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the holy poopacy: May 16, 2009; hey! check this out; Fun Shoe

swamp waste posted:

Here's the thing though: nobody is going to throw away their lives to avoid eating a loving strudel.

Landa is not the type of person to order cream on someone's strudel in the hopes they will reveal themselves to be a Jew by refusing to eat it. That's not how he operates. He doesn't interrogate people because he wants to learn things from them; he has his own sources to find out about them, he just interrogates people to watch them squirm. If Landa insists someone has a strudel with cream it's because he knows they are a Jew and he knows they will feel uncomfortable but eat it anyways.

# ? Mar 19, 2013 05:51

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# ? May 14, 2024 15:30

VanSandman: Feb 16, 2011; SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Critical posted:

Couple more:

Venkman is disgusted by the ectoplasm in the library, remarking "Someone sneezes and you want to keep it." So of course he's the one slimed in the hotel.

When they're dealing with the ghost in the library Ray's master plan is, of course, "Get her!" Venkman gives him poo poo about it afterwards. When dealing with Gozer in the climax Venkman yells "Go get her, Ray!" and gives him a poo poo eating grin, busting his balls about it weeks later.

Those are jokes. Not sure if you're aware of what those are.

# ? Mar 19, 2013 05:59

brick cow: Oct 22, 2008

VanSandman posted:

Those are jokes. Not sure if you're aware of what those are.

(90% of this thread is really about how goons don't understand what the word "subtle" means.)

It's a meta-joke-thing.
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# ? Mar 19, 2013 09:25

Chumbawumba4ever97: Dec 31, 2000; by Fluffdaddy

Blast Fantasto posted:

The joke is that he thought it was "oval office", right?

I remember that line was in all the commercials for that movie and I never got it (because I was early teens when that came out, and that word wasn't really in my vocab). Totally forgot about it until your post.

Yeah that or "twat". I had no idea they used it in the commercials though; so much for me thinking it was meant as a subtle joke. :saddowns:

# ? Mar 19, 2013 11:37

Wild T: Dec 15, 2008; The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.

I was just watching The Lion King with my kids when I caught a really cool little visual flourish. When Simba expresses doubts over his birthright to Raffiki, he is met with a hard slap on top of the head by the latter's walking stick. Simba immediately flinches, touches the top of his head, then quickly glances at his paw to check if his head is bleeding. It made me laugh because in all the dozens of times I've bumped the top of my head on something I've done the exact same reflexive check.

# ? Mar 19, 2013 19:51

Nicholas: Mar 7, 2001; Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?

In Alien, is there any significance to Ash trying to kill Ripley by shoving a rolled up magazine into her mouth? Was there something else going on there?

# ? Mar 19, 2013 20:17

Greggster: Aug 14, 2010

Nicholas posted:

In Alien, is there any significance to Ash trying to kill Ripley by shoving a rolled up magazine into her mouth? Was there something else going on there?

Something about mass media and killing women surely

# ? Mar 19, 2013 20:22

Babysitter Super Sleuth: Apr 26, 2012; my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Nicholas posted:

In Alien, is there any significance to Ash trying to kill Ripley by shoving a rolled up magazine into her mouth? Was there something else going on there?

He's literally trying to kill her by loving her face with a porn magazine.

It's Alien, it's all very symbolic. Metaphorical phalluses, you know.

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# ? Mar 19, 2013 20:23

Nicholas: Mar 7, 2001; Were those not fine days, when we drank of clear honey, and spoke in calm tones of our love for the stuff?

mr. stefan posted:

He's literally trying to kill her by loving her face with a porn magazine.

It's Alien, it's all very symbolic. Metaphorical phalluses, you know.

I think you're halfway right. I Googled my question and Wikipedia actually has a section devoted to this topic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_(Alien)#Sexual_metaphors_and_undertones

quote:

[Ash] is revealed to be far stranger than that when he attempts to kill Ripley with the pornographic magazine, an act which is both an echo of the way that the alien "facehugger" infests its victims, and a sexual symbol of phallic penetration and rape by an android that, even if he did have a phallus (which is not specified in the film) would probably have been sexually non-functional.

Thompson relates the assertion, echoed by Gallardo and Smith, that Ash's use of the pornographic magazine against Ripley "relat[es] pornography to violence against women", but disputes it, stating that this analyses the scene by itself, without taking into account the larger context of the rest of the film. Thompson points out that this is a clumsy and inefficient way to attempt to kill Ripley, as evidenced not the least by the fact that it takes long enough that other characters are able to turn up on the scene and intervene. Thompson states that rather than relating to pornography and the nature of the magazine, Ash's assault is structured as it is by the film-makers in order to allude to the "facehugger"'s infestation of its victims, as observed by Ash in an earlier scene where Kane is being CAT scanned. Although not in itself explicitly sexual, it does involve the creature's reproductive cycle. Thompson argues that Ash is here simply emulating the creature that he so admires. Ash's instructions from the Corporation, Thompson argues, did not explicitly state that he kill any member of the crew, and it is possible that Ash acquired his notions of the proper way to kill a human being from observing the alien. Thompson qualifies this interpretation by noting that it is not one that is likely to occur upon a first viewing of the film.

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# ? Mar 19, 2013 22:18

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; 🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

In Who Framed Roger Rabbit , Judge Doom buys up ToonTown, and someone questions where he got the money.

When Eddie is telling Roger about what happened to his brother, he mentions that the case involved going after a guy who 'made off with a million simoleans'.

# ? Mar 21, 2013 18:18

Jay 2K Winger: Oct 10, 2007; What are you looking for?

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

In Who Framed Roger Rabbit , Judge Doom buys up ToonTown, and someone questions where he got the money.

When Eddie is telling Roger about what happened to his brother, he mentions that the case involved going after a guy who 'made off with a million simoleans'.

Those simoleans also get mentioned when Eddie is first introduced to Judge Doom. When Eddie wonders how Doom got to be a judge, his cop buddy tells him he bought the election with a bunch of simoleans.

# ? Mar 21, 2013 19:53

DrBouvenstein: Feb 28, 2007; I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

I don't think this was posted, if it was, sorry.

But anyone who's anyone has seen Wreck-It Ralph, and if it was in the theater, also saw Paperman.

Well, here's Ralph in the Bad-Anon meeting:

Check the piece of paper over his shoulder on the bulletin board.

# ? Mar 21, 2013 20:35

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; 🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Jay 2K Winger posted:

Those simoleans also get mentioned when Eddie is first introduced to Judge Doom. When Eddie wonders how Doom got to be a judge, his cop buddy tells him he bought the election with a bunch of simoleans.

Ah, that's actually what I was referring to when I said 'someone questions where he got the money'. Turns out it was Eddie himself.

That's it!! THAT'S the connection!!

# ? Mar 21, 2013 22:03

Dickweasel Alpha: Feb 8, 2011; Mod Secrets #614 - Experto Crede is the one who bought most of those frog avatars

Session 9 is a movie full of things that are full of foreshadowing, but in a strange way because it often foreshadows toward a twist that is very, very difficult to see coming on your first viewing of the film. This is because the film spends the entire time building up your expectations, and undercuts them at the last second in a way that surprises you, might frustrate you, and then makes complete loving sense.

Here-on is spoilers, though, so I strongly suggest you first watch the movie, and then read these. Not only because you'll be spoiled ahead of time, but because these will be the first of what's likely a lot of little details you'll go hunting for after a first viewing so you can see all the little nods the movie makes.

First and foremost is my favorite thing of the whole movie: That Goddamn Chair. Gordon stares at it for a long time, and a voice fairly clearly talks to him while he does it. This is pretty creepy in itself, and later on you realize that the voice is "Simon", which can be interpreted to be a supernatural force that possesses people. What's really interesting, though, is what that chair is, and where it is.

When they see the chair, they're in the women's high-security ward of seclusions. That chair is outside of Marry Hobbes' room. It has restraints, and since Mary was considered high-risk because she has D.I.D., one of them being homicidal, she'd be doing her session tapes in a chair like that. It's pretty clearly the chair used to restrain, and possibly transport, Mary to and from her doctor's appointments as well. So Gordon stares at this chair, a chair that was used to restrain Mary in case her "Simon" personality were to wake up and attempt to kill staff, and Simon speaks to him. It isn't just coincidence, or spooky, it's pretty deliberate.

Another good subtle moment is one that everyone I've watched it with, myself included, absolutely noticed but completely forgot. When Hank is running around in the basement after getting his stash of coins, he hears somebody following him around. At this point, we have no idea who it is besides the fact that Phil obviously hates Hank, and might want to hurt him. So Hank is running around, and shines his flashlight for a good five seconds on an empty jar of JIF peanut butter laying in the hallway.

Earlier in the film, we can clearly see Gordon holding a bag filled with groceries and stuff, along with a jar of JIF peanut butter. The only two clearly visible items in the bag are a box of oreos, and that jar of PB. The oreos go into the door of the van, and the peanut butter ends up in the basement of the hospital. It's pretty clear that Gordon is either A: squatting in the asylum, or B: spending all his time there. And yet you notice this jar of peanut butter, you know that you've seen it before, you know that Gordon had it, and you know that somebody attacks Hank before he can leave the basement... and every single person that's seen the movie with me though that Phil was down there waiting to attack Hank. We all saw the jar of JIF and completely disregarded it until later, when Gordon's revealed and we think about the scene with Hank, wonder "what the gently caress was with the peanut but--OHSHIT"

My last favorite thing is less a subtle thing, and more a main theme in the story. There's talk of 'repressed memories' of events that never occurred, and how those repressed memories can be faked and brought into the light of day. Then, as the story goes on, the only repressed memories that were actually faked were the ones used as a basis for "doctors had a way to fake memories in patients by suggestion"

Mary Hobbes struggles with the repressed memory of killing her brother, then entire family, which was 100% true. Gordon struggles with the repressed memory of killing his family, child included, over the pot of water being spilled on his leg. Both of these events actually happened, so the entire build-up about "false repressed memories" is a red herring, which leads you to wonder--was the first case of "false repressed memories" actually false?

# ? Mar 22, 2013 01:47

Grape Juice Vampire: Aug 1, 2009

So I just got around to watching Wreck-It-Ralph. Early on, Vanellope explains that the double-striped branches will break when touched. Her tights are also double-striped, which may be a reference to her being a glitch? v :shobon:

# ? Mar 22, 2013 03:39

Ariong: Jun 25, 2012

Grape Juice Vampire posted:

So I just got around to watching Wreck-It-Ralph. Early on, Vanellope explains that the double-striped branches will break when touched. Her tights are also double-striped, which may be a reference to her being a glitch? vv

Seems like a long shot to me.

# ? Mar 22, 2013 03:55

Great Green Auk: Aug 31, 2011; It's chameleons all the way down.

DrBouvenstein posted:

I don't think this was posted, if it was, sorry.

But anyone who's anyone has seen Wreck-It Ralph, and if it was in the theater, also saw Paperman.

Well, here's Ralph in the Bad-Anon meeting:

Check the piece of paper over his shoulder on the bulletin board.

Holy poo poo.

# ? Mar 22, 2013 04:08

Kaboom Dragoon: May 7, 2010; The greatest of feasts

Dickweasel Alpha posted:

Session 9

Something else I just noticed while watching there, and I don't know if it was intentional or not, but it's too good not to mention: Mary's patient number is #444

# ? Mar 22, 2013 06:06

Dickweasel Alpha: Feb 8, 2011; Mod Secrets #614 - Experto Crede is the one who bought most of those frog avatars

Is that significant? Or is it the fact that its similar to another number what you mean?

# ? Mar 22, 2013 13:39

Sephiroth_IRA: Mar 31, 2010

Great Green Auk posted:

Holy poo poo.

gently caress, I still haven't seen this movie. Why is the theatrical version different?

edit: Oh the cartoon before the movie, drat, I thought only Pixar was doing that.

# ? Mar 22, 2013 14:08

Kaboom Dragoon: May 7, 2010; The greatest of feasts

Dickweasel Alpha posted:

Is that significant? Or is it the fact that its similar to another number what you mean?

If you check the Wiki article I linked to in that post, the number 4 is considered unlucky in many Asian cultures, and often associated with death. And you get to see Gordon sitting right next to a gravestone with #444 at one point, so...

# ? Mar 22, 2013 19:07

DrBouvenstein: Feb 28, 2007; I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

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# ? Mar 22, 2013 19:22

priznat: Jul 7, 2009; Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Watching Hellboy II: The Golden Army and noticed a couple little things:

1) During the intro the professor tells Hellboy to turn off the Howdy Doody TV show, of which Hellboy is obviously a fan (he has a Howdy Doody doll!). He then tells him the story of the Golden Army. Later, when the Elf princess Nuala tells of her brother's plan to control the Golden Army, Hellboy turns and mutters "Howdy doody!" under his breath.

2) Hellboy is nigh invulnerable most of the time, getting beaten on by Orks or whatever without a scratch. Yet after he returns the baby he saves the crowd reacts in a hostile way to him, someone throws a rock which cuts him. A couple scenes later Krauss tells him "you can't take criticism" and his temper "makes you weak, makes you vulnerable"

3) After the encounter with a hostile crowd, "Bride of Frankenstein" is playing on one of the tvs in Hellboy's quarters.

Probably a few more but I'm only partway through the movie so far

# ? Mar 23, 2013 06:13

Sephiroth_IRA: Mar 31, 2010

I watched Wreck it Ralph for the first time today, I'm sure that most people noticed the "Aerith Lives" graffiti and of course get that it's an obvious reference to Final Fantasy VII, but it's also a nod to "Frodo Lives".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frodo_Lives

Anyway, would a subtle video game moment be fine? I've never seen anyone else point this out so here goes:

Everyone knows the Pokemon Jynx is supposed to represent a racial stereotype of a black transvestite. In Pokemon Red/Blue you can only get one Jynx during the game by trading for it. Pokemon received in a trade have nicknames and Jynx's nickname is Lola.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaMS_5i0Bbs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_%28song%29

quote:

In the book The Kinks: The Official Biography, Davies said that he was inspired to write this song after the band manager Robert Wace had spent the night dancing with a transvestite. Davies said,
� In his apartment, Robert had been dancing with this black woman, and he said, 'I'm really onto a thing here.' And it was okay until we left at six in the morning and then I said, 'Have you seen the stubble?' He said 'Yeah,' but he was too pissed [intoxicated] to care, I think. �

In his autobiography, Dave Davies said that he came up with the music for what would become Lola. After Dave had shown his brother the music, Ray came up with the lyrics. Dave went on to say his brother took all the credit for the song.

The original song recorded in stereo had the word "Coca-Cola" in the lyrics, but because of BBC Radio's policy against product placement, Ray was forced to make a six thousand mile round-trip flight from New York to London�interrupting the band's American tour�to change those words to the generic "cherry cola" for the single release.[4]

The success of the single had important ramifications for the band's career at a critical time, allowing them to negotiate a new contract with RCA Records, construct their own London Studio, and assume more creative and managerial control.
Live single

I doubt it's a coincidence, considering there are a few classic rock references elsewhere in the US red/blue translation.

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# ? Mar 23, 2013 17:54

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priznat posted:

Watching Hellboy II: The Golden Army and noticed a couple little things:

Hellboy 2 is amazing and I'm really sorry that Del Toro didn't get to direct H.P. Lovecraft's At the mountains of madness, because that would have been incredible.

# ? Mar 23, 2013 19:56

priznat: Jul 7, 2009; Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Edmond Dantes posted:

Hellboy 2 is amazing and I'm really sorry that Del Toro didn't get to direct H.P. Lovecraft's At the mountains of madness, because that would have been incredible.

Agreed, I love the Hellboy flicks and 2 is especially fantastic. The Troll Market segment is amazing. I'd live them to do another one before Ron Perlman gets too old! If he can't do it forget it.

# ? Mar 23, 2013 21:26

MrGreenShirt: Mar 14, 2005; Hell of a book. It's about bunnies!

Edmond Dantes posted:

Hellboy 2 is amazing and I'm really sorry that Del Toro didn't get to direct H.P. Lovecraft's At the mountains of madness, because that would have been incredible.

Well at the very least we probably got a few glimpses in Hellboy 2 of his Elder Thing design.

# ? Mar 23, 2013 23:16

Nycticeius: Feb 25, 2008; This is the part when you try to stop me and I beat the hell out of you.

I just saw this video about visual throwbacks in the Nolan Batman trilogy. Most of these may not be subtle, and some may not carry some actual meaning, but I thought it was very interesting, specially towards some (heavy-handed) character analogies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdjsu4-704

# ? Mar 24, 2013 11:22

Sir Joseph Banksy: May 9, 2009; boing...boing...boing...boing...

When The Joker first appears in the bank scene during The Dark Knight, he is wearing some rather distinctive facial adornment.

During the first ever appearance of Joker in the 1966 Batman TV show there is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrh7u0dmzM

(Jump to around 21 mins in, and be prepared to be blown away...)

(edit: spelling)

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jrgnsn_tjf posted:

When The Joker first appears in the bank scene during The Dark Knight, he is wearing some rather distinctive facial adornment.

During the first ever appearance of Joker in the 1966 Batman TV show there is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrh7u0dmzM

(Jump to around 21 mins in, and be prepared to be blown away...)

(edit: spelling)

Holy gently caress. :stare:

# ? Mar 26, 2013 14:50

Kaboom Dragoon: May 7, 2010; The greatest of feasts

jrgnsn_tjf posted:

When The Joker first appears in the bank scene during The Dark Knight, he is wearing some rather distinctive facial adornment.

During the first ever appearance of Joker in the 1966 Batman TV show there is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrh7u0dmzM

(Jump to around 21 mins in, and be prepared to be blown away...)

(edit: spelling)

This is why we need a DVD release of the 60s Batman! gently caress royalties and copyright, people need to see this poo poo for all kinds of reasons!

# ? Mar 26, 2013 16:19

Sir Joseph Banksy: May 9, 2009; boing...boing...boing...boing...

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

This is why we need a DVD release of the 60s Batman! gently caress royalties and copyright, people need to see this poo poo for all kinds of reasons!

I can only put it down to the lengths Nolan goes to to make unrepentant fanboys like me happy folk. You couldn't beleive the noises coming out of my body when I first saw it....

# ? Mar 26, 2013 16:25

haakman: May 5, 2011

jrgnsn_tjf posted:

When The Joker first appears in the bank scene during The Dark Knight, he is wearing some rather distinctive facial adornment.

During the first ever appearance of Joker in the 1966 Batman TV show there is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrh7u0dmzM

(Jump to around 21 mins in, and be prepared to be blown away...)

(edit: spelling)

What the...

... that's amazing!

# ? Mar 26, 2013 16:47

Terminal Entropy: Dec 26, 2012

On a similar note, Tom Waits is the Joker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG2nEPYXL7c

# ? Mar 26, 2013 21:03

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Terminal Entropy posted:

On a similar note, Tom Waits is the Joker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG2nEPYXL7c

I've thought for a while now that Heath could have played a young Tom Waits in a biopic really well.

# ? Mar 27, 2013 06:27

scary ghost dog: Aug 5, 2007

Terminal Entropy posted:

On a similar note, Tom Waits is the Joker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG2nEPYXL7c

Yeah, I noticed this as soon as I saw the movie.

# ? Mar 28, 2013 02:32

Cowslips Warren: Oct 29, 2005; What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?; Grimey Drawer

Small thing from Wreck-It Ralph: when Ralph is climbing up the candy cane tree to get his medal, muttering about the candy cane tree inspectors, that 'we have a lot of work to do here,' trying to get the kid to leave, Vanellope asks, "We, as in the royal we?"

Vanellope is the real princess/ruler of Sugar Rush.

There's also the hint about King Candy's real identity, not because he asks Ralph about going Turbo (Turbo being something it seems everyone knows about) but because he's in another racing game, and is the only character that isn't child-aged/sized.

edit: Finding Nemo, something that a lot of aquarists picked up: when Nemo's in the dentist tank and the fish are introducing themselves, only one of them ID's as being from the ocean, that being Gill. Gill is a Moorish Idol, a species notoriously hard to keep alive in captivity. Most fish barely last a year and slowly starve themselves to death. Only a few last longer than a year and usually die within five. Most of the other fish aren't captive bred, but the royal gamma, the damselfish, and possibly the seastar were aquacultured.

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# ? Mar 28, 2013 03:08

Ariong: Jun 25, 2012

Cowslips Warren posted:

Small thing from Wreck-It Ralph: when Ralph is climbing up the candy cane tree to get his medal, muttering about the candy cane tree inspectors, that 'we have a lot of work to do here,' trying to get the kid to leave, Vanellope asks, "We, as in the royal we?"

Vanellope is the real princess/ruler of Sugar Rush.

Both of those statements are true, but I fail to see how one foreshadows the other.

# ? Mar 28, 2013 06:15

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Ariong posted:

Both of those statements are true, but I fail to see how one foreshadows the other.

She wonders about the meaning of 'we' because she is royalty herself and might use 'we' to mean 'I'.

# ? Mar 28, 2013 07:58

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# ? May 14, 2024 15:30

Riptor: Apr 13, 2003; here's to feelin' good all the time

Something I realized this morning:

In Back to the Future II, the Hill Valley Courthouse in 2015 has been changed into the Courthouse Mall. I always thought it was just a simple reflection on how times change and the world becomes more commercialized, etc, and especially a nod towards the mall craze of the 1980s. But there's an extra layer to it - earlier when Doc is telling Marty about the swiftness with which Marty's kids get convicted, he mentions that the justice system works much faster "now that they've abolished all laywers". If there's no lawyers you don't need a courthouse to be a courthouse anymore!

# ? Mar 29, 2013 14:13

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