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Agean90 posted:But this combined with all the grognardy poo poo has this from a possible byy to me ignoring it entirely. Welcome to playing a real strategy game. I hope it even has hexes and takes 2 hours per turn like Grey's WitP Let's Play  Don't be afraid of the grognard. Embrace it. It is... inevitable. I seriously hope that every single piece of a tank/ship/plane/gun/etc is modeled like a grognard game in EvW. Necroneocon fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Yeah, I don't quite get the doomsaying just yet. "They made a dumb joke and they have questionable priorities about what their DDs should focus on" is really the worst we can say about them so far. I mean, if that's enough for you to not want it, that's fine, but it's a long way from being Magna Mundi. Sure, maybe it will be poo poo, maybe the way their DDs are going does mean it's just a war game with no real "Cold War" stuff, I don't know, but comparing something to MM should be a horrendous curse cast only on the biggest of shitshows. I'm going to reserve my judgements until the DDs are coming to a close, because I think this may be a case of showing off the flashy cool stuff (i.e., wars and explosions) first to drum up interest. Since they started going into detail on the politics on the last one, I'm going to give it a few more DDs before I make up my mind one way or the other.
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Speaking of horrible Paradox games, has anyone played Communist China in Iron Cross? Apparently it has a unique Long March event chain which I would like to check out. But, well, you know, it's Iron Cross. I was quite disappointed with Darkest Hour since it has the CCP starting off in Yan'an in 1933.
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I doubt EvW is going to be like Magna Mundi in that it's buggy, crashy mess that isn't even going to be released, but I'm starting to doubt that EvW is going to be a good/realistic representation of Cold War politics. I'm betting somewhere between "too much war" and "too much complexity for little actual realistic outcome"V for Vegas posted:Speaking of horrible Paradox games, has anyone played Communist China in Iron Cross? Apparently it has a unique Long March event chain which I would like to check out. But, well, you know, it's Iron Cross. I was quite disappointed with Darkest Hour since it has the CCP starting off in Yan'an in 1933. The last time I played Iron Cross, Communist China took over all of China, plus kicked the Japanese out of Manchuria and Korea before 1939.
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Yeah, I don't quite get the doomsaying just yet. "They made a dumb joke and they have questionable priorities about what their DDs should focus on" is really the worst we can say about them so far. I mean, if that's enough for you to not want it, that's fine, but it's a long way from being Magna Mundi. The MRA jokingly posted:Key game elements include: They suuuuure did 
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I'm trying to get my steam version of EU: Rome to run outside of Program Files (which seems to the be one of the only ways to get Reign of the Ancients working these days  ), but whenever I move the game directory to C:\euromeblahblah, I get Application Load Errors when trying to launch the game. I think this is some sort of registry problem, but I can't find a working solution - does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing?
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Wolfgang Pauli posted:http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?679738-East-vs.-West-WOMENS-s-Edition!
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Vegetable posted:"Economical income from our ingenious economical system" who taught this champ how to write English? That whole post is a loving embarrassment. I don't know, I rather like the idea of humanity "tittering on the brink of annihilation."
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Yeah, I don't quite get the doomsaying just yet. "They made a dumb joke and they have questionable priorities about what their DDs should focus on" is really the worst we can say about them so far. I mean, if that's enough for you to not want it, that's fine, but it's a long way from being Magna Mundi. Yeah, I haven't religiously been following the development diaries, but has there even been that much information released about the game so far? There have been a couple of warning signs, but the 'absolute poo poo would not buy 0/10' reactions seem like the usual goon hyperbole. Vegetable posted:"Economical income from our ingenious economical system" who taught this champ how to write English? That whole post is a loving embarrassment. It's not that bad. Except maybe for this one: quote:Experience time ticks the same way as male gamers where time ticks away at the same rate as for anyone else without delay I get what they're trying to say, but still...what? Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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I wouldn't be too concerned about the sometimes poor English you see in dev diaries. Even games developed by PDS have odd syntax in their dev diaries, and the guys making EvW are basically a glorified mod team, you can't expect everyone working on the game to have perfect English. The entire April Fools joke was a poo poo idea (especially compared to the awesome EU4 one~), but on the Paradox Crisis Scale from Capitalists Builds a Factroy to Ubik Takes Over Clausewitz Engine, this rates pretty low.
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BBJoey posted:I wouldn't be too concerned about the sometimes poor English you see in dev diaries. Even games developed by PDS have odd syntax in their dev diaries, and the guys making EvW are basically a glorified mod team, you can't expect everyone working on the game to have perfect English. The entire April Fools joke was a poo poo idea (especially compared to the awesome EU4 one~), but on the Paradox Crisis Scale from Capitalists Builds a Factroy to Ubik Takes Over Clausewitz Engine, this rates pretty low.
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So I have a Spotify playlist called "Mapgame" that is basically just a bunch of World War One/World War Two period music that I listen to while I play HoI/DH/Vicky2. I popped open Last.fm and apparently like three of my top 8 artists are now random singers from the 30s and 40s. Paradox has taken my nerdery to new levels.
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So the best argument in favour of EvW right now is 'well they might show us some good stuff at some point in the future?' Sadly that's not a massively convincing argument, particularly as everything we have scene gives is no indication that this good stuff is actually coming- they're clearly far more interested in weapons minutiae than the political/espionage aspects of the Cold War.You know, that stuff that makes the Cold War the Cold War. And honestly what we've seen of the political system was so badly explained that I'm not 100% sure how it actually works. Magna Mundi comparisons are hyperbole sure but I don't think the bar for a decent game should be set at 'did not implode as spectacularly as Magna Mundi'.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:If it was only odd syntax I doubt people would be commenting, it's the fact that someone who clearly does not have a solid grasp of the language is trying to write in a style that a lot of native speakers can't even pull off that well. That doesn't speak well to knowing your limits, and knowing your limits is pretty drat important. Ubik didn't know his limits, and look what happened to Magna Mundi. Then of course there's the way the game seems to focus on weird stuff, or at least the developers focusing on it in their presentation, which also sets off alarm bells. Sure, it might not be proof that it's as bad as Magna Mundi, but it doesn't need to be anywhere near Magna Mundi to be poo poo. I can't believe this is a real post. The person doesn't write English at a level you find appropriate so the entire team is bad at their job? For a thread that just got up in arms about a joke satirizing attitudes towards women in the timeframe this game takes place, the suddenly claimed correlation between English and competency is shocking. I think everyone should step away from the ledge when it comes to East vs. West. I understand being skeptical because of the dev diaries, but to say its completely off your radar now, after seeing a small fraction of the game, is just overreacting.
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Sheriff posted:I can't believe this is a real post. The person doesn't write English at a level you find appropriate so the entire team is bad at their job? For a thread that just got up in arms about a joke satirizing attitudes towards women in the timeframe this game takes place, the suddenly claimed correlation between English and competency is shocking. I think everyone should step away from the ledge when it comes to East vs. West. I understand being skeptical because of the dev diaries, but to say its completely off your radar now, after seeing a small fraction of the game, is just overreacting. He's saying that the developers' failed attempt at satire revealed a certain lack of self-awareness, and that this could indicate that they don't know their own limits. It's a bit of a stretch, but he's not saying that you need to speak perfect English in order to develop a good game. In fact, I think A Buttery Pastry is Danish himself. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Phlegmish posted:He's saying that the developers' failed attempt at satire revealed a certain lack of self-awareness, and that this could indicate that they don't know their own limits. It's a bit of a stretch, but he's not saying that you need to speak perfect English in order to develop a good game. In fact, I think A Buttery Pastry is Danish himself. As for this not indicating problems with the entire team, that's absolutely true, but it doesn't need to. Again, Magna Mundi seems to have had a bunch of team members frantically trying to get more Paradox oversight because they realized something was terribly wrong, but a few key players basically hosed the whole thing up on their own. I'm not saying that it's absolutely going to be the case, maybe the game is going to be fine/fantastic, I'm just not holding out hope anymore.
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Drone posted:So I have a Spotify playlist called "Mapgame" that is basically just a bunch of World War One/World War Two period music that I listen to while I play HoI/DH/Vicky2. I popped open Last.fm and apparently like three of my top 8 artists are now random singers from the 30s and 40s. Do you happen to have a link to that playlist? I could really go for something like that too.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Do you happen to have a link to that playlist? I could really go for something like that too. This work? It's still a work-in-progress, but I'm adding more. http://open.spotify.com/user/sa_drone/playlist/5vINbatDHPib4oO6U0R3a0
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Drone posted:This work? It's still a work-in-progress, but I'm adding more. Perfect! Thanks! If anyone else has any playlists they use for paradox or grandstrategy games you should probably post it here too.
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Rannos22 posted:They suuuuure did Are you seriously not getting the joke here?
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Fister Roboto posted:Are you seriously not getting the joke here? Yeah I get that the joke is that both versions are the same. Because "haha, women are supposed to be wearing pink in the kitchen not playing GAMES!"
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Apparently every team made an April Fools joke of their own and, of course, not all of them work. The zombies expansion for Crusader Kings is in between lazy joke and something that may actually happen. The East vs West one, well, caused a large derrail in here but anyone can see why it was bad. It is however tragic that their Musical video has less than 7000 views. That one has actual effort and is original and, yet, nearly nobody noticed it.
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Rannos22 posted:Yeah I get that the joke is that both versions are the same. Because "haha, women are supposed to be wearing pink in the kitchen not playing GAMES!" See I thought it was "haha, other companies try to make products 'for women' by making them pink and frilly because that's what they think women like." But I guess you're right, whoever wrote that is totally a MRA redditor atheist pedophile or whatever.
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Hey Paradox Devs, getting away from the April Fools debacle, have you thought of renaming the West African Paganism religion group to Yorubaism? It fits, pretty much. Plus it leads to more colorful events, there's plenty of information around on rites and ceremonies of that religion. Could probably get a more sensible looking symbol for the region too, not to meant religion-head names for reformed branches when the Old Gods comes out. They're the only pagans just called "pagans" now, and it looks a bit silly. Rejected Fate fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Yeah having a Pagan religion just irks me. It would be like having Miaphysite just being called "Christian". I know that west Africa did not have just one religion everyone was, but if you could at least find one major pagan religion in the area that was big around this time it would be cool.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Perfect! Thanks! Echoing this, since my mailbox just got spammed by a bunch of people following my Mapgame playlist. Not that it's unwelcome or anything, but I want to add more stuff to it and I have no idea where to start. It also doesn't help that Spotify's non-English selection isn't... great. I'd love more French stuff besides Edith Piaf, and more German stuff.
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Rejected Fate posted:Hey Paradox Devs, getting away from the April Fools debacle, have you thought of renaming the West African Paganism religion group to Yorubaism? It fits, pretty much. Plus it leads to more colorful events, there's plenty of information around on rites and ceremonies of that religion. Could probably get a more sensible looking symbol for the region too, not to meant religion-head names for reformed branches when the Old Gods comes out. West Africans get their own religion in TOG.
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Wiz posted:West Africans get their own religion in TOG. Yeah, I saw that a moment before now as I looked at a page previous in the CK2 thread. Well that's pretty cool, are there some flavored events for those regions too? I know divination and telling of fortune are pretty central to some faiths, such as Yorubaism, in that region. Anything like that might be cool. Something like "The priest have foreseen you are destined for greatness" and you get a high percent chance for Pride and a smaller chance for Ambitious.
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Saoshyant posted:It is however tragic that their Musical video has less than 7000 views. That one has actual effort and is original and, yet, nearly nobody noticed it.
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I feel like getting back into Paradox games now that I supposedly have time. I got the basics of Hoi3 and CK2 still melts my brain. My buddy told me that March of the Eagles is the "easiest" paradox game so far. As in, easy to learn but still is challenging that is. Is this true? Since it would be nice to play a Paradox game that isn't Hoi3 without having to watch two hours of video tutorials on youtube.
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Torabi posted:I feel like getting back into Paradox games now that I supposedly have time. I got the basics of Hoi3 and CK2 still melts my brain. My buddy told me that March of the Eagles is the "easiest" paradox game so far. As in, easy to learn but still is challenging that is. Is this true? Since it would be nice to play a Paradox game that isn't Hoi3 without having to watch two hours of video tutorials on youtube. Yeah, if you can understand HoI3, MotE will be no problem. Each button on the interface has a tiny button next to it describing what exactly it does and what effect that has on the game. It is easily the most accessible game they've made yet.
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Yeah, if you can understand HoI3, MotE will be no problem. Each button on the interface has a tiny button next to it describing what exactly it does and what effect that has on the game. It is easily the most accessible game they've made yet. I just noticed the game has a demo. So I'll give that a go.
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Torabi posted:I feel like getting back into Paradox games now that I supposedly have time. I got the basics of Hoi3 and CK2 still melts my brain. My buddy told me that March of the Eagles is the "easiest" paradox game so far. As in, easy to learn but still is challenging that is. Is this true? Since it would be nice to play a Paradox game that isn't Hoi3 without having to watch two hours of video tutorials on youtube. Wait, you get Hoi3 but CK2 "melts your brain"? I think you are opposite me. And yeah March of the Eagles is pretty accessible, but there isn't much to it than war, and the war isn't as complex as something like HOI so it's kinda shallow if you ask me. I'd try sticking with CK2, even if things go wrong it's pretty fun to just go with the crazy flow of things.
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Fister Roboto posted:But I guess you're right, whoever wrote that is totally a MRA redditor atheist pedophile or whatever. I'm pretty sure that's unironically right.
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So the preorder bonus for HoD is Victoria? Does anyone buying a V2 expansion not already have that?
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Sheriff posted:I can't believe this is a real post. The person doesn't write English at a level you find appropriate so the entire team is bad at their job? For a thread that just got up in arms about a joke satirizing attitudes towards women in the timeframe this game takes place, the suddenly claimed correlation between English and competency is shocking. I think everyone should step away from the ledge when it comes to East vs. West. I understand being skeptical because of the dev diaries, but to say its completely off your radar now, after seeing a small fraction of the game, is just overreacting. These guys do one DD a month. In almost half a year we haven't seen anything of this game that looks promising. Just the slim hope of "maybe they're just bad at marketing but the game's really good." Saoshyant posted:Apparently every team made an April Fools joke of their own and, of course, not all of them work. The zombies expansion for Crusader Kings is in between lazy joke and something that may actually happen. The East vs West one, well, caused a large derrail in here but anyone can see why it was bad. It is however tragic that their Musical video has less than 7000 views. That one has actual effort and is original and, yet, nearly nobody noticed it.  Maybe I'm just a snob because I work in ~~theatre~~. That's probably it. I'm why we can't have nice things 
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