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We can dance We can dance Everybody, look at our hands: Three claws - dumb Got no thumb Trying to hold a rifle looks pants.
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I just got into reading the Star Wars novels. I started with the Han Trilogy, which I thought was pretty good. I was going to go straight into the thrawn, but decided to backtrack to the beginning with lost tribe of the sith. I'm only 2 chapters or so in and I'm not feeling it yet. Are there any books on my way up that I should be avoiding like the plague? Also, what the hell book is all the bug orgy I been reading about in? I've only read the last few pages of this thread.
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Feb 20, 2013 03:28
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If you want to read about the Sith, the RotS novelization encapsulates everything that is useful to know and interesting about them in a single book. Basically anything else to do with the Sith is some pointless, redundant, kindergarten garbage. Don't read it. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Feb 20, 2013 |
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Feb 20, 2013 04:04
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Healy posted:I just got into reading the Star Wars novels. I started with the Han Trilogy, which I thought was pretty good. I was going to go straight into the thrawn, but decided to backtrack to the beginning with lost tribe of the sith. I'm only 2 chapters or so in and I'm not feeling it yet. Are there any books on my way up that I should be avoiding like the plague? The Bug Orgy books are The Dark Nest Trilogy, they aren't worth reading.
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Feb 20, 2013 04:11
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api call girl posted:If you want to read about the Sith, the RotS novelization encapsulates everything that is useful to know and interesting about them in a single book. I kinda dug Darth Plagueis. v  v
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Feb 20, 2013 21:20
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api call girl posted:If you want to read about the Sith, the RotS novelization encapsulates everything that is useful to know and interesting about them in a single book. Wasn't the first Darth Bane book pretty good?
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Feb 20, 2013 22:28
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Arschlochkind posted:I kinda dug Darth Plagueis. v I liked it too. It seemed well researched and plotted.
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Feb 20, 2013 22:34
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Longbaugh01 posted:Wasn't the first Darth Bane book pretty good? No? I mean it wasn't quite as retarded as the second one, which I've summarized as "goes (Sith) hunting for (Sith) magical armor, puts on (Sith) armor, finds out (Sith) armor is (Sith) cursed, goes (Sith) hunting for (Sith) magical potion to (Sith) remove (Sith) cursed armor", but it was still pretty loving bad.
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Feb 20, 2013 23:21
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api call girl posted:No? I mean it wasn't quite as retarded as the second one, which I've summarized as "goes (Sith) hunting for (Sith) magical armor, puts on (Sith) armor, finds out (Sith) armor is (Sith) cursed, goes (Sith) hunting for (Sith) magical potion to (Sith) remove (Sith) cursed armor", but it was still pretty loving bad. Yeah I'm starting to remember some of the more awful parts of that first book. Like searching in temples for (Sith) lore or whatnot. It's too bad because that book had some solid ideas iirc. A "slave" born into hatred might be tropey, but not a bad basis for a new Sith Lord being subjugated by yet another form of aristocracy.
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Feb 21, 2013 02:13
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Sirak was basically yellow Darth Maul. I'm not sure why they needed to give Bane a rival in the academy when they could have used Githany for the same purpose.
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Feb 21, 2013 02:54
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One of the real weird things about the Darth Bane books is Karpyshyn took the time to construct a strawman of socialist Sith "utopia" then had the Randian ubermensch ultracompetitive Bane be completely superior to them in every way and also to the Jedi as well. What's his character arc? We're left to wonder. Then Bane wrecks the Brotherhood of the Sith and takes his Sith of Two or whatever and goes Galt.
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Feb 21, 2013 03:06
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Instead of giving us vignettes of Bane training Rain like Yoda and Luke, we're given essentially two big time jumps where Rain is first good but not as good as Bane and then is good and as good as Bane. Then she kills Bane? Or Bane takes her over? Whatever? We care?
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Feb 21, 2013 03:08
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Metal Loaf posted:Sirak was basically yellow Darth Maul. I'm not sure why they needed to give Bane a rival in the academy when they could have used Githany for the same purpose. Probably because Karpyshyn is a seriously bad author. I mean, I guess on a technical level he's decent but that's it, and plot-wise he does the most hackneyed, simplistic storylines and "characterization" possible. Even by EU standards. His books always come off to me as the closest to actual fan fiction rather than something done by an ostensible professional who supports himself by writing novels. Also he has a big problem in not understanding what it means to work in a shared universe, and as a result has a really transparent need to one-up and overwrite things and make sure everything gets tied back in to his pet characters. He's actually a lot like Traviss in that regard. On a side note having read his initial idea for what the ending of Mass Effect 3 was supposed to be, I have no idea why so many people gnashed their teeth over it not being the actual ending. Whatever you thought of the actual ending, Karpyshyn's idea for it was at least ten times stupider and less interactive (for want of a better word) than what we got.
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Feb 21, 2013 04:40
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Longbaugh01 posted:Like searching in temples for (Sith) lore or whatnot. Here's what's double-plus awful/stupid about this powerful (Sith) lore crap: If they were so powerful how come the Jedi beat them even back then? Besides the fact that Star Wars isn't about finding an armor of +2 saving throw vs. lightsabers and weapons of +3 vs. Jedi. Also literally (Sith) potions that turn you to the dark side. That's probably a worse idea than midi-chlorians. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Feb 21, 2013 |
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Feb 21, 2013 05:44
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api call girl posted:Also literally (Sith) potions that turn you to the dark side. That's probably a worse idea than midi-chlorians. Was this an author's euphemism for alcohol?
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Feb 21, 2013 06:02
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Longbaugh01 posted:Was this an author's euphemism for alcohol? No, it was Kevin J. Anderson (and Tom Veitch) because he didn't have space/time (or the writing ability, that of out of a paper sack variety) to fully sketch out the fall of Ulic Qel Droma. I only bring this retarded poo poo up because it's all part and parcel of the same group of Sith Lords and (Sith) lore that Bane is hellbent on digging up. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Feb 21, 2013 |
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Feb 21, 2013 06:30
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Casimir Radon posted:Oh the TWIST in Scoundrels isn't really that bad. I liked the book quite a bit. But I'm a sucker for Heist-stories.
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Feb 21, 2013 07:49
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Decius posted:I liked the book quite a bit. But I'm a sucker for Heist-stories.
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Feb 21, 2013 07:56
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Casimir Radon posted:I liked it a lot. But what I'm really itching for is for Zahn to write something bigger. The last five books he's written have all been good, but were wedged in between other established work. I'd like it if he wrote something "big" again. The worst side effect of this is Mara and Luke's interaction in Choices of One. They can't actually meet, because they meet for the first time in Heir to the Empire, but she sees a dude with a blue lightsaber off at the other end of a hangar bay, shouts advice at him, and goes about her day. Luke sees this hot redhead that saved his rear end from across the room, but never asks her name or tracks her down. Its dumb as hell. I like Zahn, but he needs to stop being cheeky like that.
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Feb 21, 2013 08:06
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jivjov posted:The worst side effect of this is Mara and Luke's interaction in Choices of One. They can't actually meet, because they meet for the first time in Heir to the Empire, but she sees a dude with a blue lightsaber off at the other end of a hangar bay, shouts advice at him, and goes about her day. Luke sees this hot redhead that saved his rear end from across the room, but never asks her name or tracks her down. Its dumb as hell. I like Zahn, but he needs to stop being cheeky like that. Additionally, the Han Solo Trilogy sets up for ESB by providing a reason for Han and Lando's relationship to be strained, and you're led to believe that they don't speak again until Han and Leia show up on Cloud City. Then some comic put them together in the interim, but apparently things don't go well and we're back to where we were. Then Zahn goes and puts them together again shortly after Yavin... It's all too crowded.
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Feb 21, 2013 09:05
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The problem is, so is the field after the Bantam-era EU. The huge multi-year over-arching storylines of NJO, LotF, FotJ, etc., plus that Legacy poo poo, have essentially drained all potential for exploration and discovery from that whole section of timeline. And thanks to Legacy, that's going to be a loving hundred year wasteland.
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Feb 21, 2013 09:11
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api call girl posted:The problem is, so is the field after the Bantam-era EU. The huge multi-year over-arching storylines of NJO, LotF, FotJ, etc., plus that Legacy poo poo, have essentially drained all potential for exploration and discovery from that whole section of timeline. And thanks to Legacy, that's going to be a loving hundred year wasteland. At least we have huge gaps after Episode III and the time between most of the OT movies left. I expect that will be the post reboot EU area.
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Feb 21, 2013 17:20
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api call girl posted:The problem is, so is the field after the Bantam-era EU. The huge multi-year over-arching storylines of NJO, LotF, FotJ, etc., plus that Legacy poo poo, have essentially drained all potential for exploration and discovery from that whole section of timeline. And thanks to Legacy, that's going to be a loving hundred year wasteland. The stuff that's set long before the movies is among the most interesting. For example, whatever the weaknesses of Tales Of the Jedi might have been, it was visually very interesting. It's disappointing that they couldn't retain this aesthetic in KOTOR, but that might have put off audiences who weren't familiar with the comics (which would probably be a majority of said audience), so it makes sense that they didn't.
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Feb 21, 2013 18:28
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I still like to think around a thousand years before KOTOR kicked off properly Star Wars EU was all weird Lord Of The Space Rings (space).
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Feb 21, 2013 18:31
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api call girl posted:No, it was Kevin J. Anderson (and Tom Veitch) because he didn't have space/time (or the writing ability, that of out of a paper sack variety) to fully sketch out the fall of Ulic Qel Droma. Just gonna say, I'm doing the a Let's Read of Tales of the Jedi right now... will be a while before the poison pops up (gotta do beast lords of Onderon first!), but it'll show!
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Feb 21, 2013 19:29
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SeanBeansShako posted:I still like to think around a thousand years before KOTOR kicked off properly Star Wars EU was all weird Lord Of The Space Rings (space). They already had that and it was called Jedi vs. Sith.
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Feb 21, 2013 20:52
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Metal Loaf posted:They already had that and it was called Jedi vs. Sith. FOOM FOOM FOOM
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Feb 21, 2013 21:16
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I like this video a lot, even if it has NOOOOOOO and a few weird edits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlMWYYzVngM Stuff like this somehow gives me a little hope the sequels will be amazing.
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Mar 3, 2013 22:23
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Looks like the 1313 video game is essentially cancelled, even if LucasArts isn't saying so outright: http://kotaku.com/5987674/the-strange-status-of-star-wars-1313-a-hot-game-with-an-uncertain-future The funny thing is, even though the cancellation was based on Disney pressure, it apparently didn't have to do with the content, but rather wanting to refocus everything on the sequel trilogy. Although I guess that means LucasArts isn't going to be putting anything out until 2015?
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Mar 3, 2013 23:01
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I was looking forward to that. drat. Would make sense though for LA to publish the game. What seriously was its last title?
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Mar 3, 2013 23:18
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SeanBeansShako posted:I was looking forward to that. drat. For stuff people care about, there's a Lego Star Wars game, TOR, and Force Unleashed II.
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Mar 3, 2013 23:36
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I think the last thing LucasArts actually developed was either Force Unleashed II or Lucidity, back in 2009. The last thing they published was Star Wars Kinect last year, which from what I heard is honestly probably the only thing worse than ending their publishing for the moment with TFU II.
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Mar 3, 2013 23:38
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Honestly? I was more of the mind that 1313 would end up like TFU. GREAT looking in scripted sequences, REALLY TERRIBLE in terms of some of the bullshit moves and slightly clunky controls. Also, For the Record, if there's interest I will continue my Let's Read of the Tales of the Jedi comics, but there just doesn't seem to be that much interest.
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Mar 4, 2013 05:29
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Calax posted:Also, For the Record, if there's interest I will continue my Let's Read of the Tales of the Jedi comics, but there just doesn't seem to be that much interest. I was enjoying reading it.
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Mar 4, 2013 08:16
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Look at this chart I found while I was looking for a new computer wallpaper on Google. It's a size comparison chart for the starships from some of the main science-fiction series; Star Wars, Star Trek,Battlestar Galactica, Babylon 5 and a few others.
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Mar 6, 2013 01:06
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That makes the Eclipse seem even MORE ludicrous.
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Mar 6, 2013 07:53
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You're wrong. The Eclipse isn't big enough! I need to write fan fiction involving bigger ships that carry wings of ISDs like they're fighters! Tarkin II Class Command Cruiser  Centaurian Class Ultra Star Destroyer More information, in the form of a forum mocking the concepts, can be found here. My favorite part was the parody fiction that one poster summed up this way: quote:[The ship] was divided into two parts with a thin, Nebulon-B esque middle section and someone here wrote a fanfic about what would "realistically" happen aboard the vessel (which was also gigantic). It was loving hilarious! Stuff like "We lost contact with the forward batteries three weeks ago. Due to turbolift breakdowns, any expeditions to the area will take months." and "We lost 17 ISDs in our formation when the ship made a sudden turn." They draw Freudian conclusions about the fan fiction author's mindsets, but I think a simpler explanation is them being a kid and thinking bigger equals cooler. William Bear fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Mar 6, 2013 |
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Mar 6, 2013 08:10
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The thing about the Executor-class is that there are a ton of sources all quoting different lengths, some as low as 8000m. The length in that chart isn't the "official" length given in the starwars.com databank, though. It's even bigger. 
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At least they didn't have Warhammer 40k in that chart. Then it'd just be a bunch of dots and a space hulk.
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