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Scuff? Time to streetfighter it out! May I offer some attractive headlight options?
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ReelBigLizard posted:
That's why this forum always says to get a 250 
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Feb 23, 2013 19:11
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Had my First Crash™ a few hours ago. About a mile from my house, I went through a turn a little faster than usual. My tires were still cold, but I would've been fine had I not gone so quickly through it. Luckily for me, it was a no-frills lowside; I slid for maybe 20 feet, tumbled once, and then took the walk to shame to my bike, which managed to pop itself up on the median. The turn lane that I crashed right next to was full of gawkers, and people were hopping out and asking if I was all right before I even finished getting up. I bumped my shoulder and hosed up my nice Marmot windbreaker, but goddamn does leather do its job well. My pants had a little scuffing on the side, jacket has a half-dollar sized scuff, and one boot and one glove are kind of dirtied, but everything held up really well. Luckily for me, there was a cop where that blue rectangle is, and he saw the whole thing. He cleared a space for me in traffic, made sure I was cool, and helped me right my bike. He even knew his poo poo about bikes, for he was talking about how good 250s are, and then told the other officers that showed up that I "washed out on cold tires and gravel." No report or anything else necessary, and he was on his way. All in all, my shoulder will be a little sore, I'm out a windbreaker, and I need a new handlebar, footpeg, and blinker, but otherwise I'm all good. Slow the gently caress down and wear your gear people.
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Mar 4, 2013 03:29
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Glad you're alright, sounds like things went as well as they could have given the circumstance.
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Mar 4, 2013 03:33
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Yeah, no kidding. There wasn't even time for panic before I was down. One second I was turning, the next I had already slid and gotten up thinking "Welp, that was a crash."
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Mar 4, 2013 04:46
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AncientTV posted:Yeah, no kidding. There wasn't even time for panic before I was down. One second I was turning, the next I had already slid and gotten up thinking "Welp, that was a crash." Yeah it's kind of incredible. For me it was when I hit the ground, "I just ate poo poo", then up and out of the street.
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Mar 4, 2013 04:54
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Glad you're alright TV. I found it kind of funny when I went down that I was too busy watching my bike slide away thinking "gently caress this is going to be expensive to fix!" to worry about myself!
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Mar 4, 2013 14:39
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Thanks, and same here. When my bike stopped, I saw that It was leaking gas and immediately tried to go pick it up, and at least 4 people were telling me to just leave it. All I could think was that the gas tank's paintjob was already hosed up enough I can see where the post-crash adrenaline can mess with you though, I don't think I would've noticed had I seriously injured my shoulder or something. It hardly hurt then, but I can barely lift it today.
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Mar 4, 2013 15:13
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AncientTV posted:Thanks, and same here. When my bike stopped, I saw that It was leaking gas and immediately tried to go pick it up, and at least 4 people were telling me to just leave it. All I could think was that the gas tank's paintjob was already hosed up enough Oh yeah, this. I came into a gas station and some people were cutting a stoplight through it and nearly hit me. I locked the back by touching the brake on oily gas station concrete and the thing dumped. I didn't have to lay it down, I just did something stupid and hit the brake. So here's my bike, on its side, still running, and I can see gas POURING out of the carbs. I jam the kill switch and then lift the thing up. Not in the calm way with the lift-with-your legs thing. No, just heave the bitch up. Five hundred wet pounds up and over. I'd just dumped off the side onto my rear end and I could have landed on an angle, hip, back, shoulder. I wouldn't have known, I had to stop this motor from having ignition near gasoline, and get it upright NOW NOW NOW. I hurt the next day. All muscle. Gear does its job at 2mph, and adrenalin does its job at preventing you from noticing when you're overdoing it. Ibuprofen then got to do its job, and my parts store got to do its job of ordering two shift levers and a brake lever (so I have spares).
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Mar 5, 2013 12:27
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I've pretty much sorted everything on my bike now though I decided not to replace my scraped up brake lever. I'm using it a gentle reminder of what happens when I stop treating it with respect.
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Mar 5, 2013 12:48
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I managed to do this:     Had just finished working on it and all we can guess is we managed to gently caress up the throttle cable/get it smashed in such a way under the gas tank that when I went to head out it went from 10% to full open, zero to who knows what on cold tires, front end rips to the left and next thing I know I'm flying through the air and can hear the bike sliding across the ground still smacking the rev limiter for all it's worth. Bike while not totaled wasn't something I wanted to mess with, main damage is a eaten pulser cover, hosed plastics and bent break lever/right clip on/etc. Also somehow managed to rip the steering stabilizer out of the frame. Oh and it had no oil since that all drained after destroying the cover. I luckily got out without much more than some nasty bruising/swelling on my right shoulder/elbow and left knee also tweaked my left wrist a bit. After all that I still managed to sell it off for about half of what I originally paid for it. Of course all of my gear had to be replaced except for the boots.
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Mar 8, 2013 06:27
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I smell a ratbike.
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Mar 8, 2013 07:04
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Muffler made with Wonder Woman jet technology.
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Mar 9, 2013 07:44
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Goddamit, day one of bike ownership and I've already hosed it up. So pissed at myself. I didn't even make it a mile from the house. I was making an easy left hander out of my neighborhood onto a main roadway. Traffic was clear, so I pulled away from the stop. For whatever reason, I wasn't turning enough and I saw I wasn't making the turn. I panicked and focused on the approaching curb instead of making the turn. Popped into the curb at maybe 15 mph, the bike flipped me off and we both landed on the sidewalk (thankfully out of traffic). After much swearing I righted the bike and gave it a look over. Nothing leaking, no major components bent or broken. Fired it back up and drove off. I drove around for about 20 minutes before I went back home. Final damages: broken windshield and bent mounts, bent and scratched right side signals, scratched up the previously pristine front fender, small dent in the tank, small crack in the headlight, missing one signal visor, mangled headlight visor. I was wearing a Tourmaster jacket, some gloves, a full helmet and jeans. There's a scuff on the helmet visor, my ribs on my right side and my left shoulder are sore, and there's a small scuff on my right knee even though the jeans didn't tear. I'll be purchasing some overpants shortly. Pretty sure I did everything I wasn't supposed to. Didn't look where I was turning, fixated on one spot. So angry at myself. I drove the bike 18 miles to the house last night with no incident. I'll probably go back out tomorrow after work. What should I have done different? Edit: fixed pic, I hope vwman18 fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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Mar 15, 2013 01:01
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Put an "l" at the end of your image name (hQuy.jpg to hQuyl.jpg, example).
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Mar 15, 2013 01:07
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Geirskogul posted:Put an "l" at the end of your image name (hQuy.jpg to hQuyl.jpg, example). f;b
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Mar 15, 2013 01:08
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vwman18 posted:What should I have done different? Started on a bike that's smaller than a car and cheap to drop.
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Mar 15, 2013 01:56
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Have you taken the MSF course?
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Mar 15, 2013 05:18
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Snowdens Secret posted:Have you taken the MSF course?
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Mar 15, 2013 05:21
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At least read the guy's post history -- he has. He did it on a much smaller bike, though, so given that this crash happened as the results of a low-speed turning problem I would guess he wasn't used to the size and weight of the bike.
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Mar 15, 2013 05:24
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Yeah he did. Very new tho iirc from a earlier post. vwman, not much to tell you cause you know what happened really. Just know early on that the bike will always turn more, until you start scraping hard parts. Aside from that, when I have a "oh poo poo" moment like you did as you realized you weren't going to make the turn (tho you probably were, or were with a bit more lean, but that's another topic...), I try to direct my vision on the horizon and then take in all the hazards that are going on, whether it's a turn I'm about to blow, debris on the road, a turkey taking flight across the road, or whatever. By just directing and focusing my sight path at some obscure section of the horizon in the middle of my field of view I don't have to worry about target fixating, but I'm still able to see the other stuff out of the corner of my eye. Try practicing that next time you go out. Sagebrush posted:At least read the guy's post history -- he has. He did it on a much smaller bike, though, so given that this crash happened as the results of a low-speed turning problem I would guess he wasn't used to the size and weight of the bike. You need to read more too braj :p, it wasn't really the slow speed you're talking about but a classic target fixation from what I read. IMO the bike size isn't ideal for a new rider but honestly as far as American standards go it's not that bad. Easy power and not obscene weight. edit: also vwman, don't be afraid to hold the throttle steady and really slip the clutch when turning in those kind of situations. A lot of bikes can be twitchy and unsettling on the throttle and slow speed, and that can push you wide. Keeping the clutch in the friction zone helps you be smooth thru those. In general I'm constantly slipping the clutch when accelerating up to around 30 or 35, but almost always have it fully engaged when accelerating after that. (On a FZ6, 600 cc standard) I'd also suggest hitting up a parking lot for some of those MSF drills you did, but on your bike. That, and I've also found cemeteries to be good for new riders, since they tend to be deserted but have some turns and elevation in them. At least in this area. nsaP fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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Mar 15, 2013 05:29
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It sounds to me like he found himself in that speed range just above parking-lot between normal steering and countersteering. Giving it more gas through the turn may have helped.
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Mar 15, 2013 05:42
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Snowdens Secret posted:It sounds to me like he found himself in that speed range just above parking-lot between normal steering and countersteering. Giving it more gas through the turn may have helped. That's true. I deal with that problem by accelerating straight quickly and then counter steering it over and bypassing the normal steering section. I don't know if that would translate to a cruiser tho, no experience.
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Mar 15, 2013 05:44
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nsaP posted:You need to read more too braj :p, it wasn't really the slow speed you're talking about but a classic target fixation from what I read. That's what I read too, but he said that it started with this: quote:For whatever reason, I wasn't turning enough and I saw I wasn't making the turn. I panicked and focused on the approaching curb instead of making the turn. "Whatever reason" sounds like general unfamiliarity with low-speed handling, something that I'm assuming is easier on a smaller, lighter bike like the one he used at the MSF.
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Mar 15, 2013 05:46
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yeah you're right
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Mar 15, 2013 05:48
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sweet
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Mar 15, 2013 05:49
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Glad we cleared that up, I'm sure he'll benefit from your anal y sis.
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Mar 15, 2013 05:54
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So basically get more experience on a beginner friendly bike before you buy something new and big and heavy and expensive. May I be so bold as to suggest a used Ninja 250
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Mar 15, 2013 06:01
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nsaP posted:Glad we cleared that up, I'm sure he'll benefit from your anal y sis. I'm not your sis, bro t  t
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Mar 15, 2013 06:09
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A used bike, that weighs 550ish pounds, has 40 hp, that he got for $2200 (iirc) isn't a bad bike to start out on. He target fixated and hit the curb. It's a newbie mistake that everyone makes when they first start riding. See something in a corner OHSHIT! Most of us don't end up hitting the curb but some do. Practice in a parking lot, and just know that you're going to do these little things a lot when you're learning. All part of learning to ride. Also this: nsaP posted:Just know early on that the bike will always turn more, until you start scraping hard parts.
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Mar 15, 2013 06:43
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Truthfully that point between steering and countersteering loving sucks if you have no experience with it. I put maybe 800 miles a month on my bike and it's still pretty awkward. 
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Mar 15, 2013 08:19
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Vstar 650s are pretty small bikes and pretty universally considered to be beginner bikes. Brotha' just made a mistake - poo poo happens.
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Mar 15, 2013 17:18
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The good news is that you got your first crash out of the way. The shame will prevent you from dropping it again. I bought a brand new bike right after I got my license, and I dropped it on the third day from just general stupidity. Dropping a ten thousand dollar piece of machinery isn't a mistake you make twice. Either way, glad it was something minor and that your blood stayed on the inside.
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Mar 15, 2013 18:01
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I literally didn't make it out of the dealer parking lot
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Mar 15, 2013 18:11
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I got my lace stuck on my shifter and fell over since I'd never tried putting my right foot down infront of my house.
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Mar 15, 2013 18:42
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I had my first bike 45 seconds before I rode it straight into a fence... I was 5 though and it was just a 50.
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Mar 15, 2013 19:49
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I dropped mine in a low speed turn on my second mile of riding it. Point is, beginners drop bikes. It's normal. Don't beat yourself up over it.
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Mar 15, 2013 19:50
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Not all beginners go "oh noooooooooo" and then hit the curb at ten MPH, but I've seen it done before
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Mar 15, 2013 19:53
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Yeah like this guy http://lubbockonline.com/filed-online/2012-08-10/motorcycle-crash-burns-several-vehicles-dealership#.UUNulRxJP4s EDIT: or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQIpxtTUY00 Angryboot fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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On literally my first ride after getting the bike put together, maybe 90 seconds in, I completely forgot all the MSF taught me about clutch control and accelerated out of a u-turn way too fast, jumped the curb, and skidded out and fell over in a gravel parking lot.
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