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That looks too good for a PS3 game. Wonder what it looks like in motion.
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Mar 21, 2013 12:50
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:That looks too good for a PS3 game. Wonder what it looks like in motion. According to the trailers we've seen: pretty bad. Framedrops were a problem in 13-2, and the trailers don't make it look that has changed.
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Mar 21, 2013 12:52
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So, the last image means that hp rec is really hard to come? Are we going to have an actual RPG where hp/mp means something between battles?
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Mar 21, 2013 16:06
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That's interesting. Usually these games work by making you constantly pour HP into your guys faster than the enemies can siphon it out. If HP is at a premium this time and you can somehow avoid losing it rather than just refilling it, i would be intrigued by the otherwise radically lovely-looking Final Fantasy 13 3 Lightning Returns
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Mar 21, 2013 16:24
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Aureon posted:So, the last image means that hp rec is really hard to come? I think, judging from the pricing, that it means money will be hard to come by more than anything else. Then again, this is Final Fantasy so that can't be right.
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Mar 21, 2013 16:26
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Why does more healing come at a premium instead of a discount (i.e. it is substantially cheaper to heal 10% 10 times than it is to heal 100% once)? Or can you only do each once, or it's a percentage of missing HP or something?
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Mar 21, 2013 16:31
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Dross posted:Why does more healing come at a premium instead of a discount (i.e. it is substantially cheaper to heal 10% 10 times than it is to heal 100% once)? Or can you only do each once, or it's a percentage of missing HP or something? Considering they stressed time as an issue it could be that you're investing time as well as money in a heal, so healing 10 times to save a little Gil would involve more of an actual investment of your limited time. (Lightning just sittin' there chomping away on a box of Baguettes while the world explodes.)
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Mar 21, 2013 16:35
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drat, those shots are also gorgeous. Hype level rising.
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Mar 21, 2013 16:55
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Something that takes the series back to it's roots or do you mean something that tells it's story simply and effectively? Honestly, both. I miss having a story that isn't needlessly complicated, has whimsical characters, has some sweeping musical scores and feels like a proper fantasy game. Oh, and it needs more crystals. It's been forever since I've been anywhere near interested in this series, that playing Theatrhythm makes me feel sad that I might not see stuff like V or IX ever again. Proto Cloud fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 21, 2013 |
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Mar 21, 2013 17:35
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Not sure if I'm into the idea of FFXIII-3 having some kind of timer or whatever the rumor is. I get really anxious just in games where they have a countdown. Not sure I could take it for a 30 hour game, haha. 
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Mar 21, 2013 17:46
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pretend to care posted:Not sure if I'm into the idea of FFXIII-3 having some kind of timer or whatever the rumor is. I get really anxious just in games where they have a countdown. Not sure I could take it for a 30 hour game, haha. Yeah, not sure how this will work out unless you have some way to reset the timer like in Majora's Mask without losing all of your progress. I imagine there will have to be something like that, because FF is built on grinding or farming drops or tedious sidequests/minigames.
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Mar 21, 2013 17:53
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ImpAtom posted:(Lightning just sittin' there chomping away on a box of Baguettes while the world explodes.) I now hope there is an achievement for that. Also if there is a reset mechanic ad they include no way to bank money, the low prices on food would make sense. The attrition mechanic is really going to depend on how much control and evasion ability you have in combat, though. The new combat system probably has me most excited, and I want to hear more details about what they will let you do in it. And it looks like they can make decent outfits after all! chumbler fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Mar 21, 2013 |
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Mar 21, 2013 17:57
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Aureon posted:So, the last image means that hp rec is really hard to come? I sure loving hope not. I have played exactly 2 games that got this right and neither of them have the words, "final fantasy" in their title.
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Mar 21, 2013 18:11
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Failboattootoot posted:I sure loving hope not. I have played exactly 2 games that got this right and neither of them have the words, "final fantasy" in their title.
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Mar 21, 2013 18:12
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Endorph posted:To be fair, has any final fantasy game even tried anything like that? REALLY scarce? no. "You're gonna have difficulties reaching next tent spot?" IV for sure, and midly all I-X.
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Mar 21, 2013 19:05
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pretend to care posted:Not sure if I'm into the idea of FFXIII-3 having some kind of timer or whatever the rumor is. I get really anxious just in games where they have a countdown. Not sure I could take it for a 30 hour game, haha. Maybe it'll be in some kind of Valkyrie Profile-system, where you have a certain limited number of places you can choose to go per 'stage'?
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Mar 21, 2013 19:05
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Aureon posted:REALLY scarce? no. Addressable in all versions by bringing adequate restorative items. 99 Hi-Potions is usually pocket change by a third of the way through a game.
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Mar 21, 2013 19:19
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Dross posted:Addressable in all versions by bringing adequate restorative items. 99 Hi-Potions is usually pocket change by a third of the way through a game. pretty sure it wasn't so in IV-psp.
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pretend to care posted:Not sure if I'm into the idea of FFXIII-3 having some kind of timer or whatever the rumor is. I get really anxious just in games where they have a countdown. Not sure I could take it for a 30 hour game, haha. Maybe it'll be something like Dead Rising; you get to start over with the same level and items to make the next playthrough easier until you feel able to go through the entire story. As I understand it this game will make it impossible/near impossible to see every possible story event because of the limited time limit so there will be multiple playthroughs. Rygorous fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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Mar 22, 2013 02:32
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The game in general is reminding me of Valkyrie Profile, it has the same doomsday clock and Lightning is basically a valkyrie.
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Mar 22, 2013 02:52
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Rygorous posted:Maybe it'll be something like Dead Rising; you get to start over with the same level and items to make the next playthrough easier until you feel able to go through the entire story. As I understand it this game will make it impossible/near impossible to see every possible story event because of the limited time limit so there will be multiple playthroughs. I absolutely hated BoF: Dragon Quarter due to those mechanics.
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Mar 22, 2013 03:00
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TheWorldIsSquare posted:The game in general is reminding me of Valkyrie Profile, it has the same doomsday clock and Lightning is basically a valkyrie. Because reasons God I hated 13-2s treatment of 13. I actually have no idea what the deal is with 13-3. Is it a sequel to 13-2? Do they ignore it? (please say yes). Is it fan fiction given life (again?). Boogalo posted:I absolutely hated BoF: Dragon Quarter due to those mechanics. You are a bad person, DQ was awesome  Also had some wonderful music from Sakimoto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksX_ISV5q0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpcPpWlg4c0
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Mar 22, 2013 03:00
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victrix posted:You are a bad person, DQ was awesome I was young and impatient and wanted more BoF3. I should hunt it down and try it again. I had trouble getting into Dead Rising as well.
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Mar 22, 2013 03:04
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Boogalo posted:I was young and impatient and wanted more BoF3. Then play BoF4? 
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Boogalo posted:I was young and impatient and wanted more BoF3. I should hunt it down and try it again. I had trouble getting into Dead Rising as well. Just adjust your thinking a bit and its easy to get into. The game was literally built for you to replay it, in terms of new events unlocked and stuff that carried over. Plus it wasn't that hard to just beat it if you didn't care about seeing all the extra stuff either. I think on my completion run I restarted once very early in the game when I had a clue and then plowed to the end on my second try (with a pretty sweet finish, I was in the 90%s in the final series of fights iirc). Neat story/world too. I can see how it'd be a shock coming from a BoF fan though, I wasn't, so to me it was appealing 
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Mar 22, 2013 03:15
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TheWorldIsSquare posted:The game in general is reminding me of Valkyrie Profile, it has the same doomsday clock and Lightning is basically a valkyrie. Tri-Ace supposedly helped on FFXIII-2. I bet they did on FFXIII-3 too. A shame because VP is literally my favorite JRPG ever and if FFXIII-3 was just Valkyrie Profile 4 I'd be happy as hell.
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Mar 22, 2013 03:18
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Krad posted:Then play BoF4? I skipped 4 for some reason. I didn't know there was another BoF until I saw Dragon Quarter on a shelf so I still get the numbers mixed up. Is it too much of a stretch to expect 5 to be like 3?
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Mar 22, 2013 03:18
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Boogalo posted:I skipped 4 for some reason. I didn't know there was another BoF until I saw Dragon Quarter on a shelf so I still get the numbers mixed up. Is it too much of a stretch to expect 5 to be like 3? Yes. It is too much of a stretch to believe any game could be like 3. No other game should ever be like BoF2 or 3. Those loving games were Chores: The JRPG.
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Failboattootoot posted:I sure loving hope not. I have played exactly 2 games that got this right and neither of them have the words, "final fantasy" in their title. My condolences for you only haven't played two of the Dragon Warrior games. I hope they were 3, 4, 6, or 9 at least. Aureon posted:REALLY scarce? no. FF4 never had a "you'll have a hard time reaching the next save point" area, not even the terribly done DS version or the 'hard-type' SNES(and PSP?) version unless you're trying to auto-attack your way through the lunar subterrane. Krad posted:Then play BoF4? I never finished BoF4, I really should do so as it was fun and the "switch over to Play Fou Lu and wreck people's poo poo" parts were always great. There's a reason the series died with Dragon Quarter.
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Boogalo posted:I skipped 4 for some reason. I didn't know there was another BoF until I saw Dragon Quarter on a shelf so I still get the numbers mixed up. Is it too much of a stretch to expect 5 to be like 3? 5 is a completely different genre. Do your younger self a favour and get 4, it's as good as if not better than 3.
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Mar 22, 2013 03:21
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ImpAtom posted:A shame because VP is literally my favorite JRPG ever and if FFXIII-3 was just Valkyrie Profile 4 I'd be happy as hell. I still don't understand how or why VP2 didn't get more recognition. It had a really fun battle system and the graphics were loving insane for the PS2. The final areas in that game were loaded with  areas.I guess it just came out at a really bad time, at the end of the generation (sorta similar to FF9 in that respect), so it was overshadowed by shiny new releases.
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victrix posted:I still don't understand how or why VP2 didn't get more recognition. It had a really fun battle system and the graphics were loving insane for the PS2. The final areas in that game were loaded with I prefer VP1 personally, I like the big focus on the einheryar and I'm a sucker for good spritework. Not to say that VP2 wasn't great though. I even liked Covenant of the Plume, though it didn't come close to the other two. Sex Beef 2.0 fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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Krad posted:5 is a completely different genre. Do your younger self a favour and get 4, it's as good as if not better than 3. Will do. It's a nice cheap $6 on psn too. Since I picked up a PS3 recently, I've been tempted to get a vita or old psp to play my psx RPGs on. Boogalo fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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Mar 22, 2013 03:28
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Boogalo posted:Will do. It's a nice cheap $6 on psn too. Since I picked up a PS3, I've been tempted to get a vita or old psp to play my psx RPGs on. Get the PSP and mod it. It's stunningly easy and the back catalog is unreal if you enjoy rpgs or srpgs. Anything not on PSN can be found in bargain bins for a pittance. This is a good time to do it too, because that stuff is vanishing from shelves to make way for the Vita.
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Mar 22, 2013 03:36
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victrix posted:Because reasons I'm not sure if you're being facetious here. Lightning in XIII-2 was explicitly called Valkyrie Lightning.
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Mar 22, 2013 03:52
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Posted this in the Steam thread earlier, but it's more relevant here, I think.quote:Why are Final Fantasy 7 and Final Fantasy 8 on Steam? Do yourself a favor and don't pick them up when they go on sale. Unless, of course, they're actually a superior product than was released last year for PC. (They won't be)
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Winks posted:I'm not sure if you're being facetious here. Lightning in XIII-2 was explicitly called Valkyrie Lightning. He's just finding ways to bash on XIII-2 more.
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Aureon posted:pretty sure it wasn't so in IV-psp. Nah, healing was cheap enough in IV too. Mostly because White Mages had enough MP to basically spam the spell between tent points and when they started to get low enough to worry about potions WERE cheap enough to cover the distance. I think the problem most people ran into in IV was that most gear upgrades weren't cheap, but most gear upgrades were also pointless because most of them were way too overpriced for very minor gains that would usually be obsoleted by stuff you'd find for free in the next dungeon. There are very few parts where buying more then a couple pieces of whatever a town is selling is worthwhile, and if you do that money for consumables should never be a concern. The only Final Fantasy I can think of where staying at high health was ever an issue would be early in the original versions of FF1. A couple like 4 and 7 could occasionally trick you into thinking you need to spend money more on stuff besides consumables, but those two are also the guiltiest installments of making store-bought gear obsolete extremely quickly.
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Mr. Locke posted:The only Final Fantasy I can think of where staying at high health was ever an issue would be early in the original versions of FF1. You can buy high-potions and ethers like water in FF1 and in a game where you're not likely to have more than 500-600 HP by end game 150 HP of healing is really, really good. Not to mention in a lot of late game dungeons you can coast by just spamming healing helm over and over on your mages for free party wide 60ish HP. Granted, gently caress the ice cavern.
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