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Well how many are going to bring up Thatcher sending the SAS to train the Khmer Rouge, 6 years after the regime was exposed as batshit and genocidal?
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Phone posted:Get hosed NY Times: Seriously, drop a note to the public editor, Margaret Sullivan, at twitter.com/sulliview or http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/contact-the-public-editor/.
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Apr 8, 2013 15:12
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LP97S posted:Well how many are going to bring up Thatcher sending the SAS to train the Khmer Rouge, 6 years after the regime was exposed as batshit and genocidal? Both Thatcher and the US (Carter?) armed the Khmer Rouge after Vietnam kicked them out because we were butthurt over the Vietnam War.
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Apr 8, 2013 15:19
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Both Thatcher and the US (Carter?) armed the Khmer Rouge after Vietnam kicked them out because we were butthurt over the Vietnam War. I know that. That doesn't make it good. In fact it makes it worse.
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Apr 8, 2013 15:19
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Links, please, and the Independent story that is the only sole source of an allegation that the US armed or funded the Khmer Rouge which relies on a single unsubstantiated statement by one man doesn't count. I'm very, very familiar with this territory you're treading on and I'm guessing you're not. It's entirely plausible that the US funded the KR, but if it happened, it didn't happen how you think it happened, I bet. I noticed like most Western-obsessed people you left out China in your list, the primary benefactor from before Pol Pot took power until after the Vietnamese freed Cambodia.
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Apr 8, 2013 15:22
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Might be time for a thread to honouring Thatcher's legacy.
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Apr 8, 2013 15:25
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ReindeerF posted:Links, please, and the Independent story that is the only sole source of an allegation that the US armed or funded the Khmer Rouge which relies on a single unsubstantiated statement by one man doesn't count. I'm very, very familiar with this territory you're treading on and I'm guessing you're not. It's entirely plausible that the US funded the KR, but if it happened, it didn't happen how you think it happened, I bet. Well China was the primary supporter of the Khmer Rouge while the Russians were the primary supporters of Vietnam. During those brief wars in 78 and 79 what people like to call "realpolitik" took over so the US and it's buddies supported the genocidal fucks hiding in Thailand from giving them training to supporting their seat at the UN for 10 loving years.
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ReindeerF posted:Links, please, and the Independent story that is the only sole source of an allegation that the US armed or funded the Khmer Rouge which relies on a single unsubstantiated statement by one man doesn't count. I'm very, very familiar with this territory you're treading on and I'm guessing you're not. It's entirely plausible that the US funded the KR, but if it happened, it didn't happen how you think it happened, I bet. So am I, and there is a wealth of information on the net from many many sources that will corroborate our support for the "anti Vietnam" coalition forces that were a majority Khmer Rouge. Western support for the PDK is well documented and began while it was under leadership of Pol Pot and continued into the 90s.
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Apr 8, 2013 15:30
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ufarn posted:Hoooly poo poo. Done and done. Mostly just me quoting the "pulled the UK back from 35 years of socialism" and saying "gently caress you".
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Apr 8, 2013 15:39
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Did Tea Party hero, Curt Schilling re-evaluate his beliefs after sucking on the government teat when he spoke out against doing such things his whole life? Take a guess. 
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Apr 8, 2013 15:40
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Crasscrab posted:Done and done. Mostly just me quoting the "pulled the UK back from 35 years of socialism" and saying "gently caress you". http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/08/world/europe/uk-margaret-thatcher-reaction/index.html It's irritating to hear our Marxist leader Barrack Hussein Obama declare we have "lost one of the great champions of freedom and liberty." What garbage. I understand you have to say nice stuff as a leader about other ex-leaders but that's the biggest stretch I've ever heard.
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Apr 8, 2013 15:51
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az posted:Pulled her country back from socialism Good old blind acceptance of the idea that socialism is bad. Socialism is the obvious and inevitable path, I wish these fucks would stop pretending otherwise just to score points.
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Apr 8, 2013 16:31
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Oh cool I guess universal health care isn't SOCIALISM anymore now that a GOP godhead died. Thanks NYT.
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Well, Limbaugh today should be quite insufferable. I can't wait  One of my friends from Ireland shared with me some of the things Thatcher did while she was in office and it was nothing short of rage inducing.
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God drat http://www.theonion.com/articles/margaret-thatchers-ashes-scattered-over-free-marke,31981/ E: looks like the ny times took out the bit of Thatcher pulling the UK out of 35 years of socialism. Odd. Phone fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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LP97S posted:Well China was the primary supporter of the Khmer Rouge while the Russians were the primary supporters of Vietnam. During those brief wars in 78 and 79 what people like to call "realpolitik" took over so the US and it's buddies supported the genocidal fucks hiding in Thailand from giving them training to supporting their seat at the UN for 10 loving years. Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:So am I, and there is a wealth of information on the net from many many sources that will corroborate our support for the "anti Vietnam" coalition forces that were a majority Khmer Rouge. Western support for the PDK is well documented and began while it was under leadership of Pol Pot and continued into the 90s. This is one of those ugly things about being a rational human being. Sometimes it turns out that your biases don't match reality even when they make sense. Just because the US was horrendous in Indochina - and it was - doesn't mean every bad thing that happened here was done with US assistance or direction. Often times we were bumbling idiots as surprised as anyone. This is one of those dichotomies you have to grow up and accept - we were too stupid to understand it was a civil war and we were too stupid to back savvy players like Sihanouk. We didn't suddenly become subterfuge geniuses on covert warfare when it came time to support the KR as they fought a losing resistance in Battambang & Pailin. The best estimates for any US involvement were us funding aid camps with some tacit understanding that the food and money might end up elsewhere. Everything else is, "I met a man in a bar in ..." and that talk is very cheap here in Southeast Asia.
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Phone posted:E: looks like the ny times took out the bit of Thatcher pulling the UK out of 35 years of socialism. Odd. quote:Margaret Thatcher, the “Iron Lady” of British politics, who turned her country in a sharply conservative direction  I should tweet "gently caress you" at people more often.
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Apr 8, 2013 19:13
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Rush is STILL going on about that kid he had on about global warming. He's STILL loving TALKING ABOUT IT. Let it go. He's ranting about how Liberals are calling him out just because he and other conservatives are listening to a 13 year old's local library research on the issue. ...which...loving poo poo, yeah...because that's what he's doing. But no. He knows better. In his heart.
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Crasscrab posted:
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Apr 8, 2013 19:33
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Remove or space the period, please. Also, that site is amazing. Need to put this into my bookmarks. E: oh god this is gold "35 years of Phone fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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Apr 8, 2013 19:39
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This is one of the single greatest fusions of Goon and Right Wing shithead I have ever seen http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/03/28/7-real-life-lessons-learned-in-video-games/?singlepage=true quote:The experience of (playing Fable 2) inspired me to revisit methods for creating wealth and fostering upward mobility.
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Phone posted:Remove or space the period, please. Jesus, I thought you were making that up. 
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A DENVER FAX posted:This is one of the single greatest fusions of Goon and Right Wing shithead I have ever seen 5) Civilization – Protect What’s Yours Haha, no. What you learn from Civilization is that a cultural victory is the best victory.
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Crasscrab posted:5) Civilization – Protect What’s Yours Wrong. It's Space.
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Crasscrab posted:5) Civilization – Protect What’s Yours Read his intro too. There is something hilariously apropos about a right wing guy saying "The only thing keeping me from social mobility is that I have no financial opportunities".
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A DENVER FAX posted:This is one of the single greatest fusions of Goon and Right Wing shithead I have ever seen My experience in Fable 3 taught me to tax the poo poo out of everyone and raise prices ridiculously high and borrow money from the treasury until everyone hates you, then put it back in the treasury and lower everything to almost nothing once you're self sustaining.
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greatn posted:My experience in Fable 3 taught me to tax the poo poo out of everyone and raise prices ridiculously high and borrow money from the treasury until everyone hates you, then put it back in the treasury and lower everything to almost nothing once you're self sustaining. I learned the secret to true love and popularity is to manually walk up to every stranger I meet and whistle in their face for a minute
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Now that I have a relatively long commute in the 8-9am timeslot, I'm really starting to appreciate how Mike Gallagher is striving to be the worst person on the planet. This morning there was a solid half hour talking about how Treyvon Martin was a drug abusing tattooed thug with gold teeth. This was followed by anecdotes about two rude black women he ran into the other day and lots of moaning about how you can't talk about how the majority of crime is committed by 'the blacks'. Also somehow that new black panther polling place thing came up. It was like the 'what's the deal with black people??' power hour. Oh, and don't think today was unique. Today only hit about the mean level of vitriol. He's kind of like Levin but with even less filter on what topics are appropriate and he plays it completely straight and doesnt sound like master shake, so it isn't as easy to laugh off. And in case you aren't familiar, we aren't talking about some local am loser. He's nationally syndicated.
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Apr 8, 2013 20:38
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Andrew Sullivan is basically dedicating his entire blog to painting a mural of Margaret Thatcher in her honour, so check it out, lest you forget the kind of person he actually is.
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Apr 8, 2013 20:44
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Andrew Sullivan's support of Obama does more to tarnish Obama than make Sullivan look less loathsome.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I'll be interested to see how many articles note that she was a supporter of South Africa's apartheid government for years. She also wasn't exactly the harshest critic of Augusto Pinochet. And she called Nelson Mandela and the ANC terrorists.
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Radish posted:Andrew Sullivan's support of Obama does more to tarnish Obama than make Sullivan look less loathsome. It'd also be pundit seppuku to support Romney.
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richardfun posted:She also wasn't exactly the harshest critic of Augusto Pinochet. And she called Nelson Mandela and the ANC terrorists.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The ANC former leadership released a letter yesterday upon hearing about her death that literally starts with 'good riddance'. That sounded so good, I had to look it up. quote:Pallo Jordan, who remembers the days when Thatcher insisted that the ANC was a terrorist organisation, "I say good riddance. She was a staunch supporter of the apartheid regime. She was part of the rightwing alliance with Ronald Reagan that led to a lot of avoidable deaths. In the end I sat with her in her office with Nelson Mandela in 1991. She knew she had no choice. Although she called us a terrorist organisation, she had to shake hands with a terrorist and sit down with a terrorist. So who won?" http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-africa-fela-kuti
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Rush is dumb, doesn't know what STEM means in the context of education. "Probably some sort of program."
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I've noticed he doesn't even call educational institutions schools. Instead he uses the word 'screwels'. I initially thought he just had a slip of the tongue, but he uses that word every time. Gotta reinforce the need for homeschooling somehow.
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Manifest Dynasty posted:Rush is dumb, doesn't know what STEM means in the context of education. "Probably some sort of program." I would bet that he knows. So if he's saying that then it's to denigrate the focus on STEM fields as another example of useless liberal mandates that are destroying our youth. The next time his listeners hear STEM, the first thing they will think of is how Rush said it was worthless.
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radical meme posted:I would bet that he knows. So if he's saying that then it's to denigrate the focus on STEM fields as another example of useless liberal mandates that are destroying our youth. The next time his listeners hear STEM, the first thing they will think of is how Rush said it was worthless. No, I was listening too and he definitely didn't know.
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Manifest Dynasty posted:Rush is dumb, doesn't know what STEM means in the context of education. "Probably some sort of program." How does he get away with this given that the business world can't stop screaming about "dumb humanities majors" and the need for more STEM majors and H1-B visas?
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kik2dagroin posted:I've noticed he doesn't even call educational institutions schools. Instead he uses the word 'screwels'. I initially thought he just had a slip of the tongue, but he uses that word every time. Gotta reinforce the need for homeschooling somehow. 'The dumbocrats and their smellfare programs!' This has been going on for too long.
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