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slowbeef posted:Yeah, if it's easily available on Amazon (i.e. not through a reseller who'll charge like crazy amounts), it's not cool to post. Sorry. Amazon.co.jp though -- this one -- which apparently is completely incompatible with my Amazon.com account that works on every other Amazon site.
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Amazon.co.jp though -- this one -- which apparently is completely incompatible with my Amazon.com account that works on every other Amazon site. I have ordered straight from Amazon.co.jp before with little trouble, but only once -- the second time I attempted to, they overcharged me and then said 'whoops your credit card's not compatible!!!' I never got my money back from it, and I had to order what I wanted at CDJapan (which is what I was trying to avoid since their price was higher at the time.) You'd probably have to use a middleman service, if you don't mind paying extra fees for it. Come to think of it, I'm kind of surprised the soundtrack isn't on CDJapan, considering almost everything else is (both games and several manga volumes are there, as well as a bunch of shirts and other toys.)
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Mar 15, 2013 15:37
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Amazon.co.jp though -- this one -- which apparently is completely incompatible with my Amazon.com account that works on every other Amazon site. Eh... I'll run it by the mod forum, but we usually only do exceptions for out-of-print stuff or resellers. Is it available anywhere else? Like Japanese iTunes and such?
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Mar 15, 2013 15:42
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slowbeef posted:Eh... I'll run it by the mod forum, but we usually only do exceptions for out-of-print stuff or resellers. Is it available anywhere else? Like Japanese iTunes and such? It's not on iTunes, but I never had a problem ordering from amazon.co.jp. They even allow you to change the site's interface to English.
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Mar 15, 2013 16:22
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So far this game has used a lot of the same music as the first game, are there enough new tracks to make the OST worthwhile?
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Mar 15, 2013 16:40
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Worth it for Monomi's theme alone, I'd say.
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Mar 15, 2013 16:43
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If not Amazon.jp, then CD-Japan or Kinokuniya. There are tons of ways to get import CDs nowadays; you just might have to deal with the price of importing.
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Mar 15, 2013 18:28
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Sorry about that, then. It won't happen again.
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Mar 15, 2013 18:59
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Kanfy posted:So far this game has used a lot of the same music as the first game, are there enough new tracks to make the OST worthwhile? I think it came up earlier in the thread that the OST in question is 3 discs covering both games.
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Mar 15, 2013 19:14
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Kinda sucks for those of us that bought the first one, then.
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Mar 15, 2013 19:25
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Alright, I can just wait for the end of the game to think of ordering the soundtrack. I don't want to spoil myself with track titles like I know was a thing in the original.
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Riches and hoards. Radian Angle fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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Mar 15, 2013 19:52
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What would be nice though is if there were a tracklist with the titles in English (without the  , of course). The problem with getting a Japanese copy is that all the titles are in Japanese, and while it's not essential it'd be nice to put them in a language I can actually read.I've looked but cannot seem to find any.
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I was curious to see how you guys were going to handle subtitles this time - best of luck, HelloWinter! I pray for your sanity when we get into some of the longer videos, it took me ages to subtitle the last trial of the first game.
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Bishop Rodan posted:What would be nice though is if there were a tracklist with the titles in English (without the VGMDB? I didn't look at the soundtracks themselves for spoiler concerns, but this site is pretty much the biggest game soundtrack database and they usually list the song titles in English.
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Yay! Trial phase was the best part of DR1, and it's somehow even better now! Mahiru's interjection was awesome, and the evidence bullets becoming EVIDENCE SWORDS was MAGICAL.  I like that most of the cast so far seems actively helpful and not dead weight being dragged along kicking and screaming by the protagonist. Well, Kuryuzuu and Saonji are mostly just being huge jerks, and Akane is a total meathead, and Ibuki is manic, but other than that, a pretty rational group. Well, and Hanamura's not being helpful, but that is because he's the killer.
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Spatula City posted:Yay! Trial phase was the best part of DR1, and it's somehow even better now! Mahiru's interjection was awesome, and the evidence bullets becoming EVIDENCE SWORDS was MAGICAL. I'm very pleased with the cast this time around. They seem all around smarter, but not just that. Their abilities actually seem to play more into the investigation and their character. Ibuki is strange, but far from useless. I mean, didn't she use her musician ears to identify voices? That's great. I don't know, the cast and their personalities seem to be a huge improvement. Not that I didn't like Leon and Mondo and the crew. But this guys are pretty awesome. E: Besides Mahiru is totally the killer, not Iron Goon Chef.
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I'm enjoying the new cast for SDR2 as well, despite how much I miss all our pals from the first game. With DR0, though, I find myself really disliking every new character more and more as they come. Really, I would rather have Hagakure the Book at this point. Written by Hagakure himself. "the adventurs of yasuhiro hagakure and frend chiken"
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Mar 16, 2013 04:47
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You can disable download links on Tindeck for the record. It's basically just a flash player for the music at that point. You'll need to manually disable every song though.
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Mar 16, 2013 04:54
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Policenaut posted:I didn't look at the soundtracks themselves for spoiler concerns, but this site is pretty much the biggest game soundtrack database and they usually list the song titles in English. Just to make things clear - some track names do indeed contain spoilers, and at least one of the tracks themselves is very spoilery too. The track list at amazon actually stars out the spoilers.
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orenronen posted:Just to make things clear - some track names do indeed contain spoilers, and at least one of the tracks themselves is very spoilery too. The track list at amazon actually stars out the spoilers. So you mean that the music itself is a spoiler? Huh. How does that come about?
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Mar 16, 2013 06:05
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I don't think you want to know, seeing as it's a spoiler.
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Maybe the lyrics are just "So-and-so is the mastermind" over and over.
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Mar 16, 2013 06:08
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yaoi prophet posted:Maybe the lyrics are just "So-and-so is the mastermind" over and over. Or maybe the character themes get remixed with Monobear's?
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Waffleman_ posted:I don't think you want to know, seeing as it's a spoiler. Well, no, of course I don't. I'm just trying to figure out how it works. I suppose it must be something along the line of what Gensuki said, but then again, I don't think there are character themes, anyway.
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Mar 16, 2013 06:15
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The first soundtrack had execution themes. The second probably does as well.
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4th Asclepiadean posted:So you mean that the music itself is a spoiler? Easily possible. If I recall it happened in the Deadly Premonition LP, where the combination of the title and the tone of the music made a plot twist pretty obvious.
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I'm 99% sure I'm right, so I'm spoilering my reasoning. I probably missed one or two details, but I think it more or less went down like this: What we have here is not one plot, but two: one failed, one successful. Nagito originally planned on killing someone by planting a knife underneath the table, causing the blackout, then grabbing the knife and doing the deed before anyone could figure out what was happening. The glow-in-the-dark tape was intended to make it easier for him to find it in pitch blackness. But the real culprit discovered the knife and timers while he was doing his own set-up work for the party, and he hatched a plan. He wouldn't have to consider himself a villain if he killed someone who was actually trying to murder someone else, right? Killing a killer is no sin. He'd be downright heroic for doing so, in fact! So he left the knife as it was and concocted his own plan. During set-up he discovered it was possible to get underneath the floorboards through a secret entryway in the bathroom. With the right implement, it would be easy for him to stab upwards through the floorboard and kill anyone who tried to take the knife. Such as, say, a skewer. The culprit locked the bathroom to make absolutely sure he could get in when he needed to; it would be a disaster if it was occupied at the critical moment! He then hid a skewer so he'd be able to get at it when he needed to, along with an extra tablecloth. He needed to use it as a tarp; the blood would drip directly down on top of him, marking him for sure unless he had something to shield him. Then he calmly awaited the fated moment. So, fast forward to the blackout. Nagito has hovered around the table where he planted the knife, waiting for his chance. The moment the lights go out he springs into action, pulling up the tablecloth so he can get at the knife. But he didn't plan for Togami's night-vision goggles. He sees Nagito acting suspiciously and darts across the room as fast as his legs could carry him. Nagito isn't fast enough and is knocked aside. Togami crawls under the table and grabs the knife, and the culprit underneath the floorboards can't see the glowing tape anymore. There's somebody between him and the tape! His chance! He stabs several times, and the deed is done. Meanwhile, Nagito hears Togami getting exsanguinated and realizes with horror that if the lights come back on now, he'll be the prime suspect! He panics and pulls the tablecloth over Togami, hiding the body for the precious few seconds he needs to get away. He puts distance between himself and the table and knocks into Mikan, putting her into that... position. The culprit realizes belatedly that once everyone figures out the attack came from below that everyone in the dining room will be exonerated. He calls out to make sure everyone can hear him, making his alibi secure. But his fatal flaw was not knowing about the fire door! From the culprit's original place, there's no way he could have entered the dining room. After all, the fire door cuts off the kitchen from the dining room. The only way he could have gotten to that room is under the floor, placing him right where the murder was committed, right when the murder was committed. So? Have I left anything out... true culprit Hanamura-san? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Why on earth did you spoil speculation that has been rehashed dozens of times?
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Serious Frolicking posted:Why on earth did you spoil speculation that has been rehashed dozens of times? Most of it has been mentioned before, yes, but I have not yet seen anyone put the individual components together into one clear and, more importantly, cohesive timeline of events. It may have happened and I just didn't see it (I start skimming about a page or two after the updates, when discussion tends to wander a bit), and if so I apologize.
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I'd spoil unironically using -san too.
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Justin_Brett posted:I'd spoil unironically using -san too. And from a  , too. You should know better, sempai. 
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TheArchimage posted:Most of it has been mentioned before, yes, but I have not yet seen anyone put the individual components together into one clear and, more importantly, cohesive timeline of events. 4th Asclepiadean posted:So you mean that the music itself is a spoiler? I'm curious how exactly the music itself is going to be a spoiler as well. It should be lots of fun. A year from now.
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The OST to Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace was a spoiler. Months before the movie came out people flipped over the CD case and saw the second to last track Qui-Gon's Noble End. It was nice of John Williams to let us know not to give a poo poo about that particular character ahead of time.
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Twiddy posted:I'm curious how exactly the music itself is going to be a spoiler as well. It should be lots of fun. A year from now. I'm guessing it's something like Versailles Burning at the Stake Witch Hunt Preparations from the last game, only even more obvious. edit: The bathroom has nothing to do with the murder, the secret entrance must be in the storage room where Nagito didn't want us to snoop around too much for whatever drat reason. Peko coincidentally became sick all on her own. tiistai fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Mar 16, 2013 |
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tiistai posted:I'm guessing it's something like Versailles Burning at the Stake Witch Hunt Preparations from the last game, only even more obvious. Great, now I'm expecting a track with a name along the lines of "Boil Vigorously at 5000oC" for Hanamura's execution theme.
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tiistai posted:edit: The bathroom has nothing to do with the murder, the secret entrance must be in the storage room where Nagito didn't want us to snoop around too much for whatever drat reason. Peko coincidentally became sick all on her own. The game made far too much noise about when the bathroom was available for it to be completely irrelevant, and there isn't anyone who could have been in the bathroom from the time of the murder to the time the body was discovered. Also, that Gundam was unable to retrieve his earring until Nidai left the bathroom is significant. Pekoyama being sick likely is a red herring. She took a plate of food randomly, so it was impossible to target her specifically. Given how much Togami ate, it was also likely impossible for Pekoyama to be randomly poisoned while avoiding giving Togami "any trace of poison or other drugs". It would be possible to selectively "poison" Pekoyama by slipping a food allergy into the meal, but even if she does have one it's unlikely Hanamura or anyone else knows about it and even if they did why bother? There's no motive for going to all that effort just to upset her digestive tract.
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TheArchimage posted:I'm 99% sure I'm right, so I'm spoilering my reasoning. I probably missed one or two details, but I think it more or less went down like this: I mostly like everything you brought up, except I'm wondering who Nagito planned to murder. Or for that matter, how. I mean, what's his plan in that theory? Find the knife, and then just blindly start stabbing?
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