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Numlock posted:Whats not true? That's one of the unavoidable results of what I was describing. I re-read the post and thought I disagreed with something, but ended up not doing it. I still think Lees are better than T34s of any stripe, but a weaker choice than Matildas because Lees are better against tanks but have the crippling penalty of being unable to maneuver and having an AT10 gun. You're pretty much paying for the main gun and the only H+C tank that has a worthwhile main gun is the SU-122. The Lee would be a lot more interesting with volley fire.
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Flippycunt posted:Fantastic mini's dude. Would you mind posting a couple links to where you ordered them from? Sure! I ordered everything from Brigade Games. The models themselves are a mix of Great War, Renegade, and Brigade's own line. There are a few other good WWI lines out there. In particular I'd like to pick up some "Honorable Lead Boiler Suit" howitzers at some point. quote:Also, what rules do you use for these guys? Either GW's Great War/Over the Top or Too Fat Lardies' Through the Mud and Blood. Both are very good. Great War is, unsurprisingly, a bit like 40k, but even more lethal. (Machineguns will cut infantry to shreds, fast.) Through the Mud is also excellent, but a very different game with more of an emphasis on morale and leadership. And here are the British I'm working on.  The next project after they're done is a trench terrain table...
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I am off to wargaming convention this weekend. I am taking Romanians to the FoW comp. My friend however is a re-enactor. He is playing toy soldiers at a 1 to 1 scale. This arrived at the docks outside my work today.   What is that Tiger going to do to that poor MkI!
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So has anyone ever considered making an entire Flames of War Division and then playing a large strategic campaign with it against another division? Have losses and such stay permanent. Edit: for that matter, what the hell kind of points value would you give for an entire division? 17K or something? MohawkSatan fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Mar 27, 2013 |
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Mar 27, 2013 08:14
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MohawkSatan posted:So has anyone ever considered making an entire Flames of War Division and then playing a large strategic campaign with it against another division? Have losses and such stay permanent. Probably better off playing a different rule set such as Blitzkrieg Commander if you want to do that.
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Serotonin posted:Probably better off playing a different rule set such as Blitzkrieg Commander if you want to do that. I realize it's completely insane, but it seems like it'd be fun to me. Push around chits on a board, each one representing a company and it's attached units, and fight a small strategic game with them.
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Thanks for saving me money, I was about to start FoW and these two things (Soviet armor being non-competitive and especially the company sweeping complaints under the rug) are unacceptable for me 
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MohawkSatan posted:I realize it's completely insane, but it seems like it'd be fun to me. Push around chits on a board, each one representing a company and it's attached units, and fight a small strategic game with them. Battlefront has released several campaign games like this in the past, and probably will again. You can use the rules the games come with (they're self-contained), or you can fight the battles with Flames of War rules when opposing forces meet in the same territory.
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Pierzak posted:Thanks for saving me money, I was about to start FoW and these two things (Soviet armor being non-competitive and especially the company sweeping complaints under the rug) are unacceptable for me Not true at all. The company takes feedback seriously.
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Mar 27, 2013 18:14
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What about Soviet armor? I have no desire to play anything else.
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The game is fun. If your buying into the game with the expectation to stomp everyone with little effect then that is the wrong reason to start. The Soviet assault gun lists are extremely good. T34/85 swarm has changed to be less swarmy.
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I don't want to play an Uberlist and be a tournament stomper, but on the other hand I see absolutely no point in playing an obviously underopowered/underdog faction and 90% of my WW2 interest lies in the  . If Soviets are still viable then I might look into FoW.
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I run Soviet Armor with no issues, but I also don't play against assholes (or in tournaments, but I repeat myself). Also Soviet Infantry Swarms are fun as gently caress.
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What about combined arms? Infantry with tank/artillery support, tank riders, that kind of thing? Also, what books/supplements I need to look into to run the Soviets? Pierzak fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Mar 27, 2013 |
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Mar 27, 2013 18:36
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Pierzak posted:What about combined arms? Infantry with tank/artillery support, tank riders, that kind of thing? The combined (or mech) list is honestly the best for any army you run. It's always a good idea to have infantry support for your tanks, and vice versa. I tend to use my infantry in armored cars, they speed over to dug-in infantry, root them out, then my tanks come in and back them up/hold the zone.
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Pierzak posted:I don't want to play an Uberlist and be a tournament stomper, but on the other hand I see absolutely no point in playing an obviously underopowered/underdog faction and 90% of my WW2 interest lies in the Having sat across the table from a few Russians after V3, they don't seem to be hampered in any way. But people are going to belly ache. I've had two soviet players argue with each other about Hen & Chicks being good/bad. Then again, the newest crop of players at my store are all getting into Brits/Germans ala Market Garden. The owner of the LGS is the only one running Soviets right now and he usually runs either an IS-85 list or some form of "God of War" artillery list. Either are really hard to deal with if you're not prepared for them. The other Soviet player is semi-permenantly attached to his computer playing World of Tanks and hasn't been seen in three months (thank God). Maybe after M.G. plays itself out we'll have some more people running armies that aren't in the Open Fire! boxset. We already have one Romanian player.
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We don't have a lot of American/British players. Many German, Russian, Polish (AK and AL). Different meta, goes with the territory  Speaking of, is anyone here interested in 17th century Poland? I'm wondering how well By Fire and Sword (the game, not the book/movie) is known abroad. Here it's huge, well-supported and has a thriving community. Pierzak fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Mar 27, 2013 |
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They are. These are mine. The photo is a few years old, I've almost doubled them since this was taken...  And, of course, Cossacks are even more fun... 
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Pierzak posted:Speaking of, is anyone here interested in 17th century Poland? I'm wondering how well By Fire and Sword (the game, not the book/movie) is known abroad. Here it's huge, well-supported and has a thriving community. It's pretty much unheard of, even if I've seen a link or two appear before on various forums. More so for using the miniatures for other wargames, though. It blows my mind that they have a Swedish translation for the website  , which is doubly amusing since any Swede who has even a remote chance of finding it is fluent in English.
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Yeah, apparently they still haven't released the English rules (scheduled for 20 April I think?). As for , the Swedish site is bare-bones and it was most likely some guy doing the research who went "hey I know the language, extra web presence won't hurt  "
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Pierzak posted:We don't have a lot of American/British players. Many German, Russian, Polish (AK and AL). Different meta, goes with the territory Heh, there's a video game called Mount and Blade: With Fire and Sword, but I've never heard of the miniature game. Also, how does the AK list play? when I eventually get into FoW I want to give them a try.
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What scale is Fire and Sword? looks like 1/72 but I cant tell.
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Pierzak posted:What about combined arms? Infantry with tank/artillery support, tank riders, that kind of thing? I ran a T-34/85 horde and it isn't nearly as fun as other lists. I wouldn't suggest doing it because you end up with a sort of simplistic list and gameplay style. I feel like I have a lot more options when I play my Grenadier Kompanie (Thank you open fire!) I think other soviet lists do well, and I recently bought a box of plastic soldier company summer uniform soviet infantry, and I'm looking to get some 45mm guns from them at some point too. Combined arms is probably the way to go, but I haven't actually tried it. Mostly US, Brit, and German players around here. Assault gun units might work, but I haven't run one of those either. FoW is fun though, and I'm sure they'll do something about soviets one of these days. For late war, the go to book is Red Bear.
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Beardless posted:Heh, there's a video game called Mount and Blade: With Fire and Sword, but I've never heard of the miniature game. Also, how does the AK list play? when I eventually get into FoW I want to give them a try. El Estrago Bonito posted:What scale is Fire and Sword? humannature posted:I ran a T-34/85 horde and it isn't nearly as fun as other lists. I wouldn't suggest doing it because you end up with a sort of simplistic list and gameplay style. I feel like I have a lot more options when I play my Grenadier Kompanie (Thank you open fire!) I think other soviet lists do well, and I recently bought a box of plastic soldier company summer uniform soviet infantry, and I'm looking to get some 45mm guns from them at some point too. Combined arms is probably the way to go, but I haven't actually tried it. Mostly US, Brit, and German players around here. Assault gun units might work, but I haven't run one of those either. FoW is fun though, and I'm sure they'll do something about soviets one of these days. For late war, the go to book is Red Bear. get murdered by state security after the war ends because war hero or not you're a relic and no longer needed in the communist paradise thanks, I'll look at Red Bear.
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LintMan posted:Not true at all. The company takes feedback seriously. Not in regards to soviets. If battlefront would address the issues raised by the player base in regards to the soviet national rules then there wouldn't even remotely be this amount of bitching. Pierzak posted:I don't want to play an Uberlist and be a tournament stomper, but on the other hand I see absolutely no point in playing an obviously underopowered/underdog faction and 90% of my WW2 interest lies in the You misunderstood what I was talking about, Soviets are by no means under powered or an underdog faction. Keep in mind what with flames of war when people bitch about Soviets they are bitching about Tankovy, which is just one list out of the many soviet lists that you can use. Tankovy just isn't as good as it was in V2, but its not unplayable. Also there are no such things as Uberlists and tournament stompers in FoW. The factors that matter most in determining who wins in FoW are in order, Deployment, player skill, the mission being played, luck, and finally the lists used.
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Just came back from setting up terrain for the NZ Nationals held by my local club. Now to find all my Romanians. I have 8 games over 3 days to look forward to. Can everyone wish me luck and make my rating rolls either 1-2 or 5-6? I need it to avoid the dreaded trained rating. If I have time I will post some pictures after each day. Here is my list from Red Bear: Romanian HQ with pfausts with 2x 60mm mortars, 2x Panzerschrecks 2 Full Motorised infantry platoons with command pfaust 4xHMGs 4x47mm silly looking guns 3x75mm AT guns 4x100mm artillery 4x150mm artillery 5x Allied Soviet T34/85
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So me and my buddy got our Plastic Soldier Company 15mm guys for FoW. Should I just basecoat them with Chaos Black like I did with my Warhammer dudes? I doubt spraying 15mm mans is any different from 28mm. But still, better to ask.
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Try to find a primer in the primary color of your army (uniform/tank paint). With real-world color schemes this will save you hours. VVV: Exactly. I know Army Painter has one, but I have no idea how it matches the historical color. Pierzak fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Pierzak posted:Try to find a primer in the primary color of your army (uniform/tank paint). With real-world color schemes this will save you hours. I guess I should find something that matches the germans gray color then? Since I bought germans.
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Speaking of that, it was finally a nice enough day yesterday that I got to base some of my Redcoats. Maybe I'll have time to paint them up soon. Also finished reading through the rulebook for Bolt Action. It's written by Alessio Salvatore (of Games Workshop fame), and the 40k influence is pretty evident, but it seems like a good game, anyway.
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Torabi posted:I guess I should find something that matches the germans gray color then? Since I bought germans. By which I mean I just sprayed mine black and did them by hand.
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I got my April copy of Wargames Illustrated today. Predictably, it's all about FoW Vietnam. The game doesn't look bad, but I have almost no interest in company/battalion level games of Vietnam. On the other hand, there's a great article about internet forums! 
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Greybeards' Guide to the Internets Thing the Grandkids Keep Talking About: Apparently They Do Miniature Wargames On There!
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Pierzak posted:We don't have a lot of American/British players. Many German, Russian, Polish (AK and AL). Different meta, goes with the territory Oh I love the stuff, any book that you can open at random and find a raid, duel, skirmish, escape, siege , or battle is ok with me. I've got the old Essex 15mm, maybe 20 stands worth. DBR or Musket and Lace seem best suited for rules in English. I really want Old Glory to get into the period, big cheap bags of gorgeous 15mm Cossacks, Reiters, Hussars and whatnot would be awesome.
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Oh joy. I gave Fire and Sword a cursory glance, then saw they were releasing the English version at Salute (huge UK show Im attending in 2 weeks time) with some starter army deals. Then being on holiday and having some reading time I started reading With Fire and Sword (the novel) on my Kindle (free from Amazon store if anyone else is interested) and now I am hooked. I see they sell skirmish forces that give a game thats playable in under an hour- how big a force is needed for a 2-3 hour game. Any chance you can post some army lists and give some more info Pierzak? Serotonin fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Apr 6, 2013 |
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Sure, I'll go see the OiM forum and get some fun/reasonable army lists so you can see the expected size/units. IIRC the larger "Podjazd" (foray?) starter sets are pretty good. Which factions should I look at?
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Polish for sure and then maybe Cossack or Moscow. Those forces would make sense historically as adversaries right? I've only just started the novel and my knowledge of the period is almost none!
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There are 4 size tiers, where the first one is big starter-sized, and the last one is designed for multiple players per side. 2-3 hours seems like tier 3, which sides of 4-6 regiments (~20-30 units of several bases each). You'll probably want tier 2, which has actual chain of command, can use all the scenarios, special abilities, camps (required in tier 3), but it's faster to learn. Unless you're planning to make a huge purchase at once, then ask the Wargamer people because I have absolutely no idea what goes into a large force also, ask about camps and field fortifications, you'll probably want those. Also, order markers.
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