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DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Aren't they missing a few?

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univbee
Jun 3, 2004





Yes, and this was pointed out in the Something Awful thread about the site too.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

univbee posted:

For what it's worth here's the other "map" that was posted on the Tea Party Facebook-equivalent:



The GDP map was posted in response to that to point out what a terrible idea that would be on a pure economic level.

So basically most of the economic production and most of the places people actually want to live? What a hard bargain. And all 7 of the largest CSAs.

Simulated
Sep 28, 2001
Lowtax giveth, and Lowtax taketh away.
College Slice

Cygni posted:

So basically most of the economic production and most of the places people actually want to live? What a hard bargain. And all 7 of the largest CSAs.

Don't forget to carve out half of Texas' population with some big fat circles around Dallas, Austin, etc.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Ender.uNF posted:

Don't forget to carve out half of Texas' population with some big fat circles around Dallas, Austin, etc.

No that's ok, I think we'll just forget.

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

univbee posted:

For what it's worth here's the other "map" that was posted on the Tea Party Facebook-equivalent:



The GDP map was posted in response to that to point out what a terrible idea that would be on a pure economic level.

"the schools suck"

Aren't 8 out of the worst 10 states in education in the red area?

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

aBagorn posted:

"the schools suck"

Aren't 8 out of the worst 10 states in education in the red area?

By the list I found 9 of the 10, all but California, are red. And 9 of the 10 highest, all but Colorado, are blue.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

aBagorn posted:

"the schools suck"

Aren't 8 out of the worst 10 states in education in the red area?

Schools, not Liberal Indoctrination Centers (LICs)

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

By the list I found 9 of the 10, all but California, are red. And 9 of the 10 highest, all but Colorado, are blue.

Colorado went blue in 08 and 12 and is continuing to get bluer. So yeah.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...
Also according to wiki, in 2004 the south had more violent crimes per 100,000 people than the areas on the map that are blue. Turns out poverty, no minimum wage, and loose gun laws don't cause crime to drop;


(darker means more crime per 100,000)

E: To be fair though, there are some pretty dark regions on that map that were blue on the map from facebook, including Maryland and DC. The idea that only the blue regions on the map had criminals is ridiculous but I suppose it would be unfair to imply that crime is only a problem in one of the two map's regions.

burnishedfume fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Mar 21, 2013

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
Guys stop trying to analyze that map it's pretty obviously stupid.

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

This map always makes me want this other NYT map to be used to redistrict our states by population:

Let's live in N/S Cascadia, Blue Mexico, Cottonbelt, South Texas, New New England, Windy City, and Hawaii. Just imagine how good the exchange rate between $USD and LibertopiaBux will be!

Elim Garak
Aug 5, 2010

That's missing the county I grew up in! Boo to that map!

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Muscle Tracer posted:

This map always makes me want this other NYT map to be used to redistrict our states by population:

Let's live in N/S Cascadia, Blue Mexico, Cottonbelt, South Texas, New New England, Windy City, and Hawaii. Just imagine how good the exchange rate between $USD and LibertopiaBux will be!

Which (major) American cities are red? Because it looks to me like you would have some weird union of city-states and their surroundings VS red wasteland.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

DarkCrawler posted:

Which (major) American cities are red? Because it looks to me like you would have some weird union of city-states and their surroundings VS red wasteland.


Red State, Blue City: How the Urban-Rural Divide Is Splitting America

quote:

...
The only major cities that voted Republican in the 2012 presidential election were Phoenix, Oklahoma City, Fort Worth, and Salt Lake City. With its dominant Mormon population, Mitt Romney was a lock in the Utah capital; Phoenix nearly voted for Obama. After that, the largest urban centers to tilt Republican included Wichita, Lincoln, Neb., and Boise.
...

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Salt Lake City, Oklahoma City, Jacksonville, FL and maybe Omaha, NE are the only ones I can think of.

Edit: Beaten with more accurate information too.

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009
To be fair the urban/rural divide is hardly unique to America, just look at the UK electoral maps posted earlier, the Blue constituencies of the Conservative Party tend to be the large rural ones while most of the tiny little red urban ones vote Labour. The exceptions to the rule being Wales and Scotland which have nationalist parties added to the mix. Scotland in particular is interesting with it's almost complete lack of Conservative seats.

Then there's northern Ireland which could probably have a whole post of its own.

For example, UK 2010 Electoral Map:

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...
Is the black province BNP, or is unpopulated or something? Sorry I'm kinda ignorant about British politics :v:.

Crameltonian
Mar 27, 2010

DrProsek posted:

Is the black province BNP, or is unpopulated or something? Sorry I'm kinda ignorant about British politics :v:.

That'll be Thirsk and Malton,a constituency where one of the candidates died so the election there was delayed for a few weeks.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Crameltonian posted:

That'll be Thirsk and Malton,a constituency where one of the candidates died so the election there was delayed for a few weeks.

Ahhh, :smith:. Well at least it's good to hear there's no BNP constituencies; I know they're a fringe group anyway but when I see black on an electoral map I think far-right.

Justin Trudeau
Apr 4, 2009

There's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime

I'd be interested to know how that breaks down along urban/suburban lines. Here in Canada, the Conservatives do well in rural and suburban ridings, the Liberals do well in urban and suburban ridings and the NDP (socialist, but not really) do well in urban and rural ridings. Here's the 2011 election:

You can see in Toronto and Vancouver centers of NDP/Liberal surrounded by Conservative suburbs. The urban/rural divide that's present in the US isn't nearly as clear in Canada.

Crameltonian
Mar 27, 2010

DrProsek posted:

Ahhh, :smith:. Well at least it's good to hear there's no BNP constituencies; I know they're a fringe group anyway but when I see black on an electoral map I think far-right.

Our FPTP system means it's incredibly hard for new parties to get anywhere (the Greens have one seat but they had to throw most of their resources at that one IIRC and they're nowhere near a breakthrough anywhere else). It's poo poo but the upside is that a BNP constituency was never very likely even at their height and since 2010 they've more or less fallen apart tothe point where they're planning to collect and sell scrap metal to stay afloat. far-right even if they're not necessarily fascist.

Agustin Cienfuegos
May 7, 2008


Does anyone with more knowledge of French culture, politics, etc. explain why along the Garonne there are more far-right wingers? Sort of acts as a boundary or insular area between two that voted more along Socialist lines.

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

Agustin Cienfuegos posted:

Does anyone with more knowledge of French culture, politics, etc. explain why along the Garonne there are more far-right wingers? Sort of acts as a boundary or insular area between two that voted more along Socialist lines.

Actually, the Front National has traditionally enjoyed its strongest support in PACA and Languedoc-Rousillon, both in the south of the country. This is where most of the European colonists settled after independence of North African colonies, especially Algeria in 1962. These same regions also have the highest rates of Muslim immigration from those former colonies. The pieds-noirs have always had a strong right-wing tendency, and heavy immigration has also resulted in a right-wing populist reaction. You see similar FN support among white voters in the banlieues of Paris and Lyon, and I assume it's the same sort of thing around Bordeaux.

Cold Fusion
May 27, 2001

Soviet Commubot posted:

French election maps from the first round of the 2012 election. Basically, Alsace and the whole northeastern edge of the Hexagon are terrible while Paris, Brittany, the French Basque country and some weird area to the southeast of Limoges are pretty cool.

Hollande (Socialist Party)





Why would you equate the Socialistes/François Hollande with "cool" and "goodness", that's a really stupid thing to say.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Cold Fusion posted:

Why would you equate the Socialistes/François Hollande with "cool" and "goodness", that's a really stupid thing to say.

The listless hope of the global center-left?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Agustin Cienfuegos posted:



Does anyone with more knowledge of French culture, politics, etc. explain why along the Garonne there are more far-right wingers? Sort of acts as a boundary or insular area between two that voted more along Socialist lines.

I just noticed the spot of Le Pen in French Guiana, weird.

Mu Cow
Oct 26, 2003

Archaeology Hat posted:

To be fair the urban/rural divide is hardly unique to America...

I enjoy this example of Urban/Rural divide.



The 2011 parliamentary results of Finland. That massive green glob covering most of the country finished 4th.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Cold Fusion posted:

Why would you equate the Socialistes/François Hollande with "cool" and "goodness", that's a really stupid thing to say.

That's not really what I was doing. I was equating not voting for the UMP and FN with "cool" and "goodness".

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Mu Cow posted:

I enjoy this example of Urban/Rural divide.



The 2011 parliamentary results of Finland. That massive green glob covering most of the country finished 4th.

I tried figuring out what the grey bits in the bottom-left corner are, but I got more confused. (Thanks, ObamaWikipedia.) Is that part of Finland or not?

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

prefect posted:

I tried figuring out what the grey bits in the bottom-left corner are, but I got more confused. (Thanks, ObamaWikipedia.) Is that part of Finland or not?

Sort of...

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Mu Cow posted:

I enjoy this example of Urban/Rural divide.



The 2011 parliamentary results of Finland. That massive green glob covering most of the country finished 4th.

Imagine what Finland would be like if they had a US-style Senate.

edit: Actually the Centre (Green dudes) don't look totally horrible but basically gently caress the Senate.

tumblr hype man
Jul 29, 2008

nice meltdown
Slippery Tilde
Poking around the OkTrends blog, which does "research" based on OkCupid's users and data and found this map.
From: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/gay-sex-vs-straight-sex/



Contrasted with:

From: http://www.freedomtomarry.org/states/

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

SpecialK2 posted:

Poking around the OkTrends blog, which does "research" based on OkCupid's users and data and found this map.
From: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/gay-sex-vs-straight-sex/


Contrasted with:


Clearly gay curiosity is the driving force of a high human development index, and the development of the South could be improved via sponsored hot gay sex commercials.

There's probably a correlation:causation fallacy in there somewhere, but it couldn't hurt to try it anyway.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Why would anyone make a map with colors so close together as to be indistinguishable :psyduck:

Don Pigeon
Oct 29, 2005

Great pigeons are not born great. They grow great by eating lots of bread crumbs.

Shbobdb posted:

Why would anyone make a map with colors so close together as to be indistinguishable :psyduck:

Because it's a politically-loaded map.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
To add my two cents; warning: an absolutely selfish reason for GLBLT (gay lesbian bacon lettus tomoato) acceptance follows.



I think any progression of rights and acceptance helps us all. I'm sure if I lived somewhere where gay and acronym people were not accepted my fat white unmarried lazy rear end would be not accepted too. I'm happy for society to move the 'goal posts' for acceptance away from my front lines towards whatever anyone wants.

Thus its fundamentally a better place to live where gay (and GLPaT, gay lesbian pesto and turkey) people are accepted; because acceptance is just awesome all around.

I apologize if this post upsets anyone: I'm pretty hungry. Its kinda like the whole "First they came for the communists..." thing, but hungrier. And less communist (sorry D&D).

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Shbobdb posted:

Why would anyone make a map with colors so close together as to be indistinguishable :psyduck:
It's just meant to give a general impression without being ugly as sin.

Poor Montana.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Shbobdb posted:

Why would anyone make a map with colors so close together as to be indistinguishable :psyduck:

Might want to take a colorblindness test, honestly.

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a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

SpecialK2 posted:

Poking around the OkTrends blog, which does "research" based on OkCupid's users and data and found this map.
From: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/gay-sex-vs-straight-sex/



Hey Salt Lake City. What up?

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