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There's a special place in the Dumb Hall of Fame for people who pick fights with a guy as big as Show.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:There's a special place in the Dumb Hall of Fame for people who pick fights with a guy as big as Show. People used to pick fights with Andre as well.
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Mar 13, 2013 05:12
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"He may be seven feet tall, but I'm drunk." 
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Mar 13, 2013 07:44
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New Jack gives words of advice for young people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4y_i4WRUiw
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Mar 13, 2013 09:29
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Bocc Kob posted:"He may be seven feet tall, but I'm drunk." "Yeah, but he's seven feet tall, AND drunker than you."
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Mar 13, 2013 22:25
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I think it's hilarious that Goldberg Vs. Hogan is still brought up as the big "WCW was so desperate for ratings they gave away a money match", but WWE does this ALL THE TIME as is illustrated in that video.
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Mar 13, 2013 23:06
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LividLiquid posted:I think it's hilarious that Goldberg Vs. Hogan is still brought up as the big "WCW was so desperate for ratings they gave away a money match", but WWE does this ALL THE TIME as is illustrated in that video. Eric Bischoff coming to the WWE? Let's have him HUG VINCE MCMAHON.
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Mar 13, 2013 23:45
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Who would have paid money to see Eric Bischoff hug Vince McMahon?
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Mar 13, 2013 23:57
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Highspots posted a teaser for Kevin Steen and Davey Richards' new shoot, which is basically just Davey Richards reading tweets from someone who took over his Twitter account and pretends to be him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtfrTLu_Wig I completely agree by the way. Why CAN'T Beer Money just reunite?!
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Mar 14, 2013 00:21
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Bocc Kob posted:Who would have paid money to see Eric Bischoff hug Vince McMahon? No-one, but Bischoff vs McMahon would've been money.
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Mar 14, 2013 00:44
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LividLiquid posted:I think it's hilarious that Goldberg Vs. Hogan is still brought up as the big "WCW was so desperate for ratings they gave away a money match", but WWE does this ALL THE TIME as is illustrated in that video. Probably because the WWE has never put a match that would have been the 2nd biggest buyrate in company history on free TV with a 5 day build.
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Mar 14, 2013 00:47
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Bocc Kob posted:Who would have paid money to see Eric Bischoff hug Vince McMahon? I was at the raw where Bischoff debuted in wwe. So I guess I did.
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Mar 14, 2013 00:49
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MassRayPer posted:Probably because the WWE has never put a match that would have been the 2nd biggest buyrate in company history on free TV with a 5 day build. You just wait until next year when they out Brock vs Rock on a random Main Event taping. LOL
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Mar 14, 2013 01:44
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MassRayPer posted:Probably because the WWE has never put a match that would have been the 2nd biggest buyrate in company history on free TV with a 5 day build.
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Mar 14, 2013 01:54
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Botchamania 226 and 227. The MST3K and Charlie Brown jokes on the first one got me good. I laughed at the ending after seeing it coming within a second.
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Mar 14, 2013 02:00
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Jay 2K Winger posted:"Yeah, but he's seven feet tall, AND drunker than you." My favourite part of the whole video was seeing that Giant brought a bag lunch to the courtroom. At least that's what I'm assuming was in the paper bag and you're not telling me otherwise. Gavok posted:Botchamania 226 and 227. Holy crap the ending on 226. I cracked right up and had to explain the reason to my wife. Chinston Wurchill fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Mar 14, 2013 |
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Mar 14, 2013 02:31
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LividLiquid posted:No, but they did it with zero days' build and do it all the time. Rock and Austin Vs. the nWo. It's like... right back there. Oh, and Austin Vs. Brock. Neither of those matches would do those kind of buyrates, especially the nWo one. Both could main event PPVs, but neither was the kind of landmark match that Goldberg vs Hogan was. I mean god drat, Rock vs Hogan did a disappointing buyrate on PPV, the tag version wasn't some record setter, and Brock never drew as well as the WWE thought he would. Goldberg vs Hogan on Nitro is the equivalent of WWE giving away Rock vs Cena on PPV the week after football ended. If you want to call Rock a special attraction and not applicable, but Hogan vs Goldberg was in a way, once it was done you could never do it again: Hogan would never lose a rematch.
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Mar 14, 2013 03:42
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The first half of Botchamania 226 is really really weak. Are we really counting someone saying "literally" or Maffew merely assuming someone is about to corpse as botches?
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Mar 14, 2013 03:45
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Gaylord Plower posted:The first half of Botchamania 226 is really really weak. Are we really counting someone saying "literally" or Maffew merely assuming someone is about to corpse as botches? He's been doing that for years, counting "I could care less" and "Youmanga". Also, I never saw that Austin/Rock vs. nWo match as being a huge money burning deal. It was a complete nothing match that made sure to cheaply protect Hogan from any offense so Rock/Hogan could be fresh. If the match had more to it, it would have hurt their Wrestlemania showdown and if it was a PPV match as is, it would have been considered one of the biggest duds. Plus they kind of sped through the angle to get it done by Wrestlemania, so the only way it would have been able to work anywhere is if they really rushed it into No Way Out, which is where they started feuding with Austin and before Rock was part of the picture. On the other hand, they should have promoted the hell out of the match a week in advance. That was 11 years ago, so I can't remember if they did or not.
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Mar 14, 2013 04:06
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Gavok posted:He's been doing that for years, counting "I could care less" and "Youmanga". It's also one of those matches that didn't really have a spot on PPV. No Way Out did great just saying the nWo would be there, WM was next, and then WWE decided they had to get the title on Hogan immediately before he wore out his welcome. The booking would have to be completely rewritten to bring the nWo in a month earlier for it to even happen. But anyway, enough text, here's a video I showed tonight in the synchtube after Nitro, it's a forgotten Dungeon of Doom gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzljhO4-crM
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Mar 14, 2013 04:11
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MassRayPer posted:Neither of those matches would do those kind of buyrates, especially the nWo one. My entire point is that WCW did it one time, and they're the company everybody brings up for this. WWE does it all the time. They can't help themselves.
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Mar 14, 2013 05:37
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LividLiquid posted:If you don't think Austin/Rock vs. the nWo couldn't have led to one of the biggest buyrates the company ever did if they built it properly, then I don't even know what to say to you. Rock vs Hogan on its own couldn't, so why would a tag match? It's a dream tag, but dream tags rarely do noticeably more buys than dream singles matches. They gave away a PPV caliber match, but they at least did it trying to build up a PPV, which Goldberg vs Hogan did not do. Lesnar vs Austin is more comparable and that one comes up all the time, so I don't know why you would even bring that up now. Given how often the Austin was right discussion happens, it may come up more than Goldberg/Hogan these days, and Goldberg vs Hogan was a way bigger match. WCW's decision was a major landmark in the fall of a company. It was a sign of a company crumbling from within as it reached its greatest ratings and profitability heights. The two WWE matches are matches WWE maybe could have promoted better, but has chugged along being very profitable regardless. One decision was part of a spiral that killed a company, the other two were potholes. That's why Goldberg vs Hogan is talked about so much (even though Lesnar vs Austin comes up all the time too.)
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Mar 14, 2013 05:53
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WWE frequently sets fire to potential piles of money. Do you disagree with this?
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LividLiquid posted:WWE frequently sets fire to potential piles of money. Do you disagree with this? No, I just think it is silly to wonder why WCW gets laughed at for this stuff and to think WWE doesn't and one is much more egregious than the other.
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Mar 14, 2013 06:16
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The point is that anything remotely comparable that the WWF/E did was nowhere near as bad as Hogan/Goldberg because there was some reason to do it. The only thing I can think of that comes close is Austin/Undertaker in 99 that got a gigantic rating, but that's not even really that close because they already got a monster buyrate out of the two already.
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Mar 14, 2013 06:26
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MassRayPer posted:No, I just think it is silly to wonder why WCW gets laughed at for this stuff and to think WWE doesn't and one is much more egregious than the other. Even if Goldberg/Hogan was a worse business decision for one occasion, WWE has pissed away loads more by engaging in the practice so frequently.
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Mar 14, 2013 06:50
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WWE's problem isn't giving away matches, it's repeatedly destroying their future because of pettiness and politics
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Mar 14, 2013 06:53
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Nut Bunnies posted:WWE's problem isn't giving away matches, it's repeatedly destroying their future because of pettiness and politics Agreed. Though it's pretty funny that the WWE's strategy now to ensure they don't give away too much on TV is to repeat the same TV match week in and week out. Ryback vs. Cesaro... what Part are they on? XXVII?
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Mar 14, 2013 07:00
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LividLiquid posted:And I think it's silly that people often reference the one time WCW gave away a money match when WWE does it on a semi-monthly basis. I wasn't wondering anything. Sting vs Hogan first match ever. Sting vs Hogan Starrcade rematch. Sting vs Flair a million times First Flair vs Hogan rematch Goldberg vs Sting Hart vs Goldberg Hart vs Hogan Luger vs Hogan (so fans could pay to see Hogan win it back days later!) Those are just off the top of my head. Two of those matches are rematches of WCW's biggest buyrate to that point in time that would later be on PPV again and do disappointing numbers. One is the end of a year long title change that was done completely backwards. None of those matches even include the Russo era. I'm sure if I did some research I'd come up with about a dozen just from Russo's second run. To say that Goldberg vs Hogan was the one time WCW gave away a money match is such an astounding display of ignorance. If this is going to continue, it is better served in the WCW thread, but I can't even imagine why you would want to continue this.
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Mar 14, 2013 07:01
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MassRayPer posted:Hart vs Hogan Both companies blew this. Hogan to blame for both I'm pretty sure.
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Mar 14, 2013 07:04
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WWF never even got to blow it
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Mar 14, 2013 07:22
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xy4eac_rami-sebei-and-kassius-ohno-vs-luke-harper-and-erick-rowan-nxt-live-03-08-2013_sport#.UUJlVqPSW7w That unmasked El Generico match.
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Mar 15, 2013 01:59
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Holy poo poo, apparently the Stone Cold v. CM Punk videogame feud goes back to WWE All Stars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F6PuzP8tBo
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Mar 15, 2013 02:43
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Just throwing it out there that Act Yasukawa owns even for being pretty green. I love that she was getting cheered over the promotion's biggest star. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdjW2kYp7Z4
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Mar 16, 2013 03:12
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Suben posted:Just throwing it out there that Act Yasukawa owns even for being pretty green. I love that she was getting cheered over the promotion's biggest star. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xx...rt#.UUP_-xyHuSo She goes to hug Kashima, who immediately pushes her off and Kashima goes to celebrate with N*T
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Mar 16, 2013 06:16
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There's a bit from the 12/24 Korakuen Hall show where Kashima starts doing the LCO/johshi heel spot on the ropes (where they shove them through the top/middle and then mockingly place their foot on the opponent's face), Act comes over to join her and Kashima just walks off. Then at the end of the match Kashima eats the pin and shoves Act leaving her hanging upside down over the ropes and yelling. If/when they turn her (which they should; Act, Yoshiko, and Kairi Hojo are who they should be building around for the future and Act has too much fan support to stay heel) that should probably be her first feud.
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Mar 16, 2013 09:23
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Happy Austin 3:16 day PSP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhTHlia1NXE
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BillyMays posted:Happy Austin 3:16 day PSP. It's 3/16/13, so this seems like a fitting video. What a squash for something that would have once been a smark dream match.
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Mar 16, 2013 19:49
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Gavok posted:It's 3/16/13, so this seems like a fitting video. This REALLY bugged me at the time, because right before it, Taz cut a terrific promo about how now that he had nothing left to lose now that he'd been tossed out of the Alliance, and that made him more dangerous. Then Austin beat him in less time than it took to type this post. Everybody talks about how WCW got buried in the Invasion, which is true, but it didn't really do ECW any favours, either.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:This REALLY bugged me at the time, because right before it, Taz cut a terrific promo about how now that he had nothing left to lose now that he'd been tossed out of the Alliance, and that made him more dangerous. Then Austin beat him in less time than it took to type this post. Everybody talks about how WCW got buried in the Invasion, which is true, but it didn't really do ECW any favours, either. I'm ok with this one though because Taz is an rear end who deserves to get buried.
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