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Cybernetic Vermin posted:thom holwerda over on osnews is as usual unintentionally funny at least he managed to avoid mentioning his love of unicorns for once
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Nomnom Cookie posted:how is h.264 piece of poo poo everyone uses it. it makes dvds smaller not sure if really dumb or intentional troll
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Mar 8, 2013 15:16
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this is so funny, google SWORE up and down that it was the ONLY patent free modern video codec for the web, and opera and Mozilla claimed that they were only going to support WebM because "lol gently caress the patent system, why should we spend money on something we give away for free?" now it turns out they are liable and might need to spend money on something they gave away for free? Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Mar 8, 2013 15:18
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see also: google spending $10 billion+ on motorola to put an end to the patent threat against android  in this context it is also good to remember that google is without competition the largest company ever built around a single patent (6,285,999)
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well, maybe vp9 won't be a piece of poo poo and also actually won't infringe on patents. i like the the idea of a good royalty free codec, but i'm also content if the current situation with h.264 gets repeated with hevc. everything using hevc codecs, but only commercial operations actually paying for it. i guess anyone encoding h.264 right now should pay some licensing fee, but i think mpeg-la has been p. chill about it and not even trying to go after people making pony videos and lets plays, not to mention pirates.
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Mar 8, 2013 15:56
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Wheany posted:welp, webm infringes h.264 patents after all: welp, good thing we stopped all work on theora, vp8's the only web codec we need right guys???
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Mar 8, 2013 16:15
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Wheany posted:welp, webm infringes h.264 patents after all: owned
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Mar 8, 2013 16:17
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i skipped 10 pages presumably including some great discussion about thai food or some poo poo pegancow what is ur opinion on dirac also what the gently caress is wavelet compression in non-sperg?
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Mar 8, 2013 16:47
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Wheany posted:welp, webm infringes h.264 patents after all: webm sucks because nothing hardware accelerates it
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Mar 8, 2013 16:53
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AtomD posted:i skipped 10 pages presumably including some great discussion about thai food or some poo poo as a mathematician i like wavelets since u can represent sharp corners with them (theoretically) as a person with eyes wavelet based image codecs just look blurrier maybe the eyeball really likes the DCT? idk Malcolm XML fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Mar 8, 2013 |
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Mar 8, 2013 16:55
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Install Gentoo posted:webm sucks because nothing hardware accelerates it well that and also it is worse in every way compared to the one true codec and now we have learned that it's not even free.
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Mar 8, 2013 17:09
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Wheany posted:well that and also it is worse in every way compared to the one true codec and now we have learned that it's not even free. yeah but if it had been hardware accelerated id be willing to just deal with that. instead its also slower and less compatible, on top of looking kind of rear end and not being as good on storage space
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Mar 8, 2013 17:33
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I wonder if google will try to keep it going or just pay the penalties and move on
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Mar 8, 2013 17:57
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There is spin both sides, Google is saying it is to prevent patent pooling to "threaten" the codec and corporate users, haters saying it is paying off the MPEG-LA with license fees. Both angles aren't quite right.
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Mar 8, 2013 18:31
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Wheany posted:welp, webm infringes h.264 patents after all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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Mar 8, 2013 22:49
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pagancow posted:not sure if really dumb or intentional troll thread title says h.264 is piece of poo poo but no one complains about it. its getting old i guess but thats it
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Mar 8, 2013 23:04
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Blackmagic camera update: it's a bundle of fun but lol at the workflow since it's 5 MB/frame in raw. You have to become the roundtrip master with Resolve and make edit proxies if you want to actually edit your stuff. Quality is amazing though and I can now laugh at every 'videographer' with a 5D because you are officially retarded if you buy one instead of a BMCC.
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Mar 8, 2013 23:08
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Install Gentoo posted:yeah but if it had been hardware accelerated id be willing to just deal with that. instead its also slower and less compatible, on top of looking kind of rear end and not being as good on storage space You know acceleration is coming. It'll probably become a requirement for chromebooks or androids sooner or later. And this deal isn't proof that vp8 infringes. Quite the opposite, since if the mpeg LA had vp8 dead to rights they would have simply litigated it to prove it and not bothered to settle.
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Mar 8, 2013 23:19
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acceleration is coming but it isnt on anything now, and we were supposed to have started getting vp8 hardware acceleration last year
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Mar 8, 2013 23:29
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pagancow posted:this is so funny, google SWORE up and down that it was the ONLY patent free modern video codec for the web, and opera and Mozilla claimed that they were only going to support WebM because "lol gently caress the patent system, why should we spend money on something we give away for free?" part of the google agreement was that google could sublicense to anyone they wanted which means this is less proof that webM infringes and more google paying protection money to prevent anyone large-or-small from being sued it would probably cost 100x as much as google paid to conclusively prove webM does not infringe, so hey
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Mar 9, 2013 01:02
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pagancow posted:Uncompressed bm video so raw fraps output of my post history
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AtomD posted:i skipped 10 pages presumably including some great discussion about thai food or some poo poo Never used Dirac wavelet compression is jpeg2000, and RED codec. its like math and poo poo.
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Mar 9, 2013 16:03
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:so raw fraps output of my post history Fraps is lossy and compressed.
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Mar 9, 2013 16:05
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pagancow posted:Fraps is lossy and compressed. i thought it had the option to output raw frames. i mean it uses its internal codec by default
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Mar 9, 2013 17:06
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Lossless rgb is 440mbps at 1920x1080 @29.976 fps It is not uncompressed 8bpc. I'm sure that 440mbps isn't enough to describe all frames.
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Mar 9, 2013 20:07
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huh, still uses the fraps codec. welp i just figured lossless would mean, you know, lossless
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Mar 9, 2013 20:53
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Don't get me wrong. Fraps is the game capture codec. It's just a misnomer to say lossless and then use some sort of dct/wavelet compression scheme that is locked to a bitrate instead of just trying to have a 100% quality and just use the bits you need to describe that frame.
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Mar 9, 2013 23:32
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look at dis scrub using 30.0 fps
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Mar 10, 2013 01:28
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30 / 29.97 is a pretty scrubby problem to have in the first place
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Mar 10, 2013 01:34
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like almost every single thing about video and TV is a lovely backwards compatibility hack I'm astounded we even broke compatibility with nipkow discs
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Mar 10, 2013 01:38
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youtube only supports 30fps and you half your disk space why not
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please dont play or record videogames
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Mar 10, 2013 02:07
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you need 29.97 for 48k audio sync
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pagancow posted:look at dis scrub using 30.0 fps youtube is 30 fps last i knew gently caress drop frame forever
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Mar 10, 2013 03:32
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pagancow posted:you need 29.97 for 48k audio sync yes, that nice even 1601.6 samples per frame
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Mar 10, 2013 03:52
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why does it not surprise me that you retards dont recognize a beautiful pd patch when you see it
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Mar 10, 2013 05:58
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When Youtube Asks "Your video is shaky, would you like to fix it?" this is why you say NO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTvUbrltie8
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I don't know why you guys complain about youtube video shake fix. it's really good. Just imagine how lovely it is when it isn't on. cant fix jello skew easily becuase lol cmos sensor.
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what are your feelings about the documentary Side By Side? I thought it was a cool look at film v digital keanu reeves has a poo poo voice for narration tho
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