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Mar 5, 2013 22:06
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As long as he's not a vampire mage. That never, ever works out well.
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Mar 5, 2013 22:23
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I was rereading Strip 865, which points out how alarmingly dependent the party's plan for this Gate was on Durkon, and I noticed this line from Roy in the third-to-last panel: "A spellcaster who's banishing monsters is a spellcaster who's not killing us. I'll take two, thanks." Two of which kind of spellcaster, Roy? Should have been more specific there! http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0865.html
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Mar 5, 2013 22:31
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I wonder if a speed-vamp wakes with full hit points. It'd be funny if Belkar broke free of the Hold spell and Malack hadn't changed the last order he gave him (to attack Durkon) and Belkar finished Durkula off right away.
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Mar 5, 2013 22:52
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Ponsonby Britt posted:I was rereading Strip 865, which points out how alarmingly dependent the party's plan for this Gate was on Durkon "That's totally an Astral Deva, the horns are to show it was sent by Thor." 
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Mar 5, 2013 23:01
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Hmm, it's getting late and no ninth comic yet. I kind of hope he misses the deadline so we get another nine in a row at some point.
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Mar 6, 2013 02:40
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He's been posting them a bit more then 24 hours after each other. Following this pattern, the next comic should be out in a bit more then an hour.
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LightWarden posted:Speaking of weird rules, for those who are interested in such things, the Traditional Games forum has a thread for some of the weird game rule logic that rises up when you take these things way too seriously. LightWarden posted:There are lots of things you can use this maneuver for. Iron Heart Surge your way out of a debilitating spell, or maybe shake off a disease or poison. But what is an effect? Can you use Iron Heart Surge to end hunger or thirst? What about the infirmity of old age? Or poverty? neonchameleon posted:The depressing thing about Iron Heart Surge is that it might be able to end gravity by the rules as written but it can't end dazes or dominates because it takes an action to use. I love it, thank you for this link
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Mar 6, 2013 03:25
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Maybe Durkon can take a level of that to get the feat and Iron Heart Surge away his vampirism. Or if he likes being a Vampire he could just Iron Heart Surge away the sun as required.
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Mar 6, 2013 04:33
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greatn posted:Maybe Durkon can take a level of that to get the feat and Iron Heart Surge away his vampirism. Or if he likes being a Vampire he could just Iron Heart Surge away the sun as required. Unfortunately, Iron Heart Surge is a 4e ability, and OotS is stuck in 3.5 forever. 
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Mar 6, 2013 04:41
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ConfusedUs posted:Unfortunately, Iron Heart Surge is a 4e ability, and OotS is stuck in 3.5 forever. Actually it's originally from the 3.5 "Tome of Battle", which is the version they're referring to. Incidentally, the only time I can remember OOTS referencing ToB is one of the stories in "Snips, Snails and Dragon Tails" when someone asked Roy why he wasn't a warblade and he answered "My dad wouldn't pay for a PhD."
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Mar 6, 2013 04:45
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ConfusedUs posted:Unfortunately, Iron Heart Surge is a 4e ability, and OotS is stuck in 3.5 forever. LightWarden posted:
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Mar 6, 2013 04:49
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I stand corrected.
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Mar 6, 2013 04:58
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 #879: Running on Empty Well, that answers that question.
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Mar 6, 2013 06:13
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I'm sad that that's the 9th comic, I really enjoyed this being daily for a while.
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Mar 6, 2013 06:16
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Sefer posted:I'm sad that that's the 9th comic, I really enjoyed this being daily for a while. Is it wrong to have hoped Rich would have missed today so he would have to start the nine day run again?
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Mar 6, 2013 06:23
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It's okay Belkar, I feel the same way right after I donate blood too.
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Mar 6, 2013 06:23
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I for one am glad this comic run happened over this event. Waiting day to day was agonising enough but I feel like all the questions and speculation we've had have been answered.
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Mar 6, 2013 06:28
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Malack sure is a reasonable gentleman for Vampirelizardhitler.
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Mar 6, 2013 06:58
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spoon daddy posted:Is it wrong to have hoped Rich would have missed today so he would have to start the nine day run again? You do know that the reason Rich was able to do this was because he held comics back for a little bit though, right? This was a great time to do it as people wanted to know what would happen but I'm sure he'll take whatever measures are appropriate for other anticipation-heavy events.
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Mar 6, 2013 07:02
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Cliff Racer posted:You do know that the reason Rich was able to do this was because he held comics back for a little bit though, right? This was a great time to do it as people wanted to know what would happen but I'm sure he'll take whatever measures are appropriate for other anticipation-heavy events. He did slightly, but he was also unsure if he'd make the nine day run; he was still pushing making them whilst it was happening.
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Mar 6, 2013 07:07
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It's a pretty good sign that he could put any sort of constraint on his thumb holding out: I don't expect regular updates anytime soon, but I'm hopeful now his injury won't be a problem anymore.
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Mar 6, 2013 07:36
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Let's face it: the Order hasn't been this boned since they split the party. Durkon's worse than dead, Belkar's in lousy shape, V's gone bye-bye mentally, again, and that just leaves the core team at Roy, Haley and Elan. Who are the emotional and tactical core of the team, to be sure, but without their heavy-hitters...
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Mar 6, 2013 07:43
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Speedball posted:Let's face it: the Order hasn't been this boned since they split the party. Durkon's worse than dead, Belkar's in lousy shape, V's gone bye-bye mentally, again, and that just leaves the core team at Roy, Haley and Elan. Who are the emotional and tactical core of the team, to be sure, but without their heavy-hitters... Honestly, I'd say they're way more boned now than they were back then. They had a reasonable prospect of recovery and moving on with things, it was just gonna take some time, and their individual bits (and Roy's corpse) were at least semi-secure. Here, they're totally goddamn screwed.
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Speedball posted:Let's face it: the Order hasn't been this boned since they split the party. Durkon's worse than dead, Belkar's in lousy shape, V's gone bye-bye mentally, again, and that just leaves the core team at Roy, Haley and Elan. Who are the emotional and tactical core of the team, to be sure, but without their heavy-hitters... What we have here is a situation where about the only thing that could save them from the New and Improved Linear Guild would be the arrival of Xykon, Redcloak, and MitD.
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Mar 6, 2013 07:46
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I wonder if this gate has some kind of destruct method or mechanism as well in case of it falling into the wrong hands. (Also, I wonder if Dorukan and Lirian's rifts have gone nuts like Soon's has, or if that was a side effect of the way it was destroyed. Or some other reason. Xykon was feeding it people, right?) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Mar 6, 2013 |
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Mar 6, 2013 08:01
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Is there any chance Girard isn't actually dead and has some ridiculous backup plan in case one too many evil beings/high level casters start snooping around the place?
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Mar 6, 2013 08:03
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MikeJF posted:I wonder if this gate has some kind of destruct method or mechanism as well in case of them falling into the wrong hands.
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Mar 6, 2013 08:05
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jng2058 posted:What we have here is a situation where about the only thing that could save them from the New and Improved Linear Guild would be the arrival of Xykon, Redcloak, and MitD. I can see this resolving in a three way battle where the order is essentially batted aside so the big boys can fight it out and then have to try to get to the next gate. The likelihood of the story ending with their being another gate in play is slim but not impossible. SirDan3k fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Mar 6, 2013 |
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Mar 6, 2013 08:06
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SirDan3k posted:I can see this resolving in a three way battle where the order is essentially batted aside so the big boys can fight it out and then have to try to get to the next gate. The likelihood of the story ending with their being another gate in play is slim but not impossible. Agreed, but with what's left of the Order realizing they can't hold this Gate and going for a Gate demo instead. Possibly by mentioning Soon and letting Girard's self-destruct go off...since you know he's probably got one ready to take out any Sapphire Guard who manage to get all the way to the Gate.
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Mar 6, 2013 08:11
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I'm more and more convinced that Belkar is going to live. It's that old "He's changed so much that the Belkar the prophecy was about is already dead" theory. Look at him in this strip.
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Mar 6, 2013 08:29
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The OOTS is so hosed now...
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Vadun posted:Is there any chance Girard isn't actually dead and has some ridiculous backup plan in case one too many evil beings/high level casters start snooping around the place? Doubtful, even though he was 1/4 black dragon ancestry he still had the life expectancy of a normal human. Soon was already dead before the Order started their quest and Dorukan was a very old man during Start of Darkness, so the odds of the corpse in the sarcophagus not being Girard's would be pretty slim. Roy even pointed out that the teeth implied death by old age.
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TunaSpleen posted:Doubtful, even though he was 1/4 black dragon ancestry he still had the life expectancy of a normal human. Soon was already dead before the Order started their quest and Dorukan was a very old man during Start of Darkness, so the odds of the corpse in the sarcophagus not being Girard's would be pretty slim. Roy even pointed out that the teeth implied death by old age. Also, of course, the whole Familicide thing. That's pretty big too.
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But what if, hypothetically, Girard was some sort of sentient undead? (Not happening since he's chaotic good unless he got vamped by an albino legless lizard as well, but I digress) Would Familicide be able to target those who aren't technically alive? ...On second thought, I don't want a four-page derail about house ruled spells that was probably already done back when V first went nuts. I'm going to put myself in Burlew's position and assume that Girard is dead as a doornail and his only plan was to leave the place in the hands of his progeny, reasonably not expecting an epic spell to accidentally wipe out generations of kin instantaneously.
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SirDan3k posted:I can see this resolving in a three way battle where the order is essentially batted aside so the big boys can fight it out and then have to try to get to the next gate. The likelihood of the story ending with their being another gate in play is slim but not impossible. They absolutely have to go north to the dwarven lands, or at least Durkon does, as per the prophecy.
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Mar 6, 2013 09:18
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As long as Soon was constantly walking around with Death Ward activated he'd be fine!
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Mar 6, 2013 10:32
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I'm really curious as to how this will change Durkon's personality and views on things. Malack seems like a reasonable type with all cognitive functions seemingly intact for the most part, so sans caring about other people so much (although Malack cares about others(?)), I don't see how this would change Durkon's feelings about what needs to be done with regards to the gates/Xykon.
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Even with his Free Will reactivated he'll be under a forced alignment change to Evil, which will affect his personality. Right? I think this is one of those things where we won't know how Rich is going to interpret things until it happens. But yeah, he'll probably still be very much for saving the world. He does still live on it, after all.
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MikeJF posted:Even with his Free Will reactivated he'll be under a forced alignment change to Evil, which will affect his personality. Right?
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