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greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



Kolta posted:

I got another question that hopefully some goons can shed some light on. How hard/easy is it going to be for me to figure out the public transport system. I know every country is going to be different but for example, when I get to the Vienna International Airport and want to take a bus to my hotel, how do I go about doing this? Is it going to be obvious and easy, or am I going to go insane and find myself at total opposite ends of the country.

Also anyone ever take a bus from Vienna to Bratislava and or Nitra? I figure it's pretty easy to figure out once you find the bus terminal.

Take the hydrofoil down the Danube to Bratislava, takes about an hour and a half I think.

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Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort

Kolta posted:

when I get to the Vienna International Airport and want to take a bus to my hotel, how do I go about doing this?

You approach the tourist information desk or the bus company desk.

vetinari100
Nov 8, 2009

> Make her pay.

Kolta posted:

Also anyone ever take a bus from Vienna to Bratislava and or Nitra? I figure it's pretty easy to figure out once you find the bus terminal.

There's a bus leaving every hour from Sudtirolerplatz for Bratislava, alternatively there's also a train from nearby Hauptbahnhof (main railway station), also every hour. You'll have to take another bus/train from Bratislava to Nitra.

enki42
Jun 11, 2001
#ATMLIVESMATTER

Put this Nazi-lover on ignore immediately!
In general though, don't stress too much about figuring out local transit in different cities. For the most part, everything in Europe is arranged much better and is more comprehensible than it is in North America. And language is almost never an issue - almost every ticket machine or map is going to be bilingual. It's probably worthwhile to figure out what stop you need to get off at before you leave for a new city, but beyond that it's definitely something you can figure out when you're in the city.

Funny that you should mention it, but Vienna was one city where the airport - local transit connection wasn't blindingly obvious, but it's still not difficult at all. You'd want to take the U-Bahn rather than a bus if you're taking public transit though.

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Kolta posted:

I got another question that hopefully some goons can shed some light on. How hard/easy is it going to be for me to figure out the public transport system. I know every country is going to be different but for example, when I get to the Vienna International Airport and want to take a bus to my hotel, how do I go about doing this? Is it going to be obvious and easy, or am I going to go insane and find myself at total opposite ends of the country.

Also anyone ever take a bus from Vienna to Bratislava and or Nitra? I figure it's pretty easy to figure out once you find the bus terminal.

When you get out into the main lobby of the airport, it's a narrow but very long hallway with a tall ceiling and a ton of people standing around waiting for people coming off the planes. Turn left, go down the ramp and follow the signs for the S-Bahn/City Airport Train. You want to take S7 towards Floridsdorf, and get out at Landstrasse/Wien Mitte and then transfer to the U-Bahn(s) you need to find your hotel. The cost will be 4 euros from the airport all the way to your hotel, regardless of transfers or duration/length. You can buy your ticket with cash or a credit card in the yellow machines on the walls. The ticket selection will be a little confusing but don't get flustered. It should be exactly 4 euros. You should be able to type in your final destination's U-Bahn stop name and get the appropriate ticket.

You can take the City Airport Train for about twice the price and cut 2 or 3 minutes off your commute. I would recommend just taking the S7.

greazeball posted:

Take the hydrofoil down the Danube to Bratislava, takes about an hour and a half I think.

This is a fairly expensive option that most people say to avoid. I've never done it so I can't vouch for it either way.

enki42 posted:

You'd want to take the U-Bahn rather than a bus if you're taking public transit though.

Whenever possible, definitely.

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



DNova posted:

This is a fairly expensive option that most people say to avoid. I've never done it so I can't vouch for it either way.

I did it as a novelty because there just aren't too many opportunities to arrive in a new town by water. Yeah, you could take 3 bus trips for the price but I don't think €23 is all that expensive. The boats aren't anything special but how often do you get to travel by hydrofoil?

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

greazeball posted:

I did it as a novelty because there just aren't too many opportunities to arrive in a new town by water. Yeah, you could take 3 bus trips for the price but I don't think €23 is all that expensive. The boats aren't anything special but how often do you get to travel by hydrofoil?

How's the scenery?

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



DNova posted:

How's the scenery?



There were a couple nice spots with ruins like this. I just felt a bit more connected to the history of the region because the Danube was obviously a hugely important trade route. The castle over Bratislava was pretty impressive too I remember (but the windows in the front of the boat were filthy so I didn't get any good shots coming in).

3peat
May 6, 2010

gently caress COREY PERRY posted:

From early May to mid June I'm planning to backpack from Prague to Istanbul, taking about 40-ish days or so. I'm basically thinking of trying to hit most of the capitals of countries along the way - Vienna, Budapest, Zagreb, Sarajevo, Belgrade, Bucharest, Sofia, Skopje, and then like Thessaloniki or something before Istanbul. Any places along the way I should make sure to hit? Places from that list to avoid or not spend much time in? Advice in general?

There's nothing really interesting in Bucharest, unless you wanna see Casa Poporului, which is the biggest and most luxurious civilian building in the world with its one million cubic meters of marble, thousands of tons of crystal and doors made from wood gifted by Mobutu Seseseko, etc. There's also some museums and nightlife I guess.

If you're coming into the country from the west, a better idea is to go through the major Transylvanian cities, ie Cluj, Sibiu, Sighisoara and Brasov. That area inside the Carpathian arc is the most beautiful region you'll pass through in your journey and there's a lot to see, from oldass castles and german villages/towns, to unspoilt nature and wildlife (tons of bears and wolves). If you find it open, try Transfagarasan which is one of the best roads in the world, pretty much a formula 1 circuit carved into a mountain.

Oh and I guess if you aint got anything better to do, you could also check out Constanta (my home city), it's the biggest romanian resort on the black sea so it gets crammed with tourists from may and you cant throw a stone without hitting the ferrari or lamborghini of the romanian nuveau rich who come here in herds during the summer to flaunt their wealth. But it's also a 2600 years old city that over time belonged to greeks, romans, byzantines, ottomans and others so there's still roman ruins, ottoman mosques, and stuff like that; tho you'd get much better versions of that stuff in Turkey I guess.

Rashomon
Jun 21, 2006

This machine kills fascists
My wife and I are going to go to Iceland for probably 6-7 days this July. What do you guys recommend? Things we like: museums, cultural/historical places, interesting architecture, cool local restaurants, locally made art/clothing/other kinds of shopping, and of course seeing all the amazing landscapes. What's the best to do with about a week?

Things n Stuff
Jun 7, 2005
Degrassi Junkie

Dana Mania posted:

I'll be flying into Catania, Sicily from London for a long weekend at the end of May, and I'm trying to figure out what to do with myself. I arrive the Thursday morning, and leave the Tuesday morning, so I basically have 4.5 days. I was thinking of staying in Catania, and doing day trips to Syracuse and somewhere else (maybe Taromina, but it looks a bit swish for my taste?). I'm really open to suggestions and ideas, though!

Anyone?

And also, can someone sell me on Berlin? I have another 5 day weekend coming in early May, and there are some reasonable Easyjet flights that suit the times I want to travel. I like to go out for a few drinks, but I'm not a massive clubber which is what everyone seems to rave about in Berlin. I am, on the other hand, a bit of a history dork, and I especially am interested in WWII history. I also like wandering aimlessly around new cities, food, and photography.

icecastle
Jun 9, 2008
Can anyone offer any advice for seeing the Loire Valley? Is booking a tour van the best way to do it?

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Dana Mania posted:

Anyone?

And also, can someone sell me on Berlin? I have another 5 day weekend coming in early May, and there are some reasonable Easyjet flights that suit the times I want to travel. I like to go out for a few drinks, but I'm not a massive clubber which is what everyone seems to rave about in Berlin. I am, on the other hand, a bit of a history dork, and I especially am interested in WWII history. I also like wandering aimlessly around new cities, food, and photography.

Berlin has an absolute shitload of stuff to see. I think there are around 150 "museums," and around 10-20 of those are absolutely amazing. If you like WWII and cold war stuff you can explore all over and see cool poo poo like war memorials, old bunkers, nazi ruins and whatever else, there are also some really cool housing complexes from decades ago that are absolutely amazing in terms of architectural design. You can eat fairly cheaply here if you like food, for one person you can easily do very good diners for 100-200 euro including wine (I am assuming by "liking food" you mean that you like really good eating), and there are 2 Michelin starred restaurants here which offer vegetarian tasting menus if you're vegetarian (I am and so I love this).

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

The Antipop posted:

Where are you coming from? I found out that I could buy them in the St. Pancras rail station before the train left London. The 1 day Visite passes were 10 Euro there.

If you're not buying there, from what I've read the self service ticket machines in Paris require an imbedded computer chip if you're paying with a credit card, something American card companies don't seem to have, so be aware before you go.

I'm going to be landing in CDG but I will have a card with a chip as I read about this and am getting one sent via my bank.

So would it be safe to say that you can get them at most places where there's transit like airport, train stations, etc?

Kolta
Apr 13, 2009
Great thanks for the information everyone! Today I've just simply excepted that fact that I will be smack dab in the middle of Europe and will need to figure out a whole bunch of stuff as I go. I'm 30 days away from this adventure and I know I'm going to learn a lot from this experience.

It's also worth mentioning that this thread and the people who contribute to it are extremely helpful. You can bet that while I'm over there that I will be checking in on this thread and asking for some advice/ideas on what to do. Thanks again everyone! Awesome job!

Things n Stuff
Jun 7, 2005
Degrassi Junkie

Landsknecht posted:

Berlin has an absolute shitload of stuff to see. I think there are around 150 "museums," and around 10-20 of those are absolutely amazing. If you like WWII and cold war stuff you can explore all over and see cool poo poo like war memorials, old bunkers, nazi ruins and whatever else, there are also some really cool housing complexes from decades ago that are absolutely amazing in terms of architectural design. You can eat fairly cheaply here if you like food, for one person you can easily do very good diners for 100-200 euro including wine (I am assuming by "liking food" you mean that you like really good eating), and there are 2 Michelin starred restaurants here which offer vegetarian tasting menus if you're vegetarian (I am and so I love this).

Thanks! That was the tiny push I needed, and my flights are now booked.

I was originally thinking of going to Moscow, which is something I've always wanted to do. Unfortunately, the flight times were awkward and would have left me paying silly amounts of money for flights and a visa for 3.5 days of visiting. But Moscow will still be there next time I have a long weekend, and Berlin looks amazing too.

duralict
Sep 18, 2007

this isn't hug club at all

3peat posted:

Oh and I guess if you aint got anything better to do, you could also check out Constanta (my home city), it's the biggest romanian resort on the black sea so it gets crammed with tourists from may and you cant throw a stone without hitting the ferrari or lamborghini of the romanian nuveau rich who come here in herds during the summer to flaunt their wealth. But it's also a 2600 years old city that over time belonged to greeks, romans, byzantines, ottomans and others so there's still roman ruins, ottoman mosques, and stuff like that; tho you'd get much better versions of that stuff in Turkey I guess.

I had the most surreal experience in Constanta. Our hostel was brand-new and completely abandoned. The (British) owner was kinda desperate for good word-of-mouth, and he absolutely insisted that we go out to a beer garden with him to meet some "hot Romanian girls," which we agreed to immediately after he clarified that he was buying the drinks. Then when no "hot Romanian girls" appeared, he called the desk girl and offered paid hours to her and any of her friends who were "hot Romanian girls" if they'd come. He was so disappointed when we just sat around chatting and drinking his free beer rather than hooking up. But I guess that's what happens when you pay women who aren't prostitutes to hang out with a couple of gays who came for the free beer.

Also Constanta has a really neat abandoned casino.

Dana Mania posted:

Anyone?

And also, can someone sell me on Berlin? I have another 5 day weekend coming in early May, and there are some reasonable Easyjet flights that suit the times I want to travel. I like to go out for a few drinks, but I'm not a massive clubber which is what everyone seems to rave about in Berlin. I am, on the other hand, a bit of a history dork, and I especially am interested in WWII history. I also like wandering aimlessly around new cities, food, and photography.

Make sure you spend some time in the old East Berlin districts, especially just across the river from the East Side Gallery. That area's been populated by bohemians/hipsters since the 80s so it's full of interesting things to eat and take pictures of. Berlin's so well-known for clubbing because it's really the best it gets, but it's also right up there in the A-list for world cities with historic points of interest and cool stuff to see.

Also what up Sicily buddy, I'm going there probably right after you leave.

duralict fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Apr 2, 2013

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Kolta posted:

Great thanks for the information everyone! Today I've just simply excepted that fact that I will be smack dab in the middle of Europe and will need to figure out a whole bunch of stuff as I go. I'm 30 days away from this adventure and I know I'm going to learn a lot from this experience.

It's also worth mentioning that this thread and the people who contribute to it are extremely helpful. You can bet that while I'm over there that I will be checking in on this thread and asking for some advice/ideas on what to do. Thanks again everyone! Awesome job!

You'll be fine. I'm in Vienna so if you wanna get a beer PM me.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Rashomon posted:

My wife and I are going to go to Iceland for probably 6-7 days this July. What do you guys recommend? Things we like: museums, cultural/historical places, interesting architecture, cool local restaurants, locally made art/clothing/other kinds of shopping, and of course seeing all the amazing landscapes. What's the best to do with about a week?

I would spend 2-3 days in Reykjavik itself, then rent a car and drive down the coast for a few days, to Skaftafell and back. You'll get some amazing landscape viewing in at Skaftafell, the visitor's centre is actually more like a museum about Iceland and how the volcanoes work and affected the way of life of Icelanders. There's also quite a few places you can stop on the way (Seljalandsfoss, Vik, Skogafoss, etc) you can also go up to Jokulsarlon from Skaftafell pretty easily, it's only about a 30 minute drive up the road.

One of your days in Reykjavik I would also drive to Thingvellir, Geysir and Gullfoss, or the Golden Circle as it's called.

In Reykjavik itself, shopping-wise the city is small enough that just walking around downtown and going into shops that look cool is very doable. I don't know about any shops worth seeing outside the downtown core though, sorry. Hamborgarabullan had the best burgers we thought, in Iceland, and an awesome atmosphere. It's basically a little hut with a restaurant in it, there's only seating for about 15 people but most people seem to go in on their lunch break and get take-away to take back to their place. The burgers were really awesome though (Icelanders love their burgers).

There's also a place that's got a rep as the best hot dog stand in the world (Baejarins Beztu), a little stand tucked away behind a fence on a side street, but honestly I didn't think they were that great, they just tasted like normal street hot dogs.

Reykjavik has awesome architecture, really just walk around the city, through the small winding streets and enjoy it. It's awesome. Iceland is awesome, one of my favourite places in the world, you'll have a blast.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Rashomon posted:

My wife and I are going to go to Iceland for probably 6-7 days this July. What do you guys recommend? Things we like: museums, cultural/historical places, interesting architecture, cool local restaurants, locally made art/clothing/other kinds of shopping, and of course seeing all the amazing landscapes. What's the best to do with about a week?

I would assume anyone heading to Iceland would make a trip to the Blue Lagoon. If you like beautiful landscape views, consider booking a horse riding tour with Hestar. After we went riding, my wife and I stayed and chatted with the lady that owned the farm for a couple hours. It was great fun and it should be really nice in June/July.

If you're interested, there is a penis museum (?) on the main shopping avenue in Reykjavik and there's plenty of local merchandise shops there as well.

HookShot posted:

I would spend 2-3 days in Reykjavik itself, then rent a car and drive down the coast for a few days, to Skaftafell and back. You'll get some amazing landscape viewing in at Skaftafell, the visitor's centre is actually more like a museum about Iceland and how the volcanoes work and affected the way of life of Icelanders. There's also quite a few places you can stop on the way (Seljalandsfoss, Vik, Skogafoss, etc) you can also go up to Jokulsarlon from Skaftafell pretty easily, it's only about a 30 minute drive up the road.

This sounds like a good plan. A couple weeks ago we did the South Iceland tour with Iceland Excursions which followed this path and included stops at Seljalandsfoss, Vik, and Skogafoss along with a glacier walk on Solheimajokull. The drive takes you within viewing distance of the volcano Hekla and past the base of Eyjafjallajokull. It was well worth it.

HookShot posted:

One of your days in Reykjavik I would also drive to Thingvellir, Geysir and Gullfoss, or the Golden Circle as it's called.

In Reykjavik itself, shopping-wise the city is small enough that just walking around downtown and going into shops that look cool is very doable. I don't know about any shops worth seeing outside the downtown core though, sorry. Hamborgarabullan had the best burgers we thought, in Iceland, and an awesome atmosphere. It's basically a little hut with a restaurant in it, there's only seating for about 15 people but most people seem to go in on their lunch break and get take-away to take back to their place. The burgers were really awesome though (Icelanders love their burgers).

Coming from the US, we were confused when eating at Icelandic restaurants. You walk in and either are seated or choose your own seat and the wait staff is like a team. One may take your order, another brings the food, another will collect your plates and take dessert orders, while another will ring up your bill based on your table number. It was odd at first, but I really liked the concept. We liked the burgers at Hamborgara Fabrikann. While we were there, an occasional short speech in Icelandic and cheer went through the restaurant. Apparently, each time an Icelandic baby is born they cheer and keep a count on the wall.

This recent trip was the 2nd time we went to Iceland and although we only spent 3 or 4 nights there each time, we felt like we saw a lot and really enjoyed it.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

icecastle posted:

Can anyone offer any advice for seeing the Loire Valley? Is booking a tour van the best way to do it?

No, rent a car.

Things n Stuff
Jun 7, 2005
Degrassi Junkie

duralict posted:


Make sure you spend some time in the old East Berlin districts, especially just across the river from the East Side Gallery. That area's been populated by bohemians/hipsters since the 80s so it's full of interesting things to eat and take pictures of. Berlin's so well-known for clubbing because it's really the best it gets, but it's also right up there in the A-list for world cities with historic points of interest and cool stuff to see.

Also what up Sicily buddy, I'm going there probably right after you leave.

Thanks! East Berlin sounds awesome, and I'll be all over that.

What are you doing in Sicily? I don't know why, but I'm struggling to find more than scraps of information on all the cities / places near Catania so I can't figure out how to divide my time or where to base myself.

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?
Our next European adventure is rapidly approaching, and I am hoping that the thread can again share some wisdom :)

We're flying into London on the 30th June, arriving early in the morning. Our itinerary is as follows:

30th June - 6th July: Amsterdam
6th July - 12th July: Berlin
12th July - 18th July: Prague
18th July - 25th July: London
25th July - 27th July: Edinburgh
27th July: Go back to London, fly home.

We've booked flights from Prague back to London, but apart from that am still working out the best way to get around from city to city. We were considering the train from London to Edinburgh and back, and possibly getting the train from London to Amsterdam? Can anyone offer any suggestions on what might be a good choice for transport, keeping in mind that there are only two of us traveling together and my partner isn't able to be on his feet for hours on end, and it's likely I might not be able to spend lots of time on my feet either as I'll be about 5 months pregnant at that point. We don't mind spending a bit extra if it means we'll spend less time in transit, but we don't want to be super expensive with everything either.

I'd also appreciate any suggestions on cool stuff to check out in each of these cities. I'm a big fan of anything bird-related, I also really like gardens, art-related stuff and interesting/historical buildings. Thank you :)

kru
Oct 5, 2003

Why don't you fly from Prague -> Edinburgh -> Train to London?

Would save you a good five hours travel, and you can spend more time in each place.

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?

kru posted:

Why don't you fly from Prague -> Edinburgh -> Train to London?

Would save you a good five hours travel, and you can spend more time in each place.

Sorry, I should have mentioned, we need to be in London through that time period for a wedding.

duralict
Sep 18, 2007

this isn't hug club at all
Trains in the UK get significantly more expensive if you wait to buy them, and aren't always cheaper than flying to begin with. I'd price check that right now if I were you, especially going all the way to Scotland. Is that Fringe time yet? If so you may need to book accommodation really far in advance for Edinburgh, too. One of the few times it's always better to make actual reservations months in advance.


Dana Mania posted:

What are you doing in Sicily? I don't know why, but I'm struggling to find more than scraps of information on all the cities / places near Catania so I can't figure out how to divide my time or where to base myself.

Ha, I'm having the opposite problem, the whole area is crawling with interesting stuff I want to see (Wikitravel has a pretty good overview). I'm probably just not going to worry about it and improvise, since it seems like there's nowhere on the whole island more than about a half hour away from some major tourist draw.

Hog Obituary
Jun 11, 2006
start the day right
Okay, I've got 2 full days left (i.e. sleeping 3 more nights) in Barcelona before I leave for Paris. I've done the main touristy things I care about - Montjuic, Sagrada Familia, Parc Guell, Picasso Museum, City History Museum, walked around Las Ramblas and Barri Gotic, and the Gothic Cathedral.

Anyone have suggestions on other things I should do? Are there any things I should see in the countryside? Day trip somewhere?

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

I had a good time hiking to Montserrat. Just take the train there and head up, great views and the monastery is pretty cool.

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI
I'm hoping you gents can give me some lovely advice.

I'm leaving Dallas(DFW or DAL0 area on June 10th and would like to spend a couple weeks in Western Europe.

Looks like the cheapest flights are going to Brussels, Belgium. Which seems a nice jumping off point for my first-ever time in Europe.


Those of you with experience, what airline do you recommend? I guess more importantly, is DFW the place to be for flights to Western Europe? Or should we take a southwest flight to something like Chicago or Houston before we try and find the best prices?

I don't need to be cheap about airlines, I just want one that won't be awful!


I think I might crosspost this in the airlines travel thread too.

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
You'll have to mix-and-match airlines in Europe since the national airlines mostly service a star topology from their own country. The airlines aren't that important anyway since most flights will be under two hours so it doesn't really matter if all you get to eat is stale peanuts, what you want to watch out for is that they actually land at a convenient airport. The really lovely airlines like Ryanair will take off and land at airports in the middle of nowhere leaving you with a $50 taxi bill to get into civilization. As long as an airline lands at the main city airport (i.e. Heathrow for London, Charles de Gaulle for Paris) you are fine.

Also, if you are good at sleeping while driving have a look at the night trains. Instead of wasting half a day in duty free shops and security checks you travel overnight, save the hotel bill and can use the holidays for actually looking at stuff.

Hog Obituary
Jun 11, 2006
start the day right

Jeoh posted:

I had a good time hiking to Montserrat. Just take the train there and head up, great views and the monastery is pretty cool.

Sweet, I looked it up and Montserrat sounds awesome. I just hope it doesn't rain too bad.

nozz
Jan 27, 2007

proficient pringle eater

duralict posted:

Trains in the UK get significantly more expensive if you wait to buy them, and aren't always cheaper than flying to begin with. I'd price check that right now if I were you, especially going all the way to Scotland. Is that Fringe time yet? If so you may need to book accommodation really far in advance for Edinburgh, too. One of the few times it's always better to make actual reservations months in advance.


As a disclaimer for train tickets though, you can only book 12 weeks max in advance to get the cheapest fares for trains in the UK. If you want to see how cheap fares can be, look 12 weeks in advance from right now, or wait a few weeks. If you want, sign up to this advance ticket alert thing: http://www.eastcoast.co.uk/travel-information/advanced-ticket-alert/ Use that site to book them as well. There are also sleeper trains on this route with ScotRail, but it probably isn't worth the bother unless you are really tight for time.

For London to Amsterdam, check this out for info: http://www.seat61.com/Netherlands.htm

nozz fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Apr 3, 2013

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI

peak debt posted:

You'll have to mix-and-match airlines in Europe since the national airlines mostly service a star topology from their own country. The airlines aren't that important anyway since most flights will be under two hours so it doesn't really matter if all you get to eat is stale peanuts, what you want to watch out for is that they actually land at a convenient airport. The really lovely airlines like Ryanair will take off and land at airports in the middle of nowhere leaving you with a $50 taxi bill to get into civilization. As long as an airline lands at the main city airport (i.e. Heathrow for London, Charles de Gaulle for Paris) you are fine.

Also, if you are good at sleeping while driving have a look at the night trains. Instead of wasting half a day in duty free shops and security checks you travel overnight, save the hotel bill and can use the holidays for actually looking at stuff.

Hey thanks for the help I guess my question was really more focused on this one though:

'What airline should I be using from the USA to Western Europe.'


On the point about your night trains, it's possible for couples to sleep together, right? My fiance keeps reading about how women have to sleep with other women and shes not comfortable doing that.

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?

duralict posted:

Trains in the UK get significantly more expensive if you wait to buy them, and aren't always cheaper than flying to begin with. I'd price check that right now if I were you, especially going all the way to Scotland. Is that Fringe time yet? If so you may need to book accommodation really far in advance for Edinburgh, too. One of the few times it's always better to make actual reservations months in advance.


All of our accommodation has been booked already, and Fringe isn't on until a week or two after we've left. I've had a look at flights and they seem to be a lot more expensive than the train.

Gat posted:

As a disclaimer for train tickets though, you can only book 12 weeks max in advance to get the cheapest fares for trains in the UK. If you want to see how cheap fares can be, look 12 weeks in advance from right now, or wait a few weeks. If you want, sign up to this advance ticket alert thing: http://www.eastcoast.co.uk/travel-information/advanced-ticket-alert/ Use that site to book them as well. There are also sleeper trains on this route with ScotRail, but it probably isn't worth the bother unless you are really tight for time.

For London to Amsterdam, check this out for info: http://www.seat61.com/Netherlands.htm

That website is really helpful, thanks very much!

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?

Captain Apollo posted:

On the point about your night trains, it's possible for couples to sleep together, right? My fiance keeps reading about how women have to sleep with other women and shes not comfortable doing that.

My partner and I got the night train from Paris to Barcelona, and we we able to book our own cabin with bunk beds in it, but we both curled up together on the bottom bunk. What is available might vary depending on which train you are on, I would assume.

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Captain Apollo posted:

Hey thanks for the help I guess my question was really more focused on this one though:

'What airline should I be using from the USA to Western Europe.'


On the point about your night trains, it's possible for couples to sleep together, right? My fiance keeps reading about how women have to sleep with other women and shes not comfortable doing that.

Your fiancee is reading some weird poo poo, but I think it would be really cramped sleeping in a couchette with another person on the same bed. You can get bigger beds in shared upgraded sleeper cabins or private cabins if you want to spend the money.

As for airlines, I haven't seen much difference, personally. I've flown Delta, KLM, Air France, and one more livery that I can't now recall. Air France has the best free alcohol and better food. Delta/KLM have surprisingly up to date movies and tv shows in their seatback media players.

But really, it's only gonna be 10-20 hours and the quality of your flight is going to be much more influenced by the people/babies who sit near you rather than by the carrier itself, don't sweat the decision that much.

Genderman
Jan 17, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post
I'm doing a four week solo backpacking trip to Europe this coming May and would like some kindly goon advice. I'm going to be travelling around by eurotrain as a way to not have to pay to sleep somewhere at the same time getting somewhere. Here's my itenerary:

Berlin -> Prague -> Austrian city (thinking Salzburg or Lutz. Maybe Vienna) -> Florence -> Rome for a day just to fly out

My motivations are to see historical landmarks (especially old architecture), cultural tourism, and partying. I guess like most people. I'm thinking a week in each location. Too much time? Also wondering about backpacking finance. Is 80$ Canadian a day, not including travel, reasonable? I'm going to be hosteling and not eating out much. Can anyone help with my Austrian city choice? I sort of want to see archetecture from medieval Bavaria.

duralict
Sep 18, 2007

this isn't hug club at all

Genderman posted:

I'm doing a four week solo backpacking trip to Europe this coming May and would like some kindly goon advice. I'm going to be travelling around by eurotrain as a way to not have to pay to sleep somewhere at the same time getting somewhere. Here's my itenerary:

Berlin -> Prague -> Austrian city (thinking Salzburg or Lutz. Maybe Vienna) -> Florence -> Rome for a day just to fly out

My motivations are to see historical landmarks (especially old architecture), cultural tourism, and partying. I guess like most people. I'm thinking a week in each location. Too much time? Also wondering about backpacking finance. Is 80$ Canadian a day, not including travel, reasonable? I'm going to be hosteling and not eating out much. Can anyone help with my Austrian city choice? I sort of want to see archetecture from medieval Bavaria.

Yes, that's a reasonable budget, especially if you're avoiding restaurants. Just resist the urge to upgrade unnecessarily and you'll be fine.

Vienna is really cool but it's all grand imperial architecture (think Napoleonic-style stuff). If you're looking for Germanic alpine stuff, Innsbruck is much closer to the mark. Or you could go to actual Bavaria instead. Also why on earth would you not spend a little time in Rome? You've got the time.

Genderman
Jan 17, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post

duralict posted:

Yes, that's a reasonable budget, especially if you're avoiding restaurants. Just resist the urge to upgrade unnecessarily and you'll be fine.

Vienna is really cool but it's all grand imperial architecture (think Napoleonic-style stuff). If you're looking for Germanic alpine stuff, Innsbruck is much closer to the mark. Or you could go to actual Bavaria instead. Also why on earth would you not spend a little time in Rome? You've got the time.

I hear Rome is super shady and expensive. I'm actually considering switching Italy for Romania. I hear its dirt cheap and awesome but I don't know much about what to visit. Also there are packs of wild dogs roaming in the cities? Someone told me they kill tourists, sometimes in broad daylight.

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duralict
Sep 18, 2007

this isn't hug club at all

Genderman posted:

I hear Rome is super shady and expensive. I'm actually considering switching Italy for Romania. I hear its dirt cheap and awesome but I don't know much about what to visit. Also there are packs of wild dogs roaming in the cities? Someone told me they kill tourists, sometimes in broad daylight.

Who's telling you these things? It sounds like you're getting the hyped-for-network-news versions of problems. Rome isn't shady at all, especially in comparison to Romania. And it's the same price range as everywhere else you listed except maybe Prague and Austria.

Romania does have dangerous stray dogs but they're not literally maneaters roving the street in packs. They're no more a hazard to Romanian tourists than bears are to campers, you only get in trouble if you do stupid things to antagonize or attract them.

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