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Gustafsson should probably win narrowly on the feet and big on the ground, but the Shogun fight did demonstrate that A) there are big holes in his defense and B) he won't necessarily go for takedowns as much as he probably should. Mousasi does have pretty good power and accuracy on the feet, so he has the potential for an upset. Do I think he'll win? No, probably not, but if the odds against him are good enough it might be worth throwing some cash down on him.
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Bubba Smith posted:also Mousasi is really weird about training for fights, where he doesn't actually train for them at all, while Gustafsson trains pretty hard and has a good camp over at Alliance. Mousasi split this camp between Gokor's Angry Gang and Chakuriki Gym in Holland. If he looks like poo poo again then his fans are going to have to take Portuguese lessons, because he's training with great grapplers and a good assortment of Europe's enormous kickboxing supermutants under the tutelage of a legendary trainer.
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# ? Mar 30, 2013 20:49 |
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For what it's worth Mousasi's excuse for the Jardine fight was that around that time of the fight he stopped giving a poo poo about his fights and training, and he said now he actually cares about fighting and even more so now that he's in the UFC.
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Belle Isle Tech posted:For what it's worth Mousasi's excuse for the Jardine fight was that around that time of the fight he stopped giving a poo poo about his fights and training, and he said now he actually cares about fighting and even more so now that he's in the UFC. hold on, I think I've heard this joke before
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If Mousasi truly cared about his career, he'd have moved back to MW by now.
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Meat Recital posted:If Mousasi truly cared about his career, he'd have moved back to MW by now. but he's just too big! and he's eating so healthy, spaghetti bolognese (covered in cheese) and a red bull before training, and after training, chicken wings (covered in cheese), some nice healthy broccoli (covered in cheese), and a shitload of potato
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# ? Mar 30, 2013 23:41 |
ain't nothing wrong with covering things in cheese.
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# ? Mar 31, 2013 02:36 |
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Any takers?
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# ? Apr 3, 2013 02:33 |
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Steve Glutenberg posted:but he's just too big! and he's eating so healthy, spaghetti bolognese (covered in cheese) and a red bull before training, and after training, chicken wings (covered in cheese), some nice healthy broccoli (covered in cheese), and a shitload of potato those hosed up looking things are chicken wings covered in cheese? Someone post the louisgod slime steak POST HASTE
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# ? Apr 3, 2013 02:38 |
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Can anyone explain to me why the pearson cooter line is so big. Pearson -390 Cooter +320 5dimes. Looks like people were dropping cash on the replacement, lines already down to +600/800 depending on the site.
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# ? Apr 4, 2013 00:18 |
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Couture lost to KJ Noons and Pearson is pretty good.
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# ? Apr 4, 2013 02:32 |
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canoshiz posted:
that swedish guy is still a 'wrestler' so those odds are actually not too bad considering.
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# ? Apr 4, 2013 05:25 |
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At -140, Pat Curran is my favorite line I've seen in like, over a year. I have him big tonight.
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# ? Apr 4, 2013 17:05 |
Going to put a little bit on Latifi just because no one should be that big of a favorite in MMA. Especially if the favorite is Gegard Mousasi facing a wrestler.
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Ty1990 posted:At -140, Pat Curran is my favorite line I've seen in like, over a year. I have him big tonight. I haven't watched Bellator in a while but Pat Curran was legit when I did. How does this new guy stack up (his record makes him look like a KO machine)?
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Ninja PD posted:I haven't watched Bellator in a while but Pat Curran was legit when I did. How does this new guy stack up (his record makes him look like a KO machine)? Shahbulat "Shamwow" Shamhalaev's wiki page says he is an International Master of Muay Thai. I don't know what that is but it sounds amazing, and makes sense because he is really good at catching kicks and punching people unconscious. Since signing with Bellator Shamwow has been an underdog in every fight but keeps winning by early KO. Curran will be his toughest opponent so far. He also never makes weight and looks like a Sith Lord when he shaves his head (that's him in my AV). Have a highlight reel vainman fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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"Master of Sport" is a term in post-Soviet bloc countries for high level sport certification so that may just be a poor translation.
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# ? Apr 5, 2013 03:07 |
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Does jens pulver still have ability to beat asians or is he really that bad now.
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l3ruce posted:Does jens pulver still have ability to beat asians or is he really that bad now.
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# ? Apr 5, 2013 14:54 |
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I feel like such a oval office for not betting on Curran. It's not my heart that wants to trust Jens, it's my wallet. On a side note I can't get 5dimes to work from my phone. There is an issue with cookies apparently.
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First play of the night. Ticket#:13973792 Apr 13 09:10 PM INTERNET / -1 Apr 13 09:07 PM MU STRAIGHT BET [24317] G. SMITH +150 (G. SMITH vrs R. MCDANIEL) 10 / 15 Edit: My next play for the night. Ticket#:13974340 Apr 13 09:35 PM INTERNET / -1 Apr 13 09:29 PM MU STRAIGHT BET [24313] G. GONZAGA +180 (G. GONZAGA vrs T. BROWNE) 10 / 18 adding this one as well Ticket#:13974359 Apr 13 10:05 PM INTERNET / -1 Apr 13 09:33 PM MU STRAIGHT BET [24310] M. TATE (W) +105 (C. ZINGANO (W) vrs M. TATE (W)) 20 / 21 jase1 fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Apr 14, 2013 |
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ahahahahahahahahahahaha
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# ? Apr 14, 2013 18:26 |
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the lows of mma betting are amazing.
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# ? Apr 14, 2013 18:29 |
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I could have sworn I bet on Zingano, but apparently I did not. I would have won mad pennies on that fight. I did remember to bet on Gonzaga though, so gently caress me.
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Eh, I lost 1u last night - bet on both Tate and Zingano to win by submission @ .5u. There just wasn't much to bet on, IMO.
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# ? Apr 14, 2013 18:43 |
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jase1 please post earlier in the future so I can do the opposite
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# ? Apr 14, 2013 18:45 |
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Frank Mir has terrifically bad taste and isn't a great fighter, but I don't think he should be that far off in his odds vs. Cormier. Someone tell me how wrong I am.
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# ? Apr 18, 2013 19:42 |
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Grifter posted:Frank Mir has terrifically bad taste and isn't a great fighter, but I don't think he should be that far off in his odds vs. Cormier. Someone tell me how wrong I am. It's not overall skill level so much as that he has very few paths to victory. He's definitely going to be outstruck and outwrestled, and Cormier is going to be able to dictate the pace of the fight enough to avoid his sub game.
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# ? Apr 18, 2013 19:53 |
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I don't know much about MMA or betting on MMA, but from what I can tell Cormier is a faster, stronger and better striker with world-class wrestling. Mir's only chance would be to catch Cormier with a sub on the ground, but it's highly unlikely that Mir can take Cormier down. Cormier could probably take Mir down at will, but there's no reason for him to take it to the ground and put himself at risk, assuming I'm right in that he'll have a major advantage standing. Mir will also probably gas if this fight leaves the first.
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# ? Apr 18, 2013 19:56 |
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Cormier might be stronger I guess but I'd say since hes probably a diet away from 205 and Mir can hulk up to 250 and still be relatively quick and mobile there's a pretty good chance Cormier won't have a strength advantage Also as far as the striking I don't know why Cormier is so much better than Mir. Both guys have some good points and some bad points with their hands and they both mostly rely on them Bundt Cake fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Apr 18, 2013 |
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Grifter posted:Frank Mir has terrifically bad taste and isn't a great fighter, but I don't think he should be that far off in his odds vs. Cormier. Someone tell me how wrong I am. Mir's boxing isn't horrible by heaveyweight standards and Cormier's hands only looked good against Bigfoot iirc. He also has a tendency to break his hands pretty often. The line is a little bit off, but I still wouldn't bet money on Frank Mir though, DC's probably gonna smash him and take a 30-27 decision.
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MacDeuce posted:Mir's boxing isn't horrible by heaveyweight standards and Cormier's hands only looked good against Bigfoot iirc. He also has a tendency to break his hands pretty often. Cormier outclassed Barnett on the feet with movement and speed. Barnett has really solid boxing too.
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Fat Twitter Man posted:It's not overall skill level so much as that he has very few paths to victory. He's definitely going to be outstruck and outwrestled, and Cormier is going to be able to dictate the pace of the fight enough to avoid his sub game. It's not at all obvious that Cormier will be able to outstrike Mir, and even if he can outstrike him technically he could still very easily get hurt. Mir has significant power on the feet. If I had to bet I'd bet on Cormier because he's unquestionably the better wrestler, so if he figures he's better on the ground the fight's going to be there, and if he figures he's better on the feet the fight is going to be there. But it's not entirely clear he'll be better on the feet and even from the top it's far from obvious he's better on the ground.
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Boregasm posted:Cormier outclassed Barnett on the feet with movement and speed. Barnett has really solid boxing too. Barnett does have very solid boxing, but A) his game is very different from Mir's, and B) both Barnett and Cormier broke their hands in the first round of that fight so using it as a predictor for anything is fairly questionable.
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# ? Apr 18, 2013 20:20 |
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i'll probably place a tiny bet on mir as i think he's good as that much of an underdog, but i won't be picking cormier in any parlays. this fight is the most interesting on the card bet wise. i've got josh thomson as the (more)solid underdog, i honestly think he will kick the poo poo out of nate's legs and give him a bit of a wrasslin. can't wait to be wrong ya'll!
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# ? Apr 18, 2013 21:06 |
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Josh Thomson is a really talented guy but his entire loving body is made of a Cruz-Shogunium alloy and you're not going to know exactly what's wrong with him until it's too late. Good Luck Goon
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# ? Apr 18, 2013 21:21 |
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If I wasn't a Nate Diaz fan I'd be all over Thomson. Nate is at -210 at my book which is a bit loving absurd.
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# ? Apr 18, 2013 23:27 |
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I bet on Gonzaga and Tate too...
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 00:07 |
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I only say Cormier will outstrike Mir because he trains at AKA while Mir is discovering the power of Nodes and has been taught that effective MMA striking doesn't involve punching people or moving forward.
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fatherdog posted:It's not at all obvious that Cormier will be able to outstrike Mir, and even if he can outstrike him technically he could still very easily get hurt. Mir has significant power on the feet. Unless Mir has changed, from what I've seen, he has terrible, terrible striking defense for an elite fighter. I'm too lazy to actually research his fights, but looking it up on fightmetric, his striking defense is something around 40% compared to Cormier's 70%. That may be product of Mir being TKO'd in his couple of losses in his career, but even Roy Nelson has a higher striking defense and he lets people tee off on his head.
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