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Hey ain't Vriska prophesied to cause unfathomable destruction? Anyone think webcomic characters can fathom the idea of destroying the website of the comic they're in? 
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Kazy posted:What if he falls in? Don't you get it? If he falls in that thing, he will have always been there
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Apr 5, 2013 22:05
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Don't you get it? If he falls in that thing, he will have always been there It's pretty obvious what Lord English did with it. He was already here. Seoinin posted:Hey ain't Vriska prophesied to cause unfathomable destruction? No, that's when Caliborn takes the crowbar to the tower again 
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Apr 5, 2013 22:06
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 Tumblr makes weird things sometimes. source
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Apr 5, 2013 22:08
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This update is crazy and all, but John's hand reaching for the Doritos was much funnier to me than it should have been.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:09
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You're missing one important bit here: John accidentally poked Vriska's stinger horn. He is Vriskapoisoned now.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:09
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Color Printer posted:It's pretty obvious what Lord English did with it. Is there any chance he hasn't done that yet, and Kurloz or someone else is actually going to steal the thing here and now in order to make the Cairo Overcoat and let Caliborn do his Already Here thing in the first place? There was a lot of speculation that Vriska and friends were being suckered into this treasure hunt, after all.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:09
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lotus circle posted:Not that this isn't funny, but I don't see how John can drastically alter the timeline by randomly sticking his hands through several random panels. You'd be surprised how effective a good ticklin' can be, both for weakening foes and boosting the morale of friends.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:10
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Popo posted:VRISKA: This is a very powerful juju. You'd 8e messing with some forces we don't fully understand. Aradia's tired of waiting for things to break apart, she's going to help speed things up.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:10
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Oh hey! 's been a while since the last recap, huh? Thanks John.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:12
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Blackheart posted:You're missing one important bit here: John accidentally poked Vriska's stinger horn. He is Vriskapoisoned now. And now he'll turn into a self-absorbed rear end in a top hat with no real understanding of the larger scope of things! 
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Apr 5, 2013 22:12
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I wonder if the panels will go back to normal when he takes his arm out.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:12
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Freudian posted:And now he'll turn into a self-absorbed rear end in a top hat with no real understanding of the larger scope of things! oh my god, he'll become a teenager
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Apr 5, 2013 22:13
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I love this comic so loving much.  I wish I could erase my memory of Homestuck and read it for the first time again so I could be confused by all those arms.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:14
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Can't wait until John pulls his arm out and Hussie has to go back and replace all those panels again. The things he does for his metafiction!
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Apr 5, 2013 22:14
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Scale Model Giant posted:a gag, not a major loving plot point. Aren't these two things often actually the same thing in Homestuck?
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Apr 5, 2013 22:15
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Wow. Postmodernist as gently caress. I might actually email my old Postmodernism professor about this and see what he thinks about it. Retconing the story as a means of progressing the story is a pretty crazy narrative device.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:20
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Oh christ, I don't care how many metas happen, just resolve the plot already.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:22
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I can't decide if I want the arms to stay or not. On the one hand (hah) it makes sense that if they didn't appear until John stuck his arm into the cursor, then when he takes it back out they'll disappear again. On the other hand I'm laughing hysterically at the idea of future archive readers being confronted with random unexplained arms through four years' worth of comic.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:23
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When stuff like this happens, what I love the most is reading fans who go "No this is literally too ridiculous even for Homestuck I'm out!". I mean, really? (Not directed at anyone in particular.)
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Boneless Jogger posted:This update is crazy and all, but John's hand reaching for the Doritos was much funnier to me than it should have been. John high-fiving AR was my favorite.  
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Apr 5, 2013 22:24
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Fun Fact: There are 52 changed pages! Fun Fact 2: Four times thirteen is 52!
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Apr 5, 2013 22:24
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KaosMachina posted:Fun Fact: There are 52 changed pages! Fun Fact 3: The montage of retconned pages is 4 pages long, with 13 panels on each page.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:26
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krakagar posted:John: Retrieve arms from webcomic Hahahahahahha
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Apr 5, 2013 22:28
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It's pretty much guaranteed that the hands in the old panels will vanish when he pulls it back out. I guess Archive Bullshit is more powerful than Time Bullshit. All John would need to do is just... sort of... reach inside and pull out Caliborn from before his plans got underway. This is also secretly the method for defeating Koos forever.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:32
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Crain posted:Wow. Postmodernist as gently caress. John Fowles' 1969 novel The French Lieutenant's Woman does this. The novel ends, and then the author steps into the story (as a narrator he's rather Hussie-like, sort of confrontational and sarcastic toward the reader and the characters) and he says, "You know, that ending was dumb. I'm going to try this again." So he retcons the ending. Then retcons it again for good measure, and basically says "Well, choose whichever ending you like the best, I'm out." That said, I don't think this is going to be a "true" retcon. Dolash's post seems on-point to me: the narrative of the comic thus far follows the "Alpha timeline" that results in the antagonist existing, and the characters now have a way to (perhaps) influence that narrative/timeline in a way that still requires them to have followed the Alpha timeline this far. This also throws totally into question whose disembodied white hand moved that cake.
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Thundarr posted:It's pretty much guaranteed that the hands in the old panels will vanish when he pulls it back out. So just like he removed the tumor from the battlefield. He will remove the tumor from the alpha timeline. He really is a doctor. Also, cancer symbolism.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:34
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Maybe this is how Lord English is always already here.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:35
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Mother of god. It's Neon Ice Cream Headache. I think Homestuck has now referenced (in a plot-relevant way) every work Hussie has written before.
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001982 posted:The game presently eluding you is only the latest sleight of hand in the repertoire of an unseen riddler, one to engender a sense not of mirth, but of lack. John's arm is the unseen riddler. It's him.
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Apr 5, 2013 22:41
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So, let me see if I've got this straight: the current plan is to telekinetically move a plot hole into a position where it can un-self-insert the villain from the story. Well it's original if nothing else.
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I really love the idea of this but I'm not sure how to feel about the arms floating by the title. The rest of the arms are hidden enough to pique interest and get a new reader wondering but the arm flying by the title just sort of...messes with the scene, I guess. It's too apparent. I also wish that Andrew had come up with this idea earlier because it's like a perfect thing to read serially and see a lot of speculation about the arm, and whose arm is that, where else have we seen the arm, stuff like that. I still really do love this whole sequence though!!
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Apr 5, 2013 22:55
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I'm still holding out for Hussie to give us multiple endings like in Waynes World.
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Thundarr posted:This is also secretly the method for defeating Koos forever. But... I don't understand. Why on earth would you want to do that?
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Apr 5, 2013 22:59
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FunkyAl posted:I really love the idea of this but I'm not sure how to feel about the arms floating by the title. The rest of the arms are hidden enough to pique interest and get a new reader wondering but the arm flying by the title just sort of...messes with the scene, I guess. It's too apparent. No, you're missing the point. This is integral to the story. The entire point hammered home again and again is that Paradox Space sets the rules. There is the Alpha Timeline and if you deviate from it then gently caress you. Lord English is the king of it and he's unbeatable because paradox space guarantees his ascension and rule. John just changed the Alpha Timeline.
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FunkyAl posted:I really love the idea of this but I'm not sure how to feel about the arms floating by the title. The rest of the arms are hidden enough to pique interest and get a new reader wondering but the arm flying by the title just sort of...messes with the scene, I guess. It's too apparent. It's also small enough to be mistaken for a cloud or a bird or some poo poo. It's apparent but obscure enough that some people will notice it and dismiss it within a few seconds and most will not even really notice it, they'll be focus on the text.
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team overhead smash posted:No, you're missing the point. This is integral to the story. The entire point hammered home again and again is that Paradox Space sets the rules. There is the Alpha Timeline and if you deviate from it then gently caress you. Lord English is the king of it and he's unbeatable because paradox space guarantees his ascension and rule. Frankly beating a cheater by cheating against him sounds like the perfect way to take him down.
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PleasingFungus posted:But... I don't understand. Why on earth would you want to do that? I didn't say it was *my* plan.
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team overhead smash posted:No, you're missing the point. This is integral to the story. The entire point hammered home again and again is that Paradox Space sets the rules. There is the Alpha Timeline and if you deviate from it then gently caress you. Lord English is the king of it and he's unbeatable because paradox space guarantees his ascension and rule. Exactly this. This isn't something Hussie should've been adding to the comic on the way up to this point, this is explicitly John reaching back and adding himself right now, at this moment. John is the author of this action. Well okay except not literally since you know John still isn't real, but in the metafictional sense.
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