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Is this an American thing? In the UK every house has an electric kettle. Do you guys seriously boil water in a pot on the stove?
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Mar 28, 2013 18:27
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I've used the coffee maker to those ends. No need to leave a kettle on the stove, and no chance of burning water. Just put water in it without coffee or a filter and bam, a coffee pot full of hot water.
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Mar 28, 2013 18:30
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Mr Beens posted:Is this an American thing? In the UK every house has an electric kettle. Do you guys seriously boil water in a pot on the stove? No, typically we use the microwave.
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Mar 28, 2013 18:37
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Mr Beens posted:Is this an American thing? In the UK every house has an electric kettle. Do you guys seriously boil water in a pot on the stove? Less tea, more coffee; everybody's got a drip coffee maker but electric kettles are much less common.
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Mar 28, 2013 18:51
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palecur posted:No, typically we use the microwave. I am guilty of this. 
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Mar 28, 2013 19:26
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Mr Beens posted:Is this an American thing? In the UK every house has an electric kettle. Do you guys seriously boil water in a pot on the stove? I boil mine in a stove-top kettle that has a whistle on the end.
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Mar 28, 2013 19:28
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Rasamune posted:I boil mine in a stove-top kettle that has a whistle on the end. Yep. Boiling in a pot is reserved for cooking.
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Mar 28, 2013 19:30
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01011001 posted:Yep. Boiling in a pot is reserved for cooking. Likewise for me, tea water is boiled in a kettle on the stove unless I'm really lazy and just use my sister's Keurig with no Kcup to pour out a small amount of hot water, but that's cheating. Also the sizes it pours aren't big enough for my tea/coffee mugs.
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Mar 28, 2013 19:55
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Yeah, we just use our Keurig when we need 10 oz or so of near-boiling water. For more, we have a Cuisinart stovetop tea kettle. dwarf74 fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Mar 29, 2013 |
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Mar 29, 2013 02:31
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dwarf74 posted:Yeah, we just use our Keurig when we need 10 oz or so of near-boiling water. Don't get me wrong, I love my cuisinart poo poo. You could tow a boat with the motor in my food processor. What do they do for a stovetop kettle? Also we had the cheapest IKEA teakettle possible when one of our friends bought us a nice electric one with a freestanding base out of mercy. Handy for cleaning poo poo too.
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Mar 29, 2013 05:26
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I do love electric kettles, but when I want to make a cup of tea? Microwave + Ingenuitea. God I love this thing. Microwave it to boiling, put in your loose-leaf tea (why are you not using loose-leaf, I bet you think those little baggies are great you goddamn heathen), wait a few minutes, put over mug, enjoy delicious tea. The easiest way to enjoy really good tea that I've found.
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Mar 29, 2013 05:44
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Yeah, you boil the water first for various reasons but then you let it cool appropriately for the tea you're using. In degrees Celsius, you want about 80 for green tea, 95-99 for black tea (just under boiling), and less than 80 for most other teas, down to like 65 for white tea. And for gently caress's sake let it steep for 2-3 minutes before you drink it. And don't try to change the strength of the tea by changing the steep time, change it by changing the amount of leaves you use. There's nothing wrong with tea bags, they're just fine if you follow the tea making procedure properly. But better yet, use one of these or something like it:  Edit: Do you really boil the water in the microwave? My granny would have cut you for that.
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Mar 29, 2013 06:22
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Winson_Paine posted:Don't get me wrong, I love my cuisinart poo poo. You could tow a boat with the motor in my food processor. What do they do for a stovetop kettle? Honestly, I'm not impressed, and it was super expensive for what amounts to a basic metal container which sits on our stove and does nothing most of the time. But my wife wanted it enough to put it on our wedding registry, so...
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Mar 29, 2013 06:26
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Darwinism posted:(why are you not using loose-leaf, I bet you think those little baggies are great you goddamn heathen). This is Britain, our tea-bags are actually of decent quality TYVM (not that I personally drink tea, but I feel the need to stand up for my nation or some poo poo). And yeah, everyone should get an electric kettle, they're so much more efficient and quick than boiling on the stove, don't waste power/gas doing that. Is it just me, or did Next dev go quite quiet last week? I didn't see anything much to be horrified about.
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Mar 29, 2013 11:31
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thespaceinvader posted:This is Britain, our tea-bags are actually of decent quality TYVM (not that I personally drink tea, but I feel the need to stand up for my nation or some poo poo). They were probably prepping and participating in PAX-East, which is something I wish I was doing.
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Mar 29, 2013 12:12
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thespaceinvader posted:And yeah, everyone should get an electric kettle, they're so much more efficient and quick than boiling on the stove, don't waste power/gas doing that. Ramen noodles, ahoy! 
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Mar 29, 2013 15:14
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Aren't electic kettles less common in the States because they don't have decent 240v ring mains? Or is it just one of those "the Brits do this, so we must do SOMETHING ELSE" things like holding the fork in the wrong hand or dropping perfectly good vowels from words? D&D Next: Kettlechat.
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Mar 29, 2013 15:36
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I'm betting it's the coffee vs. tea thing Has anyone dug into the maths and poo poo on the new classes? I know I said I'd start giving a gently caress if/when they released Paladins and Rangers but I just can't be bothered to navigate the dumpster fire that is Wizards.com Also, I hate reading. Unless it's forum posts. And even then, they need to not be  tl;dr I should probably get checked for A.D.D.
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Mar 29, 2013 15:46
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Payndz posted:Aren't electic kettles less common in the States because they don't have decent 240v ring mains? Or is it just one of those "the Brits do this, so we must do SOMETHING ELSE" things like holding the fork in the wrong hand or dropping perfectly good vowels from words? Coffee is more popular than tea, and most of us are lazy and have brewers for that.
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Mar 29, 2013 16:01
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AlphaDog posted:Edit: Do you really boil the water in the microwave? My granny would have cut you for that. The whole point to a microwave is heating water; that's, like, its core operating principle. It takes 88 seconds and I can heat just one glass' worth. An electric kettle takes at least 4 minutes and a 1 liter minimum. Also, the right brewing temperature for tea is 'whatever temperature will be just barely not too hot to drink 120 seconds after putting the tea in'. That applies to all teas, infusions, tisanes, and whatnot.
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Mar 29, 2013 16:36
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Payndz posted:Aren't electic kettles less common in the States because they don't have decent 240v ring mains? Or is it just one of those "the Brits do this, so we must do SOMETHING ELSE" things like holding the fork in the wrong hand or dropping perfectly good vowels from words? This is the cooking thread, and hands down this is more interesting than anything anyone has to say on Next. I don't think electric kettles are popular here because tea isn't, or isn't as popular as it is over there. Like, I have at least three ways to make a cup of coffee in the house and two different appliances related to coffee making rather than the electric kettle which gets used for iced tea sometimes but that is about it. Actually on a related issue since we do attend nerd conventions, there should be discussion over things that can be made in a hotel room that has a coffee maker and a microwave. It is rather a lot, and can save you dough on a long weekend. By way of example, you can make both hot dogs and ramen in a coffee maker JUST FINE. You can poach an egg in one too, if you are good at poaching eggs.
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Mar 29, 2013 16:46
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Back when I was in scouts, boiling hotdogs in a pot of Lipton chicken noodle was a staple. Some people like soup, some people like hotdogs, everybody wins. I imagine this could be concocted in a coffee maker.
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Mar 29, 2013 17:13
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P.d0t posted:Back when I was in scouts, boiling hotdogs in a pot of Lipton chicken noodle was a staple. Oh man, hot dog noodle soup.
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Mar 29, 2013 17:17
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palecur posted:The whole point to a microwave is heating water; that's, like, its core operating principle. It takes 88 seconds and I can heat just one glass' worth. An electric kettle takes at least 4 minutes and a 1 liter minimum.
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Mar 29, 2013 17:18
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Payndz posted:I just boiled exactly one mug's-worth of water (for coffee, not tea) in under two minutes. America is clearly behind on the kettle technology curve. Necessity is the mother of invention? 
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Mar 29, 2013 17:24
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Payndz posted:I just boiled exactly one mug's-worth of water (for coffee, not tea) in under two minutes. America is clearly behind on the kettle technology curve. Really, though, most Americans put no thought into how their water gets boiled. Between the stovetop, the microwave, and coffee makers, there's usually little reason to have a device dedicated to that function. There's a D&D Next joke in this analogy, somewhere.
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Mar 29, 2013 17:32
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Payndz posted:Aren't electic kettles less common in the States because they don't have decent 240v ring mains? Or is it just one of those "the Brits do this, so we must do SOMETHING ELSE" things like holding the fork in the wrong hand or dropping perfectly good vowels from words? At work we just have one of the plastic Proctor-Silex ones that Amazon sells for like $15 and it's held up great. It basically only gets used by me and two or three other tea drinkers, plus one or two people who make more personal and elaborate arrangements for coffee. Electric kettles aren't hard to find in the U.S.--they're certainly easier to find than loose tea--but I think most people get their hot caffeiene by way of a coffee maker instead.
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Mar 29, 2013 17:39
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dwarf74 posted:Really, though, most Americans put no thought into how their water gets boiled. Between the stovetop, the microwave, and coffee makers, there's usually little reason to have a device dedicated to that function. I'm sure it has to do with multiclassing or niche protection
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Mar 29, 2013 17:39
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P.d0t posted:I'm sure it has to do with multiclassing or niche protection Yeah its only an issue if you didn't spec as a wizard because then you won't have the income of skill points to split on numerous, expensive niche skills and products. Its compounded by the fact that wizards don't have to worry about day to day struggle or labor so they can use their endlessly accruing skill points wastefully instead of having to dedicate to a single thing and never spec out of it like a warrior.
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Mar 29, 2013 17:46
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If there is one thing I don't mind about D&DNext, it's that they're going with the "gently caress having so many goddamn classes" mentality. ("Paladins encompass 3 classes  ")Honestly I like the idea of multiclassing in a "simple core" game where there is like... as many classes as the average Diablo game. Take levels in Spells guy and Animal Companion guy to make Close Approximation of Druid-guy. or something. P.d0t fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Mar 29, 2013 |
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Mar 29, 2013 17:54
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Hotel cooking talk: If your hotel has an iron, you can totally make grilled cheese on it. Just watch for cheese melting out the sides and making a mess
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Mar 29, 2013 18:51
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Sort of hotel cooking: Before you go on vacation, shred cabbage and put it in a bucket of brine in a cool place in your house before you go. When you get back from your trip, you have sauerkraut! I did this before my trip to Florida. When I got home from Florida, I put 5 lbs of brisket in some brine in my fridge. 5 days later, I now have homemade corned beef, homemade sauerkraut and I've just whipped up my own 1000 islands dressing and baked some nice bread for the best loving Reuben I've ever had. I'm eating it right now and typing with my greasy corned beef fingers.
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Mar 29, 2013 19:30
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Winson_Paine posted:You can make both hot dogs and ramen in a coffee maker JUST FINE. You can poach an egg in one too, if you are good at poaching eggs. I'f you're going to boil a hot dog you might as well just loving microwave the drat thing.
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Mar 31, 2013 06:23
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Elfgames posted:I'f you're going to boil a hot dog you might as well just loving microwave the drat thing. When I was a kid, I used to fill a mason jar with water, put two hot dogs in it, and put it in the microwave for 1 minute to have nicely cooked and not dry hotdogs. If you did that with 1 hotdog, it would split. Now I have a grill, though. On the electric kettle -- ours is drat quick. 1-2 minutes, tops, and it automatically stops at the right heat so I can do something else without it boiling over. I am in the US. I like the idea of the exploration rules in Next, but it hearkens back to the old "roll for random encounter" days and right now they read as very haphazard. I think some polish will make it a neat system.
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Mar 31, 2013 13:46
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It's amazing how many people never use the lower power settings on a microwave. It's worth it! (To be fair, I just started using them last year myself.) They stretch open the time window between "acceptably heated" and "dessicated burnt husk", and if you have a quick defrost setting (you probably do) get ready to save all your thawing time.
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Mar 31, 2013 15:51
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moths posted:It's amazing how many people never use the lower power settings on a microwave. It's worth it! (To be fair, I just started using them last year myself.) They stretch open the time window between "acceptably heated" and "dessicated burnt husk", and if you have a quick defrost setting (you probably do) get ready to save all your thawing time. A thousand times this. It is a good way to avoid "biting into pizza pop that is scalding hot on the inside but cool to the touch on the outside" having just gotten a new microwave, though, I can safely say gently caress every microwave nowadays having 1 through 5 be "autostart X# minutes" because typing in the time manually and setting the power is superior to pressing "time cook" before doing all that. really, the "+30 seconds" button should be all you need for laziness purposes.
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Mar 31, 2013 19:36
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Wow. I hope this is an April Fools joke. http://wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ll/20130401 quote:Apprentice Tier: This change is the biggest shift from how you've seen the game so far. What we've treated as 1st-level characters in D&D Next before now shift to become 3rd-level characters, with two new levels inserted into each class that allow you to gradually gain the full abilities of a character. That's right. Want to play D&D and not have a meat grinder? Want competent characters at the start? You only get to play 18 levels now and have to start with 3rd level pcs, because the Grognards own 1st and 2nd level now. Or am I spinning this too negatively?
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Apr 1, 2013 16:47
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Eh? It sounds like they're trying to clearly define various entry-points into the system. While I think its a mistake to tell people they pretty much can't play 1st level characters if they want to play a certain way, the idea is solid. It sounds like an idea that would finally fulfill their stated design goals of making everyone happy. Really the only people who get really shafted are the Legacy Tier people. According to his expected progression mechanism, if you started at 16th level and played to 20th, that's (4levels x 3session) 12 sessions before you max out. That's weird. e: Also, probably April 1st'd. e: D&D Next: I can't tell if it's a joke.
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Apr 1, 2013 17:17
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Level 1 and 2? What the gently caress is this WoW bullshit? Level 0 commoners or I'm boycotting Wizbro$.
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SilverMike posted:Level 1 and 2? What the gently caress is this WoW bullshit? Level 0 commoners or I'm boycotting Wizbro$. New concept: You start the game at negative 10.
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