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ChibiSoma
Apr 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
So many Rathalos Rubies. Not even going for them, I'm just getting the drat things. It's like Halloween here, I'm getting so much candy off him. Azure Rath armor almost finished. Just need the arm armor. And because I love wondering about stuff like this - the arm armor requires three Azure Rath tails.

What could the wyverian blacksmith possibly need three for? He's clearly crafting the armbands themselves out of the tails. That doesn't explain what the third is for! What are you doing with the crap I'm bringing you, ya old codger?

Only 1 tail away from the full set. Then I'll get the Earplugs gems I need and move towards finally getting Nargacuga on farm. That'll gimme a fairly nice defensive spread going into G-Rank. Still only about halfway through Tanzia HR, but it doesn't hurt to be over-prepared.

Need to see what weapons and charms I have. Get as many slots on my gear as possible. Been in Wroggi Cowgirl gear for so long, it'll be nice to change it up. Even if that means letting go of Negate Hunger.

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Bread Set Jettison
Jan 8, 2009

As a newbie to the series, I was curious and decided to look at the roster for Tri and compared it to 3U... :psyduck: Tri is practically nothing compared to 3U. If people can put 100+ hours into tri, I think I'll be playing 3U for the rest of my life...

Locke Dunnegan
Apr 25, 2005

Respectable Bespectacled Receptacle
Does Negate Hunger also stop cold weather effects? Or does that reduce your stamina on a separate timer instead of just speeding up hunger?

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord
Awaken is only G Rank? So why are there weapons all the way down to Rarity 1 with elements that need awakening? :psyduck:

On one hand the armor skill system is neat but on the other it feels too specialised for a game with twelve different weapon sets. The optimum set for a boss is likely to be a clown suit and you must need to farm a lot of charms.

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

Locke Dunnegan posted:

Does Negate Hunger also stop cold weather effects? Or does that reduce your stamina on a separate timer instead of just speeding up hunger?

It does not stop cold weather directly (you still shiver) but it effectively negates the drawbacks of cold weather.

Bugamol
Aug 2, 2006
Is there a g rank altaeron online? Or is he an offline only mob this time around?

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Carecat posted:

Awaken is only G Rank? So why are there weapons all the way down to Rarity 1 with elements that need awakening? :psyduck:

On one hand the armor skill system is neat but on the other it feels too specialised for a game with twelve different weapon sets. The optimum set for a boss is likely to be a clown suit and you must need to farm a lot of charms.

You can wear G rank armor and still use a rarity 1 weapon if you really really want to.

Locke Dunnegan
Apr 25, 2005

Respectable Bespectacled Receptacle

Carecat posted:

Awaken is only G Rank? So why are there weapons all the way down to Rarity 1 with elements that need awakening? :psyduck:

On one hand the armor skill system is neat but on the other it feels too specialised for a game with twelve different weapon sets. The optimum set for a boss is likely to be a clown suit and you must need to farm a lot of charms.

That just means there is a higher ceiling of optimization. You can go into a g-rank mission naked and win as long as you know the monster and do enough damage, but with armor combos and skills and such it gives the game a lot more longevity to get the "best set ever" for whatever you are wanting to do. It may take a lot of grinding and luck to get there, but then again you don't NEED to go for the best set. It's an option for people if they want to go for it, and for some people is a big part of their enjoyment of the game. Hell, even figuring out WHICH pieces of armor and decorations give you exactly what you need is fun for me. I know that back in MHFU I had a ton of fun finally finishing my Evasion, Constitution, and a couple other skills Lance set, and spent a lot of time at that point dodging straight through Agnaktor lasers and tail swipes and stuff feeling all :black101:

EDIT: Maybe it was Gravios instead of Agnaktor, but whichever. I miss the old monsters. :(

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Jet Set Jettison posted:

As a newbie to the series, I was curious and decided to look at the roster for Tri and compared it to 3U... :psyduck: Tri is practically nothing compared to 3U. If people can put 100+ hours into tri, I think I'll be playing 3U for the rest of my life...

I'm at nearly 150 hours, and I just now unlocked Goldbeard Ceadeus to get into G-rank. I have so many weapons and armor sets left that I want to craft, and I'm slowly working up the longsword chains while introducing my brother to Monster Hunter and helping him out, and there's all these quests I still need to do, it's crazy.

It's good to be back. :allears:

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

I've never played one of these before and just picked it up for the 3DS...uh, how do I leave town with a quest? I have a green icon over my head and can't use any of the exits. Is there a starter guide somewhere?

EthanSteele
Nov 18, 2007

I can hear you
Head to the little dock directly to the left of the guild sweetheart.

rhoga
Jun 4, 2012



mon chou

Go to the left. The upper pier, next to the guild station, is your way out.

edit: beaten

Bugamol
Aug 2, 2006
Found a +5 Evade charm last night. Felt pretty great about that. What charms are most people using? I replaced a +6 speed setup two slot charm.

Locke Dunnegan
Apr 25, 2005

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Comrade Flynn posted:

I've never played one of these before and just picked it up for the 3DS...uh, how do I leave town with a quest? I have a green icon over my head and can't use any of the exits. Is there a starter guide somewhere?

Your question is already answered, so I'll just say to pop into IRC to ask these questions and you'll probably get faster responses!

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Bugamol posted:

Found a +5 Evade charm last night. Felt pretty great about that. What charms are most people using? I replaced a +6 speed setup two slot charm.

At one point I found a +4 attack charm and it's been the most helpful at getting me to attack up L on a lot of sets, but now I mostly use a +7 expert charm or a +6 evade charm, depending on my weapon.

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


Bugamol posted:

Found a +5 Evade charm last night. Felt pretty great about that. What charms are most people using? I replaced a +6 speed setup two slot charm.

My two main ones are a gather/whim (1 slot) that bumps the leather gear up to divine whim and gather +2, and a health +6 that I gem up to health +50 for lack of better charms.

jymbojones
Jul 4, 2010
Like many others this is my first Monster Hunter game. I'm having a great time with both Offline and Online modes, but there's one thing that's just not "clicking" for me.

Underwater combat is a nightmare for me. I've carted 7-8 times in total in my 20ish hours of gameplay and every one was on Lagi or Gobul in the water. My biggest problems are (1) controlling where my dodge takes me; and (2) what you might describe as depth perception. I generally have no clue how close or far away I am from a monster. I'm either whiffing or standing on their head. This problem probably also accounts for my ill placed dodges. I've tried to use the lock on camera to orient myself and, while it does help some, I'm still struggling to get at a decent range in the water. For what it may be worth, I typically roll with Hammer, Lance, or Switch Axe.

I've never had a problem with depth perception like this ever. Not in a game nor in my everyday life. Is this just something that everyone experiences in this series and has to just learn to deal with, or am I missing something integral?

On a happier note, this morning I finished my Lagi set and had enough goodies left over to make a new Axe and Lance.:black101:

Locke Dunnegan
Apr 25, 2005

Respectable Bespectacled Receptacle
I dislike underwater fighting for much of the same reasons, and I've played every Stateside Monster Hunter release ever since the first game. MHP3rd was great in that it let me fight the new monsters and use the more polished abilities and such but not have to do the drat underwater bullshit. Funny thing is, I have very poor depth perception in real life but I only have a problem in the game when fighting underwater. I have become used to it for the most part though, it just takes some experience. Lagi is the big problem here, he is always a lot bigger than I give him credit for, and that throws off my attacks.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

I'm really happy MH4 won't have water fights. Does anyone actually like them at all?

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

Norns posted:

I'm really happy MH4 won't have water fights. Does anyone actually like them at all?

Was this actually confirmed? If so yay! :dance:

While I didn't have nearly as much trouble as some people, I certainly won't miss underwater fights.

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord
I have only just noticed there are two pages for fishing boat destinations :cry:

I'm 80 hours in.

Carecat fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Apr 8, 2013

WASDF
Jul 29, 2011

Can you not register MH3U on Club Nintendo?

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Speedboat Jones posted:

It seems pretty normal from what I hear of most people talking about their Moga forecasts. I go several quests in a row waiting for a good 5 star commodity-dropping monster. I don't care what kind of grind it'll take, I want the drat pumpkin suit.

I'm 9/18ths of the way to the ultimate corn-themed gunlance! It helps that when you start seeing subspecies they'll generally drop two of their rare trade items.

To Vex a Stranger
Mar 15, 2004
Rawr!

WASDF posted:

Can you not register MH3U on Club Nintendo?

Some Wii U games (ones not published by Nintendo, I believe) don't have codes. This and ZombiU for sure don't, but if you get them on the eShop you can. Awesome eh?

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

To Vex a Stranger posted:

Some Wii U games (ones not published by Nintendo, I believe) don't have codes. This and ZombiU for sure don't, but if you get them on the eShop you can. Awesome eh?

Mine (Wii U version) came with a code, but I'm in Europe so maybe it's an EU only thing

Help Im Alive fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Apr 8, 2013

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

KimT posted:

Mine came with a code, but I'm in Europe so maybe it's an EU only thing

My 3DS copy came with a code, but my brother didn't get one with his Wii U version. It seems pretty arbitrary.

To Vex a Stranger
Mar 15, 2004
Rawr!

Bussamove posted:

My 3DS copy came with a code, but my brother didn't get one with his Wii U version. It seems pretty arbitrary.

Well I got one in my 3DS version as well, but not on the Wii U. Club.nintendo.com doesn't list the Wii U version as having points unless it's under downloads.

Reginald Bathwater
Dec 19, 2009

MINE EYES CAN BUT WEEP AS THEY BEAR WITNESS TO THE MAJESTY... THE BFG 9000!
Diablos is absolutely disgusting without a heavy shield, but I feel like such a wuss hiding behind a G+2 gunlance for half an hour to beat him. All his charges seem to require a dive to avoid, plus he has lovely gen-1 hitboxes on half of his attacks.

Chaitai
Apr 15, 2006
Nope. I got nothin' witty to go here.

College Slice
Is there a huge difference in Razor Sharp and Sharp + 1? Will Sharp + 1 always give more sharpness than Razor Sharp? When I made the Wroggi set, I thought I was getting Sharp + 1, but it turns out to be Razor Sharp, which supposedly doubles your sharpness for each color.

scissorman
Feb 7, 2011
Ramrod XTreme
Do the monsters available in the night version of Moga Woods drop rare commodities?
I want to get a couple of 3 and 4 star trades and don't want to have to wait for anything bigger than the Great Jaggi to show up in the forecast.

YorexTheMad
Apr 16, 2007
OBAMA IS A FALSE MESSIAH

ABANDON ALL HOPE
Are the multiplayer servers down? I keep getting an error message saying "Could not retrieve World information." Internet works fine otherwise and the WiiU can connect to other internet stuff.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Diablos's hitboxes would be as bad as old Plesioth's if it weren't way smaller. Is the server down right now or something? I can't connect.

scissorman posted:

Do the monsters available in the night version of Moga Woods drop rare commodities?
I want to get a couple of 3 and 4 star trades and don't want to have to wait for anything bigger than the Great Jaggi to show up in the forecast.

Everything bigger than a Royal Ludroth will drop 3*+ items, 4* at night.

e: ^^^guess so

rhoga
Jun 4, 2012



mon chou

Chaitai posted:

Is there a huge difference in Razor Sharp and Sharp + 1? Will Sharp + 1 always give more sharpness than Razor Sharp? When I made the Wroggi set, I thought I was getting Sharp + 1, but it turns out to be Razor Sharp, which supposedly doubles your sharpness for each color.

Razor sharp and sharpness are pretty different when it comes to using them. Razor sharp is nice, it makes some weapons a lot more usable but all it does is halve sharpness loss and make it so you sharpen less.
Sharpness+1 is widely considered to be the best blademaster skill. It gives weapons more sharpness on the end their sharpness bar. Each weapon gets a different boost from it. Some get huge boosts, like the greatsword Blade of Tartarus, which goes from a little green sharpness to a usable purple sharpness. That's a 40% damage increase.
Its sharpness looks like this:

The top bar is normal, the bottom is with sharpness+1. Others, like nargacuga weapons, already max out at purple and get nothing. The narga greatsword's sharpness is:

No difference, no benefit from +1, but you could still use razor sharp and lose sharpness at half speed.

edit: added some examples

rhoga fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Apr 8, 2013

Buttermonster
Jul 11, 2003

YorexTheMad posted:

Are the multiplayer servers down? I keep getting an error message saying "Could not retrieve World information." Internet works fine otherwise and the WiiU can connect to other internet stuff.

People in Capcom unity are reporting the same. Servers are probably undergoing maintenance.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

With any luck, this is a sign of impending patch.

Bugamol
Aug 2, 2006

Reginald Bathwater posted:

Diablos is absolutely disgusting without a heavy shield, but I feel like such a wuss hiding behind a G+2 gunlance for half an hour to beat him. All his charges seem to require a dive to avoid, plus he has lovely gen-1 hitboxes on half of his attacks.

Are you sonic bombing him when he isn't enraged? That pretty much trivializes the fight. He will just flail around with just his head/back/wings sticking out of the ground. Once you exhaust him he will stay like that for even longer and if you manage to knock him out he will just lay there for an ungodly amount of time.

Trying to get g rank black diablos armor and pretty much have him down to a science.

1. Throw paintball.
2. Wait for him to go underground (sonic bomb him)
3. Wail on him and try and break both horns.
4. (HE WILL NEVER UNRAGE AGAIN OHGODWHY)
5. Profit.

Have him down to about 8 minutes duoing with a switchaxe buddy.

Tighran
Jun 28, 2004
So having finally broken into HR, I am a bit hesitant to proceed... I am fairly good at fighting monsters up to and including Barroth (oh and Rathian), but not so good after that. In fact I only fought Gigginox, Uragaan, Nibelsnarf, and Rathalos a single time each, and didn't fight Diablos or Agnaktor at all. Should I practice and learn them more on LR so I'm somewhat more prepared, or just keep going with HR and learn them new since they are somewhat different in HR? Or will that bite me in the rear end when I miss obvious tells and take huge amounts of HR damage?

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Bugamol posted:

Are you sonic bombing him when he isn't enraged? That pretty much trivializes the fight. He will just flail around with just his head/back/wings sticking out of the ground. Once you exhaust him he will stay like that for even longer and if you manage to knock him out he will just lay there for an ungodly amount of time.

Trying to get g rank black diablos armor and pretty much have him down to a science.

1. Throw paintball.
2. Wait for him to go underground (sonic bomb him)
3. Wail on him and try and break both horns.
4. (HE WILL NEVER UNRAGE AGAIN OHGODWHY)
5. Profit.

Have him down to about 8 minutes duoing with a switchaxe buddy.

Have you noticed that when fighting Diablos in freehunt they zone around once a minute? You can't sonic bomb them when they've burrowed to change zones, so I end up wasting like 70% of my bombs. I need that cornlance...

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Carecat posted:

I have only just noticed there are two pages for fishing boat destinations :cry:

I'm 80 hours in.
There are sometimes three pages :ssh:

Lizard Wizard posted:

With any luck, this is a sign of impending patch.

Rumor was that it would be April 19th, according to some news sites and people chattering on Miiverse. If it's April 9th that's even better.

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Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Is it worth bothering to keep up green sharpness on this longsword that has a tiny sliver of it (I get maybe 10 swings at most) and a great whack of yellow?

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