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Leperflesh posted:Really you're never going to do this because it turns out that dealing with human poo poo on a daily basis is a disgusting job that people get paid a pretty decent wage to do so that you don't have to, Sup sewer inspection homies!
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Yay free t-shirt! Thanks, friend!
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Leperflesh posted:dung from herbivores is good and dung from omnivores is terrible, which is why people don't fertilize their crops with pig manure even though we've got plenty of that nasty stuff to go around. But what if Tuyop becomes a vegan?
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Even if you don't eat meat, there are enough nasties in human feces that you shouldn't be loving around with the stuff for fun and marginal profits. Remember swap.avi :brazil:
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Feb 28, 2013 02:25
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I'm pretty sure, from what I've read so far, that using human waste as fertilizer is this simple:
I'm not talking about taking a big steaming dump onto some tomato plants and chucking some soil onto it like a cat, microorganisms in the compost pile neutralize any pathogens in the waste through heat and competition. If you leave the pile to "cure" for a whole season after the decomposition is complete, it is literally impossible for any of the nasties from the poo poo itself to survive. You still wouldn't want to eat the compost itself, because it's full of amoebas and nematodes and a bunch of fungus and stuff, but plants love it and it's safe.
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Feb 28, 2013 02:46
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Sounds like you don't need $50 worth of books then! Seriously though, you have *the internet* at your fingertips. Why waste $50 on nonfiction books about making GBS threads in a bucket? Look!: http://humanurehandbook.com/instructions.html From the guy whose book you want. For free. You need to get this pattern in control -- Getting an idea and wanting to drop a bunch of cash on it immediately.
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Feb 28, 2013 02:47
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Toeshoes one cup.
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Dusseldorf posted:Toeshoes one cup.  Seriously, tuyop? You're this excited about making GBS threads in a bucket? How expensive is regular manure? Surely the trade-off of funds spent offsets this.
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tuyop posted:I'm pretty sure, from what I've read so far, that using human waste as fertilizer is this simple: And just when I thought this had gone as low as it could go, Human excrement used as compost, I love these forums XD I mean effectively it's the same thing as animal manure, so why not, but what is the "cost" / benefit analysis here. and I suppose you would save water through not flushing *shudders*
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Feb 28, 2013 06:52
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making GBS threads in a bucket is one of his better ideas. I think we should let him have this one.
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Feb 28, 2013 07:01
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Hay it's a T-shirt! Thanks tuyop.
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Feb 28, 2013 07:19
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Tuyop, didn't you mention in another thread that you had stopped using soap to save money? If you start composting your own feces on top of that, you are really not going to smell too good. edit: tuyop posted:In the near future I want to go body soap free and stop using shampoo and body wash. Luigi's Discount Porn Bin fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Feb 28, 2013 |
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Feb 28, 2013 09:31
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tuyop posted:I'm pretty sure, from what I've read so far, that using human waste as fertilizer is this simple: The good news about this post is that you're engaged so if you try this, you don't need to worry about having anyone of the opposite sex over ever again. The bad news is that you probably do still have friends and you're never having them over ever again. The worse news is that you're still bipolar and I've just quoted the post so when you cycle back down you can't just pretend it never happened
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My family has used a slightly more sophisticated method for the toilet at the cottage for years now. It's really not gross at all. Also, I'm not going to get rich from recycling my own poop, it's just a way to live more sustainably. And it's an 11 dollar book. Really not going to break the bank here by spending 11 dollars in gift money on a book.
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A composting toilet wouldn't be too weird if you lived in a rural cottage somwhere, but don't you live in an apartment?
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tuyop posted:Also, I'm not going to get rich from recycling my own poop, it's just a way to live more sustainably. And it's an 11 dollar book. Really not going to break the bank here by spending 11 dollars in gift money on a book. 1)Treating windfalls as fun money, instead of treating it the same as the rest of your money. Getting a store-branded gift card limits your purchases a bit, but Amazon has a ton of stuff on it that you could get more use from than an $11 book about something you probably only think is a good idea because you're in a manic phase. You can buy food on amazon, for starters. $50 of grocery money(or garbage bag money, or soap money, or condom money, or whatever other necessities you can think of) is more useful than $50 of books on composting your own poo poo & whatever other useless/barely useful toys you want to buy. 2)Going "oh, it's not that much money, so it's not going to kill me to buy it" in regards to small purchases. Sure, an $11 book isn't that much money, but it adds up with all the other small purchases you make. Of course you're going to have to make some small purchases, but you still should take a moment to go "do I really need this?". Then you wait a week or two and see if you still think you need it(or even want it; this is extra important for you, given your manic phases). You may surprise yourself in how rarely you still want stuff if you give yourself time to get past the initial "so cool! I want it!" phase. If you talk yourself out of ten $11 poo poo-composting books this way, you just saved $110. Doesn't seem like such a small amount of money, now does it?
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tuyop, do you think that the 'literally hoarding your own poo poo' phase of your life that you're about to enter into might just be a little bit to do with your massive and poorly-treated bipolar mood shifts? Or maybe you're trying to strike it rich by turning into some kind of cargo-cult Howard Hughes.
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Thank you for offering those shirts to folks in the thread, that was very nice of you.
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What tuyop has forgotten is that, while normal toilet paper breaks down very easily (it's designed to do so), his special baby wipes he uses (instead of underwear, ugh) don't. You can't put them in your compost pile and hope for good compost. Also of course human poo poo breaks down just like all poo poo if you leave it in a pile of compost long enough, but that doesn't make it good compost. It also doesn't mean it won't stink to high heaven the whole time. But it doesn't matter because he's not going to follow through on this. Oh, he might spend money on special human composting shitbuckets and shitbucket liners and a fancy composter and some compost accellerator and of course his worms, I've no doubt a couple hundred bucks can get blown on this idiocy pretty quickly. But a month of dealing with shitbuckets is going to end this fad pretty quickly. The advent of indoor plumbing and the invention of the flushing toilet were major advances in the human standard of living, and despite his tough talk, I don't think Tuyop is really going to enjoy regressing towards a medieval lifestyle.
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tuyop posted:I'm pretty sure, from what I've read so far, that using human waste as fertilizer is this simple: At what point do you ever step back and think about the things you are considering. Seriously, making GBS threads and pissing in a bucket? Who is gonna clean this bucket everytime you need to empty it? How are you going to explain this to anyone that comes over? What about the SMELL? Do you have any idea how much waste the average human produces? Assuming it even works, what the hell are you going to do with that much "compost" material? Are you going to start buying sawdust and all that stuff that you need? What. The. gently caress. Have fun cleaning that when it inevitably spills in your house.
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Hey just wanted to say I found out about YNAB from this thread and I love it, so thanks for that tuyop. I don't care about the t-shirts but it was nice to post them.
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Guys, I'm really not in a manic phase right now. I've set up a tracking sheet for various feelings and behaviours that indicate manic stuff, and toeshoes has been on the lookout. For instance, I've found that when I'm manic I spend an average of $450 more in a month than normal. I also eat about 500 calories less food per day and work out for an extra two or three sessions per week. In terms of feeling, I don't feel like I need sleep, I don't feel like eating, and I drink a fuckton more coffee if it's available. None of those things have happened. I've felt really balanced all month. I've been eyeing the humanure handbook for awhile now, I read all that I could without actually buying the thing, and it's useful as a reference so  isn't really the best solution.asmallrabbit posted:At what point do you ever step back and think about the things you are considering. Seriously, making GBS threads and pissing in a bucket? Who is gonna clean this bucket everytime you need to empty it? How are you going to explain this to anyone that comes over? What about the SMELL? Do you have any idea how much waste the average human produces? Assuming it even works, what the hell are you going to do with that much "compost" material? Are you going to start buying sawdust and all that stuff that you need? What. The. gently caress. I don't know! That's why I bought the manual. But practically, this is quite a long way away. I want the manual so that we can start planning. We'll at least need a yard and a residence for a couple of years for it to make sense at all. Philosophically, the idea here is to minimize negative externalities. Disposing of your waste by flushing it "away" with two or three gallons of pure water only makes sense if you're insulated from the cost of whatever happens "away", it's actually a fantastically irrational and expensive operation that could be improved significantly. The same goes for garbage, food, fuel and all of the other products that enter and leave our lives. It would be cool to live in a completely contained, circular system for at least a little while. At this point in human history, it behooves us to move from our ridiculous, wasteful, linear system and try hard to be honest about living within our means so that we can emancipate ourselves from the addiction that we have on exterior inputs to produce a cheap facsimile of happiness that just poisons our relationships and planet. /buys a book from a vendor 2000 kilometers away.
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tuyop posted:Guys, I'm really not in a manic phase right now. I've set up a tracking sheet for various feelings and behaviours that indicate manic stuff, and toeshoes has been on the lookout. Welcome to Cult 101.
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tuyop posted:Guys, I'm really not in a manic phase right now. You're talking about composting your poo poo, man. And while I believe you mentioned something briefly about a septic problem, this is a terrible idea and you're practically waltzing with your shitbucket. You may not think you're manic, or hey, there's even a chance you really aren't manic right now, but drat dude. You sound it.
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I've never heard somebody this excited about a shitbucket, that's for sure.
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Chronojam posted:I've never heard somebody this excited about a shitbucket, that's for sure. Had a guy in his late 60s who worked in the datacenter where we had a bunch of servers. He got big into the whole earthworm composting, off-grid living (tent in the woods), and then moved on to humanure. His wife of 30 years left him, he turned into the biggest drunk, and ended up buying a harley and quitting his job and riding cross country with another dude. So basically, if you do this, you'll end up unemployed, broke, and gay.
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I feel like Tuyop is just taking an interest into making his lifestyle surround what matters to him. It's just incredibly different than what the normal people want to do with their lives.
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ToeShoes posted:I feel like Tuyop is just taking an interest into making his lifestyle surround what matters to him. It's just incredibly different than what the normal people want to do with their lives. So you're perfectly willing to live in a yurt in the frozen north, making GBS threads into a bucket? It's kinda interesting you don't seem to have any opinions on if you think things are a good idea, generally it's just a half-hearted defense of Tyuop's latest Manic Moment(TM).
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Hey, making GBS threads and pissing in a bucket in your house is a perfectly sane and logical thing to do. If you're on an episode of loving Hoarders. http://www.reverendawesome.com/2012/10/hoarders-shanna-and-lynda.html
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You, your house, and everything you own is going to end up smelling like poo poo.
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How is it that you're suddenly super fixated on sustainable living? Especially in really extreme ways? Giving up a car? Good idea. In Canada, when you plan to rely on biking in a place where it snows six months a year? When you've previously been so reliant on a car that you've racked up mileage far beyond the average driver? Maybe not so doable. Giving up soap, shampoo, and deodorant? Hydroponic farming in an apartment? Worm farming? A DIY tiny home from a guy with no construction experience? A yurt? And now a homemade cholera machine? None of this sounds manic at all. Very reasonable. How is any of this compatible with your desire to move to the furthest possible northern outpost to teach? Do you think it's sustainable to live in a city where all travel is by air and every single thing you need has to be flown in?
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DoctorTristan posted:I think Tuyop is more than capable of making poor decisions while not manic. But the mania makes them funny bad decisions which makes this thread worth posting in e: I'm pretty sure I made the first bipolar Internet diagnosis ITT so it's also good Internet cred validation Adar fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Mar 1, 2013 |
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Adar posted:But the mania makes them funny bad decisions which makes this thread worth posting in Oh, definitely - I'm just saying we should not automatically assume Tuyop is manic simply because he's doing things that any other person would find bizarre or repulsive. Also I'm pretty sure his mental health professional decided that his manic episodes were not clinically significant, so I think we should stop throwing the word 'bipolar' around so casually.
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DoctorTristan posted:Oh, definitely - I'm just saying we should not automatically assume Tuyop is manic simply because he's doing things that any other person would find bizarre or repulsive. So basically Tuyop isn't a mentalist going through some severe mood swings, hes just an idiot. A colossal, poo poo-hoarding idiot. e: Don't poo poo in a bucket Tuyop. Cheeze Kuyeh fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Mar 1, 2013 |
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ToeShoes posted:I feel like Tuyop is just taking an interest into making his lifestyle surround what matters to him. It's just incredibly different than what the normal people want to do with their lives. I want you to read that last sentence over to yourself repeatedly until it clicks that normal people don't do this (unless they have to). I get that you support your man and that's great. There's a point where you need to go "uh honey this isn't okay" and bring him back to reality. I'm not his psych or whatever, but suddenly deciding you have a huge desire to poo poo in a bucket forever and throw it on the tomatoes after it's composted is just kinda out there. Cheeze Kuyeh posted:e: Don't poo poo in a bucket Tuyop.
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tuyop, read this manual instead.
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DoctorTristan posted:Oh, definitely - I'm just saying we should not automatically assume Tuyop is manic simply because he's doing things that any other person would find bizarre or repulsive. Yeah but also, maybe he should tell his therapist he's considering using his own waste for lawn fertilizer. Then we'll see what not "medically significant."
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Really? Now you're considering using a bucket as a toilet? Grow the gently caress up! For fucks sake, stop making stupid decisions! That's why you're even in this mess. Do you know why we have indoor plumbing, or really any of the convenient things that you think people don't "need to use"? It's because a life without them is terrible! Just focus on not setting fire to all of your money. When you're fiscally responsible, then by all means do all this hosed up poo poo. But until then, stop doing and/or thinking about doing stupid things! I'm going to give you the best life advice I can think of for you: grow the gently caress up and stop thinking about
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