently caress off into the night.
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Burn Down Canberra posted:He is 31 and injury prone. He is the worst performing batsman out of the top order. (Hughes is going past 50 slightly more often than Watson is). I would happily drop him for just about any half decent batsman in the country. In fact I just started my post to comment on how the other batsmen aren't pulling their weight but it turned into an anti Watson post. That is how much I hate Shane Watson at the moment. But his form in the T20 series cant be ignored 
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Mickey Arthur on Mitchell Starc (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...0-1226588491499)quote:“For Starcy, it was his first time in these conditions as well so he would have grown massively from this Test," Arthur said. Is it a requirement to talk like a dumb high-schooler when you're a cricket coach? It's as if he was only given 20 different words to play with. Anyway, glad to see they're not dropping Pattinson, though if I were an Aussie supporter I'd be worried when Shane Watson is evaluating the pitch and declaring it to be like the Gabba, he's not the sharpest brain (cricket or otherwise) in that particular brain trust.
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Mister Chief posted:Then drop him and replace him with one of them many other talented batsmen that Australia have waiting in the wings. Oh wait. MiJo
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Gorn Myson posted:Someone told me that Adam Gilchrist was pretty far left. I loved the man already but if thats true then hes one of my idols. I'd heard something similar. There wuld have been some interesting conversations in the dressing room with McGrath currently being groomed to represent the Nationals and Hayden being a born again happy clapper.
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Oh and I heard that the reason O'Keefe isn't getting picked is because he's on a blacklist for telling a few people (Clarke, some CA folk) where to go.
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4liters posted:Oh and I heard that the reason O'Keefe isn't getting picked is because he's on a blacklist for telling a few people (Clarke, some CA folk) where to go. Wouldnt surprise me. This Aussie team reminds me of the horrible days of Vaughan's buddy club, where if your face didnt fit you werent going to get in, regardless of ability.
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serious gaylord posted:Wouldnt surprise me. This Aussie team reminds me of the horrible days of Vaughan's buddy club, where if your face didnt fit you werent going to get in, regardless of ability. Gotta say I'm getting a bit worried about Clarke's off field behavior. What I read about O'Keefe and Clarke as about as much credibility as the stuff about Clarke cracking the shits at Hussey's retirement pissup (that is to say, they're just rumours), but the more things like this come out the more I worry that he'll cause some major falling out between key players at some stage. I mean he's a top batsman and all, but if he's an unlikable antisocial shithead with poor leadership skills maybe someone else needs to be skipper.
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4liters posted:Gotta say I'm getting a bit worried about Clarke's off field behavior. What I read about O'Keefe and Clarke as about as much credibility as the stuff about Clarke cracking the shits at Hussey's retirement pissup (that is to say, they're just rumours), but the more things like this come out the more I worry that he'll cause some major falling out between key players at some stage. I mean he's a top batsman and all, but if he's an unlikable antisocial shithead with poor leadership skills maybe someone else needs to be skipper. True, but if he throws his dummy out the pram and retires from International cricket because he's not captain you have zero world class players left in your team.
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serious gaylord posted:True, but if he throws his dummy out the pram and retires from International cricket because he's not captain you have zero world class players left in your team.  
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