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I finished Yarrick: Chains of Golgoltha today at lunch. My head almost exploded when I got the end of the story: Yarrick drat near destroys Ghazghkull's hulk and almost gets killed in the process. He wakes up in a Mad Dok's workshop to a victory procession of Orks cheering his awesomeness. Then Ghaz basically says "You and me - best bros!" and lets Yarrick fly off in a shuttle. The whole time, Yarrick is  The story, while not too bad, was completely worth it for the end. VV For what? VV berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Scoobi posted:drat that sounds awesome, but I kind of wish his Night Lords was his Gaunts Ghosts. The idea of a disheveled, scavenging warband trying to just make ends meet in the 41st millenium owns. That'd be pretty cool, yeah. Unfortunately ADB says he wants to concentrate on other legions, as with so much Night Lords stuff out already, it'd be beating a dead horse.
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Mar 5, 2013 21:56
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A story about Sergeant Thiel has been announced. But it's an audio drama. And Nick Kyme is writing it. Shame. Almost done with the first Grey Knights book. The Ordo Malleus must be very rich if it could afford to sacrifice all that equipment to do their work. Thankfully daemons aren't as common as aliens or heretics. Mindscrubbed personnel are also grimdark.
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Mar 6, 2013 01:57
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Scoobi posted:drat that sounds awesome, but I kind of wish his Night Lords was his Gaunts Ghosts. The idea of a disheveled, scavenging warband trying to just make ends meet in the 41st millenium owns. I loved the Night Lords but I think the story of that particular warband is finished. I'm sure we'll see cameos and short stories but I can't really imagine another book down the line. Given that it's ADB, I'd love to see his take on the Black Legion. It's probably the most bland and comically evil one out of all the current legions.
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Mar 6, 2013 02:30
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I am about at the point of declaring myself done with the WB omnibus. The question is, do I write a straight-forward review, or go for the gimmick of all four Chaos gods chiming in?
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berzerkmonkey posted:I finished Yarrick: Chains of Golgoltha today at lunch. My head almost exploded when I got the end of the story: My working theory is that a large part of Yarrick's success, toughness, and longevity is the Waugh in action. Orks think he is a tough and crafty old bastard who will give them a good fight, so his natural toughness and craftiness gets amplified by the belief. Scoobi posted:drat that sounds awesome, but I kind of wish his Night Lords was his Gaunts Ghosts. The idea of a disheveled, scavenging warband trying to just make ends meet in the 41st millenium owns. It's a solid idea, but I'm more than happy to see him take on the other legions. Look at what he did for the Word Bearers and the World Eaters. From sad little jokes to amazing. My only complaint is that this will take 15 years, and I can't sit down and read them all this weekend.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Then Ghaz basically says "You and me - best bros!"[/spoiler]
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Mar 6, 2013 04:45
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Schneider Heim posted:A story about Sergeant Thiel has been announced. But it's an audio drama. And Nick Kyme is writing it. Shame. It's commonly noted that human lives are one of the Imperium's cheapest (and thus most expendable) resources. Informs a lot of its military strategy.
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Mar 6, 2013 11:48
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Kegslayer posted:I loved the Night Lords but I think the story of that particular warband is finished. I'm sure we'll see cameos and short stories but I can't really imagine another book down the line. Same here. Black Legion is also the one with the most potential for epic evil shenanigans. Talos and his pals were space beggars trying to punch above their weight (with some degree of success!). The Black Legion is a vast war machine with a tragic past, a reformation of sorts, a charismatic ambitious leader and the whole galaxy as an enemy. Are the Word Bearers books any good, by the way? I'm a bit more interested in that legion after reading Lorgar and Argel Tal in Betrayer.
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Nope. Nooooope. Stay away. Boring rear end bolter porn.
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Sephyr posted:Are the Word Bearers books any good, by the way? I'm a bit more interested in that legion after reading Lorgar and Argel Tal in Betrayer. I just posted my review of the omnibus today over on my blog and on Amazon. Is it cool if I link it here? Or should I just copy-pasta it into a quote for all to enjoy without fiddling with extra links?
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BlueInkAlchemist posted:I just posted my review of the omnibus today over on my blog and on Amazon. Is it cool if I link it here? Or should I just copy-pasta it into a quote for all to enjoy without fiddling with extra links? I think either would be appreciated.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I think either would be appreciated. Best of both worlds, then. The link for all the details. The short version: quote:With all of the potential tension and rivalries between the Chaos gods, the inherent dichotomy of the nature of faith with the nature of perpetual warfare, and the colorful history of the Warhammer 40,000 universe, the Word Bearers Omnibus could have been an interesting work of licensed fiction. It could have cast the villains of many a tale in this setting as complex, diverse characters instead of just heretics to be gunned down. Instead, we get over 700 pages of pointless gore and meandering plot that goes nowhere and adds nothing to either the overall fabric of the universe or our lives. ... I could see followers of Khorne, especially, getting so pissed at its go-nowhere story and flat, dull characters that they start eating it.
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BlueInkAlchemist posted:...[the] Word Bearers Omnibus, a trio of Warhammer 40,000 novels collected into one bulky volume for easy shot-putting through the nearest window. 
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Kegslayer posted:Given that it's ADB, I'd love to see his take on the Black Legion. It's probably the most bland and comically evil one out of all the current legions. Then you'll be pleased to know that ADB is writing a book series about the Black Legion starting shortly after the death of Horus … ADB posted:After Blood & Fire, I’m starting The Talon of Horus, and I couldn’t be more psyched about it. Not much to say at this stage, except that the main character will be at the right hand of Abaddon through the fall of the Sons of Horus and the rise of the Black Legion, over the course of 10,000 years. Yeah, unless I get killed or banned from touching the IP, this series threatens to be a long one. If you’ve read Bernard Cornwell’s Warlord Chronicles (about “King” Arthur) or Steven Pressfield’s novels of Ancient Greece (Gates of Fire; Tides of War; The Afghan Campaign, etc.) then you’ll know the atmosphere. Speaking of Chaos Space Marine novels, have any of you read Ahriman: Exile by John French? The paperback is due out in July, but the ebook's been available since December. I read it last month and was absolutely floored by it, but it seems like the staggered ebook/physical release has done more harm than good in terms of generating interest in the novel: I can't find much in the way of discussion anywhere, which is a pity, as it may be my favorite BL novel of 2012 (certainly I preferred it to Pariah, which I expected to love).
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vannevar posted:Speaking of Chaos Space Marine novels, have any of you read Ahriman: Exile by John French? The paperback is due out in July, but the ebook's been available since December. I read it last month and was absolutely floored by it, but it seems like the staggered ebook/physical release has done more harm than good in terms of generating interest in the novel: I can't find much in the way of discussion anywhere, which is a pity, as it may be my favorite BL novel of 2012 (certainly I preferred it to Pariah, which I expected to love).
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I've been looking to read Ahriman: Exile for a while now. But also been wanting to read the Inquisitor Czevak book. So will likely just read one after the other. Just don't know what order to go in or even if it's worth it to do so since I don't know if either book deals with their meeting.
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I don't think there is any overlap - Czevak is Rob Sanders' character at the moment.
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Lead Psychiatry posted:I've been looking to read Ahriman: Exile for a while now. But also been wanting to read the Inquisitor Czevak book. So will likely just read one after the other. Just don't know what order to go in or even if it's worth it to do so since I don't know if either book deals with their meeting. I hadn't read Atlas Infernal when I picked up Exile … actually I still haven't, though I sort of meant to before getting to French's book just because Ahriman. I will say that chronology seems to imply that Ahriman: Exile is closer, temporally, to A Thousand Sons than Atlas Infernal, and having read ATS informed and enriched my reading of Exile substantially (but a friend who's only read Eisenhorn and sequels also read AE and found it supremely enjoyable). I'm not sure if Atlas will do the same, since it hasn't happened yet. berzerkmonkey posted:I don't think there is any overlap - Czevak is Rob Sanders' character at the moment.
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vannevar posted:I think it's just that Ahriman supposedly appears in that book, right? That was my principal reason for wanting to read it.
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So I just finished Gotrek & Felix: Curse of the Everliving, and honestly I feel like I was sold a bill of goods. It's no spoiler to tell you that neither Zacharias nor any Vampires show up. It's some chaos entity body-snatcher.
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It was expensive is what it was. I liked the ideas, but the constant litany of betrayals was stupid for a legion that is still extant. The good part was actually the story of a regular guy who survived. Ya know, until Chaos ate his brain. It did a good job of showing a ground level response to that kind of unrelenting horror. (Succumb until your resistance actually means something, then go to your grave laughing because the Emperor protects) I just read Planetkill and the Passing of Uhlgoth is really a story worth reading.
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Is Ahriman: Exile really a must-have? The only other John French I've read was his short story in Shadows of Treachery about the Imperial Fists, which was alright but nothing special.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Is Ahriman: Exile really a must-have? The only other John French I've read was his short story in Shadows of Treachery about the Imperial Fists, which was alright but nothing special. I've only read Eisenhorn and Ravenor before reading Exile, so your mileage may vary, but I enjoyed it quite a lot. I poked a lot of snarky criticism at the first two series in good fun while reading them, and the most I could object to in Exile was some sentences felt awkward. I think that happened all of three times. About a third of the way in, I decided I desperately wanted a 20-book series of Ahriman: Adventures in Space, and I figure any book that can make me want more before I've even finished it can't be doing too poorly. Also I pretty much couldn't put it down and devoured the whole book in two days flat. I kind of want to call it a more intimate story than Eis and Ravenor, though I can't exactly pin down why. There's definitely combat, but I think the focus is more on Ahriman character-wise. Personally I'd be like 'yeah, give it a read.' The prologue is up as a sample on the iBookstore, and probably elsewhere, if you'd like a look beforehand.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Is Ahriman: Exile really a must-have? The only other John French I've read was his short story in Shadows of Treachery about the Imperial Fists, which was alright but nothing special. It is a great read. Everything I read about Ahriman before hand, from "Thousand Suns" to "Battle of the Fang" to "Atlas Infernal" painted a picture of an arrogant, stereotypical chaos sorcerer. "Exile" was the first time I saw anything from Ahriman's point of view, and boy was it good. He has a huge guilt complex going on, and without giving anything away, really finds himself in a crappy spot that, while he may not wish to confront, is really forced to. Give it a read, you might actually feel for the guy. I think I am going to read it again.
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Impaired Casing posted:I think I am going to read it again. Also the way he writes in general. I'm disappointed he doesn't seem to have much of a web presence — Abnett and ADB aren't exactly fastidious about blog updates, but even "now and then" would be nice. Or maybe he does have a blog and I can't find it because he's harder to google.
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I picked up the first Gaunts Ghosts book today and I've gotten to the part where he gets the crystal and I'm not exactly floored by it, even by BL standards. The first book is the weakest of the lot I take it?
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The first and second book are really just finding their feet. The second book is actually a hell of a lot better being re-read after finishing the series. There's a lot of  moments in there with characters when you look back on them.
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Have any of you read The Masque of Vyle yet? I'm reluctant to spend £12 on what looks like a short book.
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Schizotek posted:I picked up the first Gaunts Ghosts book today and I've gotten to the part where he gets the crystal and I'm not exactly floored by it, even by BL standards. The first book is the weakest of the lot I take it? Well, you see, he has to introduce you to the characters and get you to like them before he can start killing them just to break your heart.  Any word on Master of Mankind yet? I'm looking forward to that
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After reading pretty much all the great and good 40k books of the list (and a lot of awful bolter porn), I've finished Fell Cargo and it's a really good adventures story, but it doesn't feel really warhammer-ish, it could have been based on any other world/universe and would be as good. Pirates are so 
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Congo Jack posted:After reading pretty much all the great and good 40k books of the list (and a lot of awful bolter porn), I've finished Fell Cargo and it's a really good adventures story, but it doesn't feel really warhammer-ish, it could have been based on any other world/universe and would be as good. That being said, you can do this with certain aspects of 40K as well - IG and stuff like the Shira Calpurnia novels is pretty generic. Some of the Eisenhorn stories border on generic Sci-Fi as well, though with Abnett setting the tone for a lot of 40K's feel, it's a little harder to make that claim.
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Eisenhorn had a very gothic Imperial feel to me, especially those scenes in Maxilla's ship. Ravenor was much more modern. The last Imperial I liked First and Only more than Ghostmaker, the latter of which was kind of a collection of short stories about each important character. First and Only is simple but I thought the resolutions were pretty clever, and it was never boring to read. Necropolis and the accompanying short story are amazing, though.
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So I was looking to pick up The Lost, preferably in ebook form, and while looking through the BL website I found you can get the softback for $15, or buy each of the 4 books at $8 a pop in ebook form... Wtf. This was going to be my first buy from them, but the whole thing has really put me off buying the eproducts. Am I able to get these ebooks from anywhere else? Or should I just pony up the $15+shipping (I will probably end up getting more than just the one book though, maybe with enough $$$ I'll get free shipping like what they do with the minis) and wait?
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Theparker posted:So I was looking to pick up The Lost, preferably in ebook form, and while looking through the BL website I found you can get the softback for $15, or buy each of the 4 books at $8 a pop in ebook form... Wtf. This was going to be my first buy from them, but the whole thing has really put me off buying the eproducts. Am I able to get these ebooks from anywhere else? Or should I just pony up the $15+shipping (I will probably end up getting more than just the one book though, maybe with enough $$$ I'll get free shipping like what they do with the minis) and wait? EDIT: You can get a used copy from Amazon for around $9 shipped - I'd go that route, personally.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Nope, the ebooks are only available from BL. And yes, their pricing structure sucks. As for free shipping, I don't think they even offer it, unless it's some holiday special (but you probably have to order $100 worth of books or something.) Thanks bud, I'll do that then
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