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Overture posted:How can I unequip abilities? Not seeing a way to do that, and I really want to, because I am upset my claw currently sucks. Go to the ability slot in the garage and hit None. You can also buy an extra stock gun for the Accord frame over at Copacabana and pop that into a advanced frame if you don't like what it has.
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CLAM DOWN posted:The basic gameplay wasn't revamped at all in this patch. The gear/ability/class system was, that's not base gameplay. If you had a good handle on the basic gameplay before the patch you were just fine after. Actually, you're right. Basically everything other than the basic gameplay (running around, shooting things) has changed. The progression system, the crafting system, the resources, battleframe skills and customization, some of the movement(air-sprinting and the energy cost for sprinting in pvp), etc etc.
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CLAM DOWN posted:The basic gameplay wasn't revamped at all in this patch. The gear/ability/class system was, that's not base gameplay. If you had a good handle on the basic gameplay before the patch you were just fine after. Well this is dumb as gently caress. They don't have to add army leaderboards or any features like that, just let communities be able to easily play amongst themselves and then there's no wiping needed.
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Mar 23, 2013 19:57
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Tufty posted:Well this is dumb as gently caress. They don't have to add army leaderboards or any features like that, just let communities be able to easily play amongst themselves and then there's no wiping needed. It's a beta, don't worry about it, they specifically said they're adding incomplete features. You should expect wipes and limitations.
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Mar 23, 2013 20:12
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Nalin posted:So, apparently you can go into your tier 1 Assault frame, unequip all the good abilities, then toss them into the Tigerclaw. Now the Tigerclaw is awesome again. You lose out on rocket jump and cannonball, but the new passive gives you a massive energy recharge rate after you use a skill. Use afterburner and just fly around until the ability ends. It is very nice. I really dislike the pvp changes. I can understand wanting a level playing field, but having 0 customization just makes things sort of lame, especially when the choices you get stuck with are so bad. eSporks fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Mar 23, 2013 |
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This is the topic where they are discussing armies by the way: http://www.firefallthegame.com/community/threads/20-man-limit-to-armies-not-acceptable.86424/ Wadjamaloo posted:I'm eSporks in game, I told you about that. Unfortunately it does not work in pvp, you are locked into the stock frame. The pvp gun also seems to have less aoe than the default, I pretty much never get splash of any kind. Its damage is also just barely under 2 shot range, so you have to land 3 direct hits or finish them off with the rifle at which point the accord gun would just be better. Oh, did I mention the RoF is painfully slow. Like I said before, its like playing a really slow recon that shoots nerf darts and you do less damage too.
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Mar 23, 2013 20:27
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Nalin posted:It is a piece of crap. It was my main T2 frame before this patch, but how is it a "piece of crap" now? It's nowhere near what it used to be, but it's still very good and I've been trying it out today quite a bit.
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Mar 23, 2013 20:28
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CLAM DOWN posted:It's a beta, don't worry about it, they specifically said they're adding incomplete features. You should expect wipes and limitations. I've been through tons of wipes in Firefall, I just think it's stupid for them to add the army system FINALLY and then limit it so harshly. If they're planning on an army wipe in the future (I'm guessing this will be to do with army-wide bonuses, PVP leaderboards etc) I don't see how wiping the progress of a guild with 100 members is any different to one with 20. And since the army features that necessitate a wipe aren't even in the game yet (right?), the crazy low limit makes even less sense. I just want what is a essentially a meta friends list so I can play with goons rather than having to rely on grouping with pubbies  Edit: After reading the Red5 post in that thread linked above it makes a bit more sense. I hope they get around to adding the ability to expand army size sooner rather than later. Tufty fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Mar 23, 2013 |
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Mar 23, 2013 20:32
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Can I get an invite into Goons without joining mumble, I would much prefer that.
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az posted:Can I get an invite into Goons without joining mumble, I would much prefer that. Anyone around to throw me an invite to the goon army or let me access mumble? I'm locked out of most channels
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Mar 23, 2013 21:51
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xxEightxx posted:Anyone around to throw me an invite to the goon army or let me access mumble? I'm locked out of most channels Game servers are crapping out at the moment so I don't think [GOON] is created yet. Chris is also AFK and he's the one who authenticates people.
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Mar 23, 2013 21:56
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Well, at least I can experience the joy of SimCity without paying EA 60 bucks.
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Login screen says they are investigating the cause of the "establishing connection" issue and hope to do a hotfix soon!
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Mar 23, 2013 22:34
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So what does capturing towers and SIN networks do? Just give you map access and occasionally respawn points? I see a lot of what I guess is the melding out west, and it looks like someone cut a path north through it via capping towers. So I was wondering what that's all about.
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edit: never mind i'm dumb. Do we have any sort of new crafting guide available, because I don't get it at all. I can't make heads or tails of this poo poo. Juchero fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Mar 23, 2013 |
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Mar 23, 2013 22:46
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Capping certain areas ensures things like increased XP and resources. And capping other areas prevents the Chosen from spreading too fast. Also, you can't see everything in an area if the Chosen have it.
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Absurd Revolver posted:edit: never mind i'm dumb. The devs posted a guide: http://www.firefallthegame.com/community/threads/crafting-and-you.86499/ It's not super helpful but it'll explain the main differences.
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Morgoth posted:EDIT: Someone already got you. Yup, it's happening to me as well, sad to say. I just wanna thump with goons. 
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It's weird that they keep throwing out this vertical progression buzz word, I never really know what they mean by it. However, with this patch I find it strange that customization is basically gone and your guy simply just gets better but very very slowly.
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Customization now sits in the crafting system, which is only half built. It boils down to, you can make a gun that does more damage, but it will use more power than your base gun. You can offset this by making it do less aoe damage, for example, so that it will fit in your constraints. Likewise for armor, jumpjets/servos, abilities and eventually reactors as well, I guess? They've hinted as much, at any rate. You can actually customize your frame a lot more than before, you just have to navigate the very early version of a UI to do so.
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VonLudwig posted:Customization now sits in the crafting system, which is only half built. It boils down to, you can make a gun that does more damage, but it will use more power than your base gun. You can offset this by making it do less aoe damage, for example, so that it will fit in your constraints. Likewise for armor, jumpjets/servos, abilities and eventually reactors as well, I guess? They've hinted as much, at any rate. You can actually customize your frame a lot more than before, you just have to navigate the very early version of a UI to do so. Speaking of the crafting, I keep getting this weird bug where the crafting UI pops up but it doesn't recognize any of my resources, as in I can only make health packs for the mission and then all my materials just disappear.
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dromer posted:Speaking of the crafting, I keep getting this weird bug where the crafting UI pops up but it doesn't recognize any of my resources, as in I can only make health packs for the mission and then all my materials just disappear. You may need to reload your UI with /rui, the interface is extremely buggy.
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Game looks pretty fun. Is any of the NPC warfare stuff in, or is it all just roaming around the open world shooting things and collecting resources?
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Coach Sport posted:Game looks pretty fun. Is any of the NPC warfare stuff in, or is it all just roaming around the open world shooting things and collecting resources? Its quite a sight to see an invasion of Chosen emerge from the melding, even more amazing when they catch you off guard and you're running for your life.
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I've got a twitch.tv thing going. Maybe you can watch and see if you like it. http://justin.tv/foonwad on or off, can't join team members or leaders because you run the chance of getting the connection bug. It's up and running again. It's off! done playing for a while. fromoutofnowhere fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Mar 24, 2013 |
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When they use words like vertical progression, the easiest thing to think of is levels. In something like wow, a level 50 has no chance against a level 60. By reducing vertical progression, the newer player has a better chance against against an older player, or a still significant impact to the game. Or take perhaps the last iteration of frames, where you were going to go t1->t2(better version of t1)->t3(better version of t2) etc. This is vertical progression. Horizontal progression means that there is a lot of options, while they don't increase in overall strength that much. Sort of like how in EVE you can max out a single skill rather quickly and be able to compete with someone who has been playing forever, but they have a lot of different options they can do, while the newer person is more limited/focused. If you have a lot of horizontal versus vertical progression, newer people will be able to contribute more, while older person will have more options, is the general gist of things. In the latest patch, it means that new frames they add won't necessarily be stronger than the current frames, but instead offer a different playstyle than existing frames. Compare the two current bio frames, and how they're drastically different, but not necessarily stronger than the other. That is horizontal progression, while a vertical progression would be where one is clearly weaker than the other. Sorry if I went on a bit too much on the point, scotch is great at making me type!
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This game looks really fun from fromoutofnowhere's stream. Too bad a ton of people still can't login to the drat game.
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whatspeakyou posted:This game looks really fun from fromoutofnowhere's stream. Too bad a ton of people still can't login to the drat game. All login issues have been fixed for me. Now I can't access garage or crafting
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I just get "beta.firefallthegame.com site error, please try again"
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I got on this morning and spent about four hours playing with everything working properly, but as time went by more and more people logged out and no one logged in until there was nobody left on the shard but me. Then I logged out and now I can't get back in.
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ZypherIM posted:Vertical progression Go pvp, it gives you upgraded gear automatically and it's all way way better than stock.
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Wadjamaloo posted:Except that's not what this patch has done at all. Customization is pretty non existent, so side grades aren't much of a thing. This is actually not the case at all. You can completely customize your frame including abilities, weapons, plating etc. For example, if you like Rhino but want one of your Accord Dreadnaught abilities to use in place of one of the default Rhino abilities, you can unequip it from your Dread and equip it with your Rhino or just craft a new one exclusively for your Rhino frame. It is very customizable it's just a new system with a bit of a learning curve.
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CLAM DOWN posted:All login issues have been fixed for me. Now I can't access garage or crafting There's a note on the login screen saying the character database is hosed and you most likely won't be able to log in. I haven't been able to play since the patch.
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Rasmussen posted:There's a note on the login screen saying the character database is hosed and you most likely won't be able to log in. I haven't been able to play since the patch. Yeah that was from before this current issue. No login happening for me right now
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whatspeakyou posted:I was really looking forward to giving this a shot, too. Yeah, huge patch so this is expected. It'll be fine in a few days for sure. Here's a pretty cool guide to crafting. I also added it to the OP.
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Edit: decided to move this over to the begging thread. Ignore.
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Zasraik posted:Edit: decided to move this over to the begging thread. Ignore. Going to edit the OP so that the begging thread is the only option. Was going to consolidate it initially but it's a bit messy.
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Got my invite, but it looks like their download page is down. The hiccups of a beta I guess.
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Zasraik posted:Got my invite, but it looks like their download page is down. The hiccups of a beta I guess. One frustrating thing about this (not directed at you, just in general!) is the reaction of a lot of people to the current problems. Understandably so, people these days (even me) expect a beta to be the completed product with a few last minute issues, more of a demo or preview than a beta. Firefall is an actual loving beta, especially with this latest update. Grummz (their CEO/COO) specifically said that the systems they put in with this huge revamp are incomplete and very early works in progress. They want to get feedback and ideas from the players and finish the new systems based on what people want. A lot of bitching and complaints have surfaced the last 2 days with people thinking this is a completed game of any kind, with no thought being given to the fact it's a work in progress. People haven't really seen a real beta in so long, we got so used to seeing them used as preview demos with no major changes coming. I hope most of us here at least can see past that.
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