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Cameron posted:When said that, I was talking about job conditions, as well as pay. Hopefully this rings true. There's about a 75% percent chance I'll stay in Nonsan at my public school. The hours are good and the kids are well behaved. The only reason I'd leave is to move to a larger city for a different experience. However, I'm wondering if a job would be truly that easy to obtain for someone holding an ESL/TESOL teaching license with a year experience in Korea.
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Nowon is pretty "meh". Not a bad place to live. Just endless rows of Stalin Stacks. You're not going to have your mind blown with all the stuff you can go do, but if you're not a big partier, it should be fine. Apartments might be a little bit bigger. It's about as "middle class" as Seoul gets.
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Maxsmart posted:Hopefully this rings true. There's about a 75% percent chance I'll stay in Nonsan at my public school. The hours are good and the kids are well behaved. The only reason I'd leave is to move to a larger city for a different experience. However, I'm wondering if a job would be truly that easy to obtain for someone holding an ESL/TESOL teaching license with a year experience in Korea. Do you have any post-license experience in your home country? I imagine that would make you suitable for international schools. Although that's not really going to help you out if you're just looking for an easier job with fewer hours.
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Mar 8, 2013 10:59
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erobadapazzi posted:Although that's not really going to help you out if you're just looking for an easier job with fewer hours. Because no such job exists on this Earf.
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Mar 8, 2013 11:41
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So apparently you can be a "native teacher" if you move to America, live there 10 years, get citizenship and come back to Korea on an F4. Who knew? Whatever, shes just taking over the position of a Korean teacher that's getting married. No threat to my job, and I think Americas spoiled her. She's already complaining about having to work until 9 a few days a week. She actually plans to confront our boss about it. A "Korean" person... Confronting their boss about working a 7 hour day... In Korea...
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Mar 8, 2013 14:27
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Nah, I held a music license originally and those jobs are few and far between in the states. Again, I'm not looking for easier, my job is easy, but while I don't mind Nonsan, I wouldn't mind living in a larger city. Even a midsize city like Jinju, Jeonju,Yeosu, or Chuncheon would be fine. I'd like a more than 0% change to be able to meet someone for a date, and the foreigner population here is terrible.
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Mar 8, 2013 15:31
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If you want decent foreigners, honestly, go somewhere with a military base.
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Mar 8, 2013 15:42
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Cameron posted:When said that, I was talking about job conditions, as well as pay. Did you find that job through connections or on a posting? I have scoured tons of job postings over maybe 12 sites? Sent out 80 emails to see offers from recruiters and never come across anything like that. Also part time isn't possible for most of us because of visa issues and tutoring is flat out 'illegal'/forbidden in most cases. BrainDance posted:Trash...Whatever, not my problem. Except where it is because you are a resident of a tiny densely populated country that doesn't have a lot of place for trash and is resource deficient. If there are bins provided for you, you have no good excuse for not using them. Spiderjelly posted:Kant, I thought you were moving to glorious China? As much as I get sinus infections in Korea, I think China would destroy me. I'm still looking at Hong Kong, but timing is tough and I didn't have a good idea of how to do it until this last vacation. Also, I doubt I am harmonious enough. erobadapazzi posted:They won't fire you... No, but they can make it miserable for you and enforce every last part of the contract to your detriment. They may do this anyway, but when dealing with child-like adults, your rational argument of standing up for yourself or even the part where you want to change their mind about something in the best interest of the school and the kids is not always going to fly.
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Mar 8, 2013 15:56
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You're really overestimating me. This country is lucky they didnt have to deal with my latest toe fungus. The trash is fine.
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Mar 8, 2013 17:04
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BrainDance posted:You're really overestimating me. Because edits broken in the latest awful app.. You can just pay a Filipino to take care of your poo poo, it's like nothing. That's what I do.
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Mar 8, 2013 17:08
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BrainDance posted:If you want decent foreigners, honestly, go somewhere with a military base. This is the biggest lie about Korea I've ever seen.
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Mar 8, 2013 17:19
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BrainDance posted:Because edits broken in the latest awful app.. Most humans don't like living in a palace of filth until it gets so bad that you hire a cleaning lady and it fills 10 trash bags. But YMMV.
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Mar 8, 2013 17:24
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You really have no concept, I think I live in the Koreaboo capital of Korea. I just had dinner with several of these people and they spent an hour discussing why Kpop is the best kind of music in the world. When I suggested we don't have Korean next time we ate, I was shushed and told that when you're in Korea you should only eat Korean food, because it is the best tasting food here. These people creep me out.
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Mar 8, 2013 18:07
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Ugh. I've been fortunate enough to rarely encounter those sorts, and never have to be around them.
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Mar 8, 2013 18:11
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BrainDance posted:Because edits broken in the latest awful app.. First, are you using Awful Betamax? When Awful App broke down, I switched and it's been a-okay. second, I've thought about getting a cleaning lady, but I just can't justify a cost-benefit scenario where this is a rational decision. How much do you pay by the hour/room?
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Mar 8, 2013 18:28
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Kant: I found it on a job listing on Korea4Home. I cold called them and straight-up asked if the sponsored E-2 visas and they had no idea, because they had only ever hired F-2 visas before. I told them I'd do the legwork and all they would do it sign off on the documents and they'd be set. That was about all it took. I'm not saying that you're not looking hard enough, and I know you're in a tough spot consider you're really far out and in the boonies so in-person interviews are hard, but I wish that you could find a way to move up a little bit. You could always try Japan? You can make $3000 a month there teaching adults if you stake a claim on an apartment and solicit to the local Eikawas. It's a little less forgiving than Korea, but just a thought. Also, I never thought the real world would sound so hilarious as to say that making $36,000 a year would sound desireable. I used to think when I was younger that "real" adults made at least $50,000 dollars a year minimum.
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Mar 8, 2013 18:40
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AmbientParadox posted:First, are you using Awful Betamax? When Awful App broke down, I switched and it's been a-okay. Nah, I've been following it. The old versions are so broken replying doesn't even work. About military guys, they suck. But be honest, if you're in a place that's all English teachers they're probably all giant nerds. Military guys suck but they're better than the alternative. Easy solution here is just meet Korean people. Really, all foreigners kinda suck for the most part. I probably suck. About getting a maid, it's 10,000₩ an hour. I try to stay clean but I build up dust. Every 3 months I get a maid to take care of that poo poo. 20,000₩ while I hang out at a pc bang. If you guys don't wanna pay a few drinks change for that whatever, but they clean your apartment like it's new. I cant be bothered to move my couch and poo poo.
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Mar 8, 2013 19:47
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God I wish I could edit, but reading over everything here's a better reply. Maids are pretty much standard 10,000₩ an hour. No matter how many rooms. You all saw my epic wreck in Pohang (admit it that was funny) and she only charged 10,000₩ extra.... For that. But you gotta buy the trash bags, bleach, etc. You probably gotta carry that poo poo out too. She'll just dump it outside your apartment. I don't get why you guys are all living like cheap shits. Grand Fromage I get it, you got loans to pay. But some of us don't... Sorry guys a maid is worth playing videogames for some of us. Maybe just me, are you all in massive debt or what? It's 10 bucks...
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Mar 8, 2013 19:59
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Or you could do it yourself, which is a nice feeling and costs nothing?
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Mar 8, 2013 21:21
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The only time I hired a cleaning lady was when I was moving apartments, she cleaned my new and old apartments. 
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Mar 8, 2013 23:33
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BrainDance posted:I didn't even do that, because then if I ever got in trouble for it I couldn't do the ignorant foreigner thing. Our complex guards go through your trash bags. gently caress, that's embarrassing. My friend got a huge angry face teeth-sucking lecture about her bad trash behavior.
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Cameron posted:I'm not saying that you're not looking hard enough, and I know you're in a tough spot consider you're really far out and in the boonies so in-person interviews are hard, but I wish that you could find a way to move up a little bit.
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Arctic Baldwin posted:Or you could do it yourself, which is a nice feeling and costs nothing? Christ, this is the contact lenses all over again. Yes, you can, and that's great. You can cook you own food or go to a restaurant, build your own computer or buy a mac, etc. etc. You can do a whole lotta poo poo yourself, but I'd rather play videogames.
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Mar 9, 2013 04:42
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quote:You can do a whole lotta poo poo yourself, but I'd rather play videogames. My life motto
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drat, 10k an hour. Not bad to get the weekly scrubbing outta the way. On the base I have a lady come in to do light vacuuming, trash pick up, and tidying every weekday. The real value is that she does my laundry and injects 5 hours of free time into my week. Only costs 25usd every two weeks. Also military are the worst, most clueless people in korea. I know for they are my people.
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Mar 10, 2013 06:50
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You know, hiring a helper is not too bad if it's a once in a while thing. Goonsgiving would have been a lot easier hiring a helper to do all the cleaning, or someone to do all the prep work! Having Kant and friend spend 6 hours is ridiculous when the rest of us gets to go out and party.
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I'd be embarrassed hiring a maid and having her come and see the state I live in. Plus my cats wouldn't be all that impressed with some intruder cleaning things up.
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KirbyKhan posted:
Dude what is up with the military in 2013? First the subway harassment, then the BB gun, and now the knife thing. It's like the military personnel went full retard as a new years resolution.
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Mar 10, 2013 11:45
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AmbientParadox posted:Dude what is up with the military in 2013? First the subway harassment, then the BB gun, and now the knife thing. It's like the military personnel went full retard as a new years resolution. New rotations = new idiots.
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Uber-Cake posted:New rotations = new idiots. That doesnt really explain the recent trend of retardation. There have always been dumb new rotations, such as mine, but we never did anything to get shot by the fuzz.
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For several months I've been hearing rumors that there was a college in my town. I was fairly skeptical, since my location is so small that anyone in the college age range wouldn't go unnoticed, but this weekend I finally decided to find out for sure and investigate. Surprisingly, Naver does show a large university right next to Goryeong, about 15 minutes by bike from my apartment. So I went there, and indeed there is a large college campus. It's mostly hidden by the mountains around it, but is nearly the size of my Goryeong's downtown area nonetheless. Except the entire thing is abandoned, rusted and overgrown. The interiors are still fully furnished though, just heavily covered in dust. Awesome. A return trip with a camera will obviously be a must.
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KirbyKhan posted:That doesnt really explain the recent trend of retardation. There have always been dumb new rotations, such as mine, but we never did anything to get shot by the fuzz. Unintended reaction to subconscious fear of poo poo going down with NK?
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Toussaint Louverture posted:Unintended reaction to subconscious fear of poo poo going down with NK? I believe it is just a side effect of 18 year olds getting dumber these days. KIDS THESE DAYS 
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Toussaint Louverture posted:Unintended reaction to subconscious fear of poo poo going down with NK? Hahahaha, it's more likely the GI bars a cutting their vodka with rubbing alcohol cuz we cant tell the difference
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Gildiss posted:I believe it is just a side effect of 18 year olds getting dumber these days. KIDS THESE DAYS With their smart phones and their WiiUs and their bippity boppity boop beep bip!
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Bugblatter posted:For several months I've been hearing rumors that there was a college in my town. I was fairly skeptical, since my location is so small that anyone in the college age range wouldn't go unnoticed, but this weekend I finally decided to find out for sure and investigate. Surprisingly, Naver does show a large university right next to Goryeong, about 15 minutes by bike from my apartment. How YOU doin'?
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AmbientParadox posted:Dude what is up with the military in 2013? First the subway harassment, then the BB gun, and now the knife thing. It's like the military personnel went full retard as a new years resolution. In our defense, I'm pretty sure they were all Army (and the knife was a Korean-American contractor). The worst us AF have got up to is randomly handcuffing civilians.
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BrainDance posted:Christ, this is the contact lenses all over again. If you are going to ask questions, dont get so loving pissy when someone answers them. No, I am not in debt but I don't hire a maid because I don't want to.
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Bugblatter posted:For several months I've been hearing rumors that there was a college in my town. I was fairly skeptical, since my location is so small that anyone in the college age range wouldn't go unnoticed, but this weekend I finally decided to find out for sure and investigate. Surprisingly, Naver does show a large university right next to Goryeong, about 15 minutes by bike from my apartment. My town has an abandoned campus as well, some buildings are still used by the county though. Yang Yang must have an amazing national rep to keep getting these sweetheart construction gigs.
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I don't hire a maid because I'm terrified of all ajjumas. If they found out where I live... The school took all the troublemaker fifth graders and put them in one class. I have my own Wire season 4. If only I was allowed to forget the sylabus and go all amateur psychologist on them in broken English... 
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