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ravenkult posted:Hellraiser is boring as poo poo though, you're rarely bored watching a Cronenberg film. I don't know about boring. A lot of Barker's dread is derived from the bizarre being juxtaposed with the everyday life. I think the first two do well with this. Hellraiser really makes it believable that a skinless man that crawled out from hell is living in your average house. That his lover is feeding him bodies to rebuild his flesh. And once you've become used to that craziness, they summon demons from hell in S&M outfits that tear you apart with chains. Oh yeah, and a slimy muppet barfs maggots. Really I think people tend to overlook the Hellraiser films these days because the initial shock of how innovative the visuals were has worn off. The practical effects in that movie were groundbreaking. Especially the skinless body thing. I haven't seen it in a while, but we talked about the formation of Frank for MONTHS after we saw it the first time. It was absolutely terrifying in the theaters. I remember talking about the visuals in Hellraiser from a practical effects side the same way we did about Gollum from a CGI standpoint, as in How the gently caress did they do that?
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Alligator Horse posted:The only copy I can find of Ken Russell's 'The Devils' is missing the last 8 minutes. Fuuuuuuuuck. DON'T TALK ABOUT PIRACY, IDIOT.
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schwenz posted:I remember talking about the visuals in Hellraiser from a practical effects side the same way we did about Gollum from a CGI standpoint, as in How the gently caress did they do that? Ah, the good old days where you'd just find a dangerously underweight actor and throw him in a skinless mansuit.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:You liked it. Now let's hold hands.  I think the film's structure with the "dramatic reconstructions" of an event that never actually happened was a really interesting style choice. So interesting I think it's well hiding the fact the movie itself was kind of bad. But it's unique for me in that it's the first movie I've ever seen that when it was finished I just kind of went, "Huh. Well, alright."LtKenFrankenstein posted:Ah, the good old days where you'd just find a dangerously underweight actor and throw him in a skinless mansuit. They still do that with the dude who played Mama.
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weekly font posted:
Plus it has a few very effective and memorable moments, I thought.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Plus it has a few very effective and memorable moments, I thought. The entire last hypnotism was really well done as were the hard cuts between the "Found footage" and "recreations" (the biggest jump scare for me was the smash cut to the "real person" Milla Jovovich was portraying) but part of me wonders if the movie would have been significantly better as just one or the other.
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weekly font posted:The entire last hypnotism was really well done as were the hard cuts between the "Found footage" and "recreations" (the biggest jump scare for me was the smash cut to the "real person" Milla Jovovich was portraying) but part of me wonders if the movie would have been significantly better as just one or the other. I doubt it. For me at least the whole strange (and unique) hook of the movie added to make the 'Real person' footage more frightening. Not because it made it more believable, but somehow it still tricked your mind somewhat in taking it more seriously. So when it suddenly switched to that footage, you got just a little more uncomfortable.
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weekly font posted:They still do that with the dude who played Mama. And that guy from REC / REC 2 Which, holy poo poo, Medeiros was scary! e; Weird Javier Botet is listed as uncredited for REC 2. How do you not credit the scariest part of the movie?
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schwenz posted:And that guy from REC / REC 2 Doesn't the guy have Marfans Syndrome? I thought that explains his physique.
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Here is some behind the scenes footage from the Evil Dead remake. Of course it's very spoilery, but i found it interesting. The use of practical effects looks painstaking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSvZIwx79As Jane Levy is creepy as gently caress at 11 min in.
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WickedIcon posted:Honestly, I dislike the first Hellraiser quite a bit too; it's just straight up boring. It takes a really neat concept and basically just shoves it in the background of a mediocre vampire movie. However, I have to at least appreciate Hellraiser 2 for mostly ditching the aspect of the first movie that didn't really work and going absolutely balls out insane with the aspect that did work. How is Hellraiser a "mediocre vampire movie"?
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caiman posted:Go re-read my original post. EVERY movie is unoriginal to some degree. My problem with GE wasn't that it wasn't 100% original, but that it was nearly 100% UNoriginal. I do agree that it cribbed from MANY sources to the point where it was annoying, but it definitely had some original flavor to it. For one, the premise of a ghost-hunter reality show that's admittedly faked, yet runs into real ghosts, is something I don't recall seeing before. The time fuckery with the food and the electronic interference was also pretty cool. And although the shifting architecture is directly out of House of Leaves, I don't recall seeing that portrayed cinematically before. In fact one reason a lot of people like it is because it's the closest we'll probably ever get to a HoL movie since the author doesn't want it adapted. SlenderWhore posted:e: not to mention their murky motives for going to the asylum. Do they think it's real? Do they think it's fake? If they think it's real, then why oh why the hell would they go there? Also they're the richest college kids I've ever seen A disheartening amount of film school students are untalented rich kids with tuition on their parents' dime.
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Bonk posted:I do agree that it cribbed from MANY sources to the point where it was annoying, but it definitely had some original flavor to it. There's a great episode of Tales from the Crypt called Television Terror that has this exact premise. (I'm not trying to rekindle this debate, I just wanted to point out this fact)
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caiman posted:There's a great episode of Tales from the Crypt called Television Terror that has this exact premise. (I'm not trying to rekindle this debate, I just wanted to point out this fact) Best episode of the entire show. There's also an episode of a radio show called Lights Out from the early 40s about this, but it's not a TV anchor, it's a radio host.
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penismightier posted:Best episode of the entire show. Hmm, I may agree with that. Or at the very least it's in the top five. I think Death of Some Salesman tops it slightly.
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Is something wrong with me that the only problem I had with GE is the ghost "design"? Even that didn't bother me too much, but it certainly wasn't the first time that some supernatural being looks only slightly surreal on film before opening its mouth, then cut to the eyes going black and the mouth turning into a gaping maw.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Is something wrong with me that the only problem I had with GE is the ghost "design"? Even that didn't bother me too much, but it certainly wasn't the first time that some supernatural being looks only slightly surreal on film before opening its mouth, then cut to the eyes going black and the mouth turning into a gaping maw. Nothing is wrong with you, but you're absolutely correct in recognizing that cliche. The "gaping maw" convention is an overused, boring image - one of the many ways Grave Encounters showcases its utter lack of a single original idea.
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caiman posted:Hmm, I may agree with that. Or at the very least it's in the top five. I think Death of Some Salesman tops it slightly. Death of Some Salesmen is loving amazing.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Death of Some Salesmen is loving amazing. I just looked this up on YouTube and wow...just wow. Everyone needs to see this right now! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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bathhouse posted:Here is some behind the scenes footage from the Evil Dead remake. Of course it's very spoilery, but i found it interesting. The use of practical effects looks painstaking. I'm so excited for this movie that I cannot help but watch this!
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I am so thrilled that practical effects are making a comeback in horror movies. CGI hocus pocus has gotten so passé in the last 10-15 years. Fede Alvarez, Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi, you magnificent sons of bitches.
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Gonz posted:I am so thrilled that practical effects are making a comeback in horror movies. CGI hocus pocus has gotten so passé in the last 10-15 years. You and me both. Part of the fun of horror movies, for me, used to be trying to figure out how the special effects were done.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP9yqw3FPB0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Death of Some Salesmen. I just want to say that I hate puns and am so, so sorry for the intro. Edit: NSFW for boobies. Jigoku fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Mar 26, 2013 |
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Skywalker OG posted:I just want to say that I hate puns and am so, so sorry for the intro. A Tales from the Crypt episode that isn't bookended by bad puns is no true Tales from the Crypt 
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Skywalker OG posted:I just want to say that I hate puns and am so, so sorry for the intro. You've gotta be making GBS threads me.
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Wrong thread, I'm dumb
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Welp, looks like I'm gonna be watching Tales from the Crypt episodes all day. It goes without saying that Tim Curry rules, but man, Ed Begley Jr. loving rules. Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Mar 26, 2013 |
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frozenpeas posted:I just looked this up on YouTube and wow...just wow. Everyone needs to see this right now! Rewatching it led me to wonder why you don't see Tim Curry that much these days. He's great!
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Rewatching it led me to wonder why you don't see Tim Curry that much these days. He's great! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhuPn8_d0Q
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Is it bad that my favorite Tales from the Crypt is Forever Ambergris by a country mile? That episode is just mean as hell, and loving nasty too. (  for gore and I think nudity? it's been a bit)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXZTqxTAE9M
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WickedIcon posted:Is it bad that my favorite Tales from the Crypt is Forever Ambergris by a country mile? That episode is just mean as hell, and loving nasty too. Not at all, it's a great episode.
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Coincidentally, that was the next one I started watching after Death of Some Salesmen. It's a good'n all right, Roger Daltrey's great in it.
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Profondo Rosso posted:Very relevant clip I don't even have to click this to know. WickedIcon posted:Is it bad that my favorite Tales from the Crypt is Forever Ambergris by a country mile? That episode is just mean as hell, and loving nasty too. Oh, surprise Buscemi 
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Gonz posted:I am so thrilled that practical effects are making a comeback in horror movies. CGI hocus pocus has gotten so passé in the last 10-15 years. Is it making a comeback? I thought CGI was going stronger than ever and The Evil Dead remake was bucking that trend.
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I can't really pick a favorite Tales From the Crypt episode, it's really more like a top 3 in no particular order: 1) The haunted house news report episode mentioned above 2) The episode filmed from a video camera perspective of a group of neighborhood kids who think the coroner is suspicious/evil/something like that 3) The magician who gets the nine lives of a cat
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Dissapointed Owl posted:I don't even have to click this to know. Surprise rotting alive Buscemi. Oh, Tales from the Crypt. 
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Skywalker OG posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP9yqw3FPB0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Did I just... Did I just see Tim Curry rape Ed Begley Jr.?
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I didn't even realize it was him until that laugh at the end. Edit: I think Curry is unfairly typecast and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhuPn8_d0Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player Jigoku fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Mar 26, 2013 |
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Diogenes Ex posted:How is Hellraiser a "mediocre vampire movie"? Frank has a lot of traits that we would normally attribute to a vampire if we weren't distracted by all the insane special-effects and S&M gear. The whole thing where he starts off as a barely human, then regains more and more of his body by eating people is standard vampire/undead stuff.
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