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Kalman posted:So who else has enjoyed staying at work til midnight today to make sure Baruch Obamawitz has plenty of overtime work over the next couple years? I stopped at Chicago's midnight post office before going out to make sure I got yesterday's filing date. Would be so cool if Baruch gave me my first FOA!
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Working until midnight. . . . Some profession. (Go government. My boss ordered me to leave a 3pm last friday because I had been working until 5:30-6 the rest of the week)
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At my old job (small patent prosecution practice), I never stayed in the office past 3 PM. And only came in maybe once a week. That was pretty nice, but got a little boring after a while.
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nm posted:Working until midnight. . . . Well, it was specifically because a new patent prosecution policy went into effect today, changing America's system from first-to-invent to first-to-file, so people were rushing to file patents before midnight so their patents would still be governed by the old system. This was a once-in-several-years event.
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MoFauxHawk posted:Well, it was specifically because a new patent prosecution policy went into effect today, changing America's system from first-to-invent to first-to-file, so people were rushing to file patents before midnight so their patents would still be governed by the old system. This was a once-in-several-years event. Once in 50 years, really. A friend who filed a pair of apps Thursday told me he saw the numbers jump by 270 applications per minute on Thursday - Friday must have been even worse.
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Mar 16, 2013 20:20
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More like ~25 years since the last one right? The most recent being the big changeover from 17 years from issue to 20 years from filing. I found a pro to being in law school guys! I didn't have to deal with this poo poo.
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gvibes posted:Yes, I tried a handful, and those tovolo ones are the best I've used. Thank you guys for this.
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woozle wuzzle posted:It is a sad state of affairs, but if I get in a bad car accident, among my first 5 thoughts would be "UNDUE HARDSHIP, AHOY!". Solid Lizzie fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Mar 18, 2013 |
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Feces Starship posted:I recently had my section head throw me a sidecar issue for one of his institutional clients. Basically that guy has a cousin with a lot of private loans in default. The client - a boomer banker - and my section head were both incredulous to the point of comedy that the private student loan wasn't dischargeable. They kept reinforcing to me that I must not understand the facts - it's not a government loan, young associate. At least you didn't end it at "He's hosed" and then boot the person out, so that's something! My first pro bono position after leaving New York is now turning into a paid position.  Being counsel to smaller charities/corporations is fun. They're actually people! Unlike giant institutional lenders I've dealt with.
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Mar 18, 2013 18:07
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And here i was just planning on marrying rich.
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MoFauxHawk posted:Well, it was specifically because a new patent prosecution policy went into effect today, changing America's system from first-to-invent to first-to-file, so people were rushing to file patents before midnight so their patents would still be governed by the old system. This was a once-in-several-years event. The best part is that we don't give a poo poo because we're still living in 2011. So get back to me in 2015 when I take my training on AIA.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:The best part is that we don't give a poo poo because we're still living in 2011. So get back to me in 2015 when I take my training on AIA. I miss PTO training. I got so drat good at Bejeweled. How do people make their hours during March Madness? I don't see this going well for me. I bet if the firm was headquartered in North Carolina I'd have the days off.
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insanityv2 posted:And here i was just planning on marrying rich. Maybe if you marry some one that gets paralyzed, that'd count as an undue hardship, and therefore be like marrying rich!
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wacko_- posted:I bet if the firm was headquartered in North Carolina I'd have the days off.
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woozle wuzzle posted:Maybe if you marry some one that gets paralyzed, that'd count as an undue hardship, and therefore be like marrying rich! Loss of consortium
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Mar 20, 2013 15:05
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I know nothing about gaming law, so this is a purely academic questions to satisfy my own curiosity. I fully acknowledge and accept that the exposure to prosecution is incredibly low. The March Madness brackets that everyone gets so hopped up over: don't those constitute betting on college sports? And isn't that illegal in almost every jurisdiction? Again, I understand that people aren't going to be arrested for it (probably because the police and prosecutors have their own brackets going), I'm just interested in the technical aspect. Is there some exception in the law that exempts the brackets or is this just something we as a society have all agreed to ignore?
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Mar 20, 2013 16:44
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Zarkov Cortez posted:Loss of consortium That would lead to some undue hardship.
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Alaemon posted:I know nothing about gaming law, so this is a purely academic questions to satisfy my own curiosity. I fully acknowledge and accept that the exposure to prosecution is incredibly low. I actually had to do a lot of research into gaming law this summer and as you mentioned it is basically state by state. Consequently lots of states have exemptions for small stuff like this and also for the late night poker game type of stuff as well. I'm sure there's states where the "yeah we just won't prosecute you" applies as well.
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I would think that even miniscule winnings from bets like that are not exempt from the IRS. It's still income. Just like a gangster, the only way to get at the office bracket pool winner is with tax evasion.
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Yep, extremely state by state. In some states, extremely large pools could and would be prosecuted. Most tend to have one or more of a not-for-profit or charity exception, a stakes exception, a social gambling exception, etc. and a bracket may or may not fall into one of those but is generally simply on the 'agreed to ignore' list. Also, on the federal level, the UIGEA has a specific exception for fantasy sports. Could somebody creative enough argue that a bracket is a fantasy sport? Maybe! (It's all very taxable, though)
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woozle wuzzle posted:That would lead to some undue hardship. Possibly some long due hardship.
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Either way, you've got to work to make it dischargeable.
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Popehat's doing an ask me anything at Reddit. This was the first thing I saw on the page he linked to:
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woozle wuzzle posted:That would lead to some undue hardship. it would undo my hardship
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Zenostein posted:Popehat's doing an ask me anything at Reddit. This was the first thing I saw on the page he linked to: great shes probably going to start whining about "all the negativity" p soon.
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Ainsley McTree posted:it would undo my hardship At least I could give some discharges.
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TenementFunster posted:"Day" off. Even a day would be nice. I'm here late clearing my filings so I can have the pleasure of watching the games at the sports bar across the street tomorrow while watching my phone for a "where the hell are you" emails.
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Alaemon posted:I know nothing about gaming law, so this is a purely academic questions to satisfy my own curiosity. I fully acknowledge and accept that the exposure to prosecution is incredibly low. At my previous firm, an attorney called the DA and asked about this. He said that yes, it's technically illegal gambling here in Wisconsin, but they have better things to do than prosecute it. He said that as long as all money is distributed he didn't care. So as long as the organizer isn't keeping a percentage or something, it was fine.
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I seem to spend so much time reading canadian stuff in Con Law. I hope that Canadians get stuck reading Australian High Court cases in return.
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LordPants posted:I seem to spend so much time reading canadian stuff in Con Law. I hope that Canadians get stuck reading Australian High Court cases in return. Nope  In first year I think I had to read a few Australian cases on assault in torts and a kooky case on promissory estoppel, and some New Zealand property case on the right to lateral support. But that was about it. Though it did feel like we got stuck reading waaaaaaaay too many American cases in Property
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quepasa18 posted:At my previous firm, an attorney called the DA and asked about this. He said that yes, it's technically illegal gambling here in Wisconsin, but they have better things to do than prosecute it. He said that as long as all money is distributed he didn't care. So as long as the organizer isn't keeping a percentage or something, it was fine. But it's against the law?!
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Only if your bracket's particularly bad.
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ragle posted:But it's against the law?! USDOJ would never bother with it (Organized Crime & Gang Section formally won't), but a March Madness pool could theoretically face prosecution under RICO, which is kind of cool.
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LordPants posted:I seem to spend so much time reading canadian stuff in Con Law. I hope that Canadians get stuck reading Australian High Court cases in return. I'm a 2l in Canada and I think I've read maybe 3 Australian Court cases, and I think those were in property.
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I don't think I've ever read an Australian case. I assume they're all about whether you can tie up your kangaroo in the courtroom and, if so, whether said kangaroo can legally eat the gavel?
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Bro Enlai posted:I don't think I've ever read an Australian case. I assume they're all about whether you can tie up your kangaroo in the courtroom and, if so, whether said kangaroo can legally eat the gavel? Disparaging the boot is a bootable offense!
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Well the one I read was about native australians and hunting rights, if I recall correctly. I guess both of our countries have a history of treating natives like poo poo, which is why we were reading them.
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I've read at least one Australian case: http://rollonfriday.com/Portals/0/ArticleFiles/Transcript_-_Queen_v_DAB11%20%282%29.pdf e: also the Wagon Mound cases. Zarkov Cortez fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Mar 21, 2013 |
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I passed the patent bar Tuesday (just in time too, since Phase 3 gets tested starting April 2) and was wondering if you guys have any advice for a soon to be brand new patent attorney (waiting on the official paperwork to arrive). I'm in Florida, which is where I have my law license. I plan to start the job hunt here, and then expand to DC if necessary since I can waive into the bar there. Anyone have any tips on finding employment? Useful websites or head hunting agencies? Or any advice at all that isn't just "whiskey, a noose and a chair," which really seems like it should be this thread's subtitle.
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