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crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

Green Bush Brother Benjamin. This is the booziest tasting IIPA I've ever had. Tastes like hops and alcohol. Would be okay for 4 oz. Gonna struggle with the 12 in front of me.

You're not kidding about that. I drain poured mine. I thought it was gross.

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danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

crazyfish posted:

You're not kidding about that. I drain poured mine. I thought it was gross.

It isn't good.

What is good is Haymarket's Indignari. No surprise since it's the base beer of Indignant, but holds its own against really good RIS.

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Last night I had a Solemn Oath Ticklefight barleywine dry hopped in cask with cascade hops, and drat it was really good. I haven't had a lot of barleywines, and haven't had anything out of a cask before. It was really boozy to start and finished with a cherry/plum taste. I couldn't have more than one.

Paul Proteus
Dec 6, 2007

Zombina says "si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!"


Beer share last night. It was certainly a huge step up from last time in terms of quality, and some were really out of this world good.

FV 13 is worth every overpriced penny. It had incredible balance with its sour and it was one of the best I've had in a while. BCBS 2009 is always fantastic, but a little thin in comparison to the more recent offerings. Low lights, if there really were any, was the BBQ, definitely missing a lot up front. Raspberry Truffle is also a really weird and rich beer.

Ivan the Terrible 2012
Bourbon Barrel Quad 2011
Rhizing Bines
Raspberry Truffle Abduction
Citra Ninja
Exponential Hoppiness
Serendipity
FV 13
BCBS 2009
Old Horizontal 2010
Turbodog
Svea IPA

Vertigo
Jul 15, 2002

Making my first trip to Weyerbacher for their tour/sampling today.

Should be a great time I'm hoping. excited to see what they offer pricewise at their brewery.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Paul Proteus posted:

FV 13 is worth every overpriced penny. It had incredible balance with its sour and it was one of the best I've had in a while. BCBS 2009 is always fantastic, but a little thin in comparison to the more recent offerings. Low lights, if there really were any, was the BBQ, definitely missing a lot up front. Raspberry Truffle is also a really weird and rich beer.

yeah, i couldn't believe the one keg of FV 13 that made it down here lasted long enough for me to drink more the next day. stoked that my Maine friend sent me a bottle (along with some Coolships and Jack's Abbey, yawn).

LOL @ Turbodog

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Paul Proteus posted:



Beer share last night. It was certainly a huge step up from last time in terms of quality, and some were really out of this world good.

FV 13 is worth every overpriced penny. It had incredible balance with its sour and it was one of the best I've had in a while. BCBS 2009 is always fantastic, but a little thin in comparison to the more recent offerings. Low lights, if there really were any, was the BBQ, definitely missing a lot up front. Raspberry Truffle is also a really weird and rich beer.

Ivan the Terrible 2012
Bourbon Barrel Quad 2011
Rhizing Bines
Raspberry Truffle Abduction
Citra Ninja
Exponential Hoppiness
Serendipity
FV 13
BCBS 2009
Old Horizontal 2010
Turbodog
Svea IPA

How was Turbodog not the "lowlight?"

09 BCBS is holding up like gold. The bottle I opened on X-Mas Eve ranks as one of the best single beers I've ever had.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


On record that FV13 was easily the best beer I've had in a year and probably instantly in my top 25 or so.

Ticallion Stallion
Jul 29, 2008

The Audacity Of Dope

HatfulOfHollow posted:

Ok. I started putting together a document for newbies.

This is the current list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zubmHYFrnDYcLnjgzzhvVkSUBwP6M47eoHvrwwJPPUk/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you HatfulOfHollow, your guide inspired me to hit my local beer store last night and make my own six-pack. I've now got a Victory Prima Pils, a Left Hand Milk Stout Nitro, a Founders Porter, a Ballast Sculpin IPA, an Allagash White and a Stone Ruination IPA.

As someone who just discovered this thread, something like this discussion that was going on a few pages ago is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for. I first started drinking non-macro beer back in college and now consider myself someone who is more knowledgeable than your average person on beer, but nowhere close to the level of most of the people in this thread.

A guide breaking down different styles of beer and giving a couple examples to seek out for each is great. What would be even more helpful to someone like me is if there were tasting notes for some of the beers written in a way newbies could easily understand. I think a lot of the gap between an "I know the difference between an IPA and a pilsner" person (like me) and someone truly knowledgeable about beer is a lack of vocabulary.

I would love to able to read along with a guide that walked me through a few examples showcasing different things to look for in a beer. Even something that had you try a mediocre version of a style and then a better version of that same style and pointed out the differences between the two.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

ShaneB posted:

On record that FV13 was easily the best beer I've had in a year and probably instantly in my top 25 or so.

Makes me excited to open mine then :)

Had a Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Cherry Stout last night. I'm glad I only have two bottles, because I didn't much care for it. It was quite cough-syrupy. The Peruvian Morning I had right before it, though, was fantastic.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Ticallion Stallion posted:

I would love to able to read along with a guide that walked me through a few examples showcasing different things to look for in a beer. Even something that had you try a mediocre version of a style and then a better version of that same style and pointed out the differences between the two.

it's probably more information than you really need, but you could check out the BJCP Style Center for a thorough breakdown between the different styles- what the main flavors and aromas are, commercially available examples, etc. you'll likely need to look up a few words (diacetyl, melanoidins, DMS), but it's very informative (and there's a mobile version). if you stick around the thread long you'll notice a strong dislike of beeradvocate.com, but their style page gives nice capsule summaries and allows you to scroll down to find what the site users consider to be the best examples. ratebeer.com tends to be a bit less ego- and rare-oriented, but their style guide is a little lighter on info. if you want an actual book, i enjoyed The Beer Trials and have heard that Tasting Beer is really good.

ChickenArise
May 12, 2010

POWER
= MEAT +
OPPORTUNITY
= BATTLEWORMS

Garregus posted:

DC Brau coming to Richmond, anyone had their stuff? What should I be looking for?

I'm going to have some slight disagreement here. OTWOA, firstly, isn't brewery only always. I distinctly recall getting a bottle at Total Wine once. Also PQP is in cans now and that's great. I prefer the Public to the Corruption, probably because Corruption is a Columbus single-hop beer and the Public is a good punch in the face of hops (and, kinda like Dale's, not really much of a pale ale). Some of their limited stuff is pretty good (the wedding beer for one of the owners was a citra bomb that I couldn't get enough of). I don't care for the Citizen, and I really didn't care for their attempts at sours.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
So I'm having my first Duchess de Bourgogne and this is delicious. I wish I had started here with sours instead of messing with others first. This is sweet and it allows my palate to get acquainted with the tart overlying it very easily. I really enjoy this. Where should I go next?

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence

Midorka posted:

So I'm having my first Duchess de Bourgogne and this is delicious. I wish I had started here with sours instead of messing with others first. This is sweet and it allows my palate to get acquainted with the tart overlying it very easily. I really enjoy this. Where should I go next?

Rodenbach Classic, Monk's Cafe, then Rodenbach Grand Cru

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Thank god a case of FV 13 found it's way into my basement.

LeafHouse
Apr 22, 2008

That's what you get for not hailing to the chimp!



FreelanceSocialist posted:

Thank god a case of FV 13 found it's way into my basement.

Holy poo poo a whole case? Daaaaamn! I stopped by whole foods on the right day and managed to pick up an FV13, 4 pack of Plead the Fifth and a bottle of Dayman. They only had like 6 FTV for sale.

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


Ticallion Stallion posted:

Thank you HatfulOfHollow, your guide inspired me to hit my local beer store last night and make my own six-pack.

Thanks dude! I'm glad it helped someone out. I really need to go finish the stout and porter sections and probably replace some of the beers on there but it's not bad for a first draft.

And for content, I just drank a Magic Hat Pistil that someone left in my fridge. I regret it. All I can taste now is this spicy vegetal flavor. It wasn't bad when I was sipping it but I finished the bottle 15 minutes ago and the aftertaste is still lingering.

deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Apr 13, 2013

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is FV 13?

I got to try Dayman last night, and drat was it fantastic. I've enjoyed about 75% of Stone's collabs I've tried, and this one definitely didn't disappoint. I was a bit apprehensive about a IPA/coffee pairing, but boy did the flavors mix well. I've said this before about Stone beers, and I'll say it again, "if this was brewed year round, I'd buy it all the time".

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Kudosx posted:

Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is FV 13?

"FV 13 marks our first venture into the world of foudre beers. Foudres are giant oak tanks used for aging (this one holds 2700 gallons.) FV 13 is a blend of wild yeast and bacteria, a base beer with lots of malt character, and about four years of patience. The finished beer is copper in color, with an aroma of cherries and caramel. The flavor is a blend of sweet and tart, with notes of fruit and caramelized sugar. The full mouthfeel gives way to a tart, mouth drying finish.

8.9% ABV. Released February 2013."


HatfulOfHollow posted:

And for content, I just drank a Magic Hat Pistil that someone left in my fridge. I regret it. All I can taste now is this spicy vegetal flavor. It wasn't bad when I was sipping it but I finished the bottle 15 minutes ago and the aftertaste is still lingering.

Magic Hat is my Dogfish Head

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence


Hesitated so hard at paying $7.50 for Lunch when the JA 4-pack is $8.99. Haven't tried it before though.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
If that is the latest batch of lunch, it's delicious.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence
3/26/13. Going to drink it in a few minutes. Can't wait for the BA Framinghammer too

update: Yup, Lunch was awesome. Very balanced. I'm glad I got to try it

TenaciousTomato fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Apr 14, 2013

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe


San Francisco knows what's up.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

^^^ rofl

Saw Lagunitas' "New Dogtown Pale Ale" for the first time in my area. This is a pretty good APA, although I feel like at 6.2% it's borderline IPA territory. I like a pale ale to be in the high 4's to mid 5's so I can have a few and not get wasted but that's just me. Other than that it's nice, very very hop forward with just enough malt sweetness to balance. Would buy again.

I had their Maximus IPA recently, too, and really enjoyed. It's true that most Lagunitas beer tastes pretty similar and if you like one you'll like most. But I like 'em, so I am glad they seem to be expanding and more readily available. The only real stinker I've had from them was "Censored Copper Ale" which was WAY too caramel sweet and fruity for my tastes.

Docjowles fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Apr 14, 2013

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Speaking of Allagash FV13, anybody have a few to trade? I've got plenty of beers from the Great Lakes area to trade and even some Cigar City beers.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

TenaciousTomato posted:

3/26/13. Going to drink it in a few minutes. Can't wait for the BA Framinghammer too

update: Yup, Lunch was awesome. Very balanced. I'm glad I got to try it

Balanced was a word I wouldn't use to describe Lunch. Overpriced and overly orange is how I would describe it. I wouldn't buy it again.

Docjowles posted:

^^^ rofl

Saw Lagunitas' "New Dogtown Pale Ale" for the first time in my area. This is a pretty good APA, although I feel like at 6.2% it's borderline IPA territory. I like a pale ale to be in the high 4's to mid 5's so I can have a few and not get wasted but that's just me. Other than that it's nice, very very hop forward with just enough malt sweetness to balance. Would buy again.

I think Lagunitas Pale Ale is pretty great, but I would like less alcohol on it also. I bought a 6 pack for a party and split it with my girlfriend. I really had to nurse them.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence

Midorka posted:

Balanced was a word I wouldn't use to describe Lunch. Overpriced and overly orange is how I would describe it. I wouldn't buy it again.

It was very citrus-y. Definitely overpriced. Still glad I got to try it but I wouldn't spend that again. Wormtown's Be Hoppy was better imo

TenaciousTomato fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Apr 14, 2013

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi
Goddam those Maine labels are so loving perfect... I really need to get my brother in brooklyn to send me some MO when he finds it.

It's been a drinking-by-myself-while-I-clean-day for me. Pipeworks' Ninja v. Unicorn, Something Hoppy This Way Comes, Jester King's Le Petit Prince, a couple of Sucks...

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

ChickenArise posted:

I'm going to have some slight disagreement here. OTWOA, firstly, isn't brewery only always. I distinctly recall getting a bottle at Total Wine once. Also PQP is in cans now and that's great. I prefer the Public to the Corruption, probably because Corruption is a Columbus single-hop beer and the Public is a good punch in the face of hops (and, kinda like Dale's, not really much of a pale ale). Some of their limited stuff is pretty good (the wedding beer for one of the owners was a citra bomb that I couldn't get enough of). I don't care for the Citizen, and I really didn't care for their attempts at sours.

This for me. Otwoa is awesome. The corruption is not. The public is extremely similar to dales and is great, but better off buying dales for cheaper.

GigaFool
Oct 22, 2001

Docjowles posted:

Saw Lagunitas' "New Dogtown Pale Ale" for the first time in my area. This is a pretty good APA, although I feel like at 6.2% it's borderline IPA territory.

What's funny is their IPA is also 6.2%. I do like their IPA but for some reason, New Dogtown Pale Ale is my favorite beer to drink on a regular basis.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!
I went to Fat Head's tonight. I had been there before, but this was my first time going there with a DD, so I got to a try a ton of stuff.

I started off with something familiar, IBUsive, an awesome IPA from Fat Head's which rivals Head Hunter, and is far more /citrusy vs the intense pine flavor of Head Hunter. I followed it up with a cask conditioned Head Hunter, which wasn't nearly as awesome as I was hoping. This was my first cask conditioned beer, and I found it to be a less-carbonated, more dull Head Hunter. I didn't find the flavors to be as intense as I was hoping, although it was still quite good, then again, Head Hunter is one of my favorite beers. I then followed that up with a Coronado Idiot IPA, which I found underwhelming after the former two. Idiot is advertised as an Imperial IPA, but I found it to be less flavorful than both IBUsive and Head Hunter.

I then decided that I had enough to drink, and decided to only split samples with my friends for the remaining few beers, which ended up being about 1 oz each. I got to try Hop Lightning, an "India Barleywine Ale" by Fat Head's, which was pretty awesome. It was quite hoppy, but not quite as hoppy as say, fresh Old Guardian. I wish I had been able to try a pint of every sample beer I got, this was the start of some awesome beers.

I also got samples of Bean Me Up Imperial Koffee Stout from Fat Head's, Saison #1, and Motley Brew, a Belgian Strong Ale collaboration between Columbus Brewing Co. and Fat Head's. Both of these beers were pretty good, although I don't consider them nearly as awesome as most of Fat Head's IPAs. I would drink these again, but I would be more inclined to get an IBUsive before both of these. Saison #1 is apparently the first ever beer Fat Head's ever brewed, and I found it to be an above average saison. Two of my friends had never tried saisons before, and they both enjoyed it immensely.

I ended the night with a 2010 Victor Old Horizontal. This was a fantastic beer, and even though it was super smooth, and there was no alcohol taste, I couldn't help but feel like I was drinking a big beer. This had tons of caramel and vanilla flavor, and was probably tied with IBUsive for the best beer of the night. This was my first time trying Old Horizontal, and I'm glad I was able to try a vintage the first go-around.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

danbanana posted:

Goddam those Maine labels are so loving perfect... I really need to get my brother in brooklyn to send me some MO when he finds it.


E-mail me at isprettyrandom (at) gmail and I can send you any Maine beer pretty much. They're all making their way to NJ.

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

danbanana posted:

Green Bush Brother Benjamin. This is the booziest tasting IIPA I've ever had. Tastes like hops and alcohol. Would be okay for 4 oz. Gonna struggle with the 12 in front of me.

Man, glad I didn't grab that for my most-recent pick-six, then. I did grab Greenbush's regular IPA, Dunegras, which was entirely respectable if not in any way really notable. I also snagged a Sixpoint Resin, which I didn't much care for. Too syrupy on the mouthfeel and astringent on the finish. Not as balanced as I like in an IPA. I was, however, a big fan of the Deviant Dale's I also tried, and I have an Alchemy Hour waiting for me to sample as well.

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
A well-meaning friend brought a very special beer to my engagement party last night - when she pulled the Pepto-Bismol pink bottle out of the bag, all the beer nerds groaned in unison.

In all seriousness I had no idea that Rogue made another Voodoo Doughnut beer - this one is "Chocolate, Peanut Butter, & Banana Ale." Actually not totally horrific but I could not have drank more than I did. We split it among everyone in the party using far too many shot glasses. At least it was a good time?

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Drinking my first ever gose right now (local option's contract brewed version). Really interesting style, mixes up salt and sour and, without too much of either, yields something quite refreshing. Can't wait to try Off Color's interpretation when they get their brewery going.

Also, ShaneB, since I know you're a big saison brett fan, Northdown tapped a cellared 2012 keg not long ago, maybe in the past day or two? Not sure if it's still on but I thought i'd give ya a heads up.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
You might be able to get Sam Adams gose, "Verloren". Has an owl on the bottle. Great beer and pretty easy to find. Cheap, too.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

I think he's ready for a chair

FreelanceSocialist posted:

You might be able to get Sam Adams gose, "Verloren". Has an owl on the bottle. Great beer and pretty easy to find. Cheap, too.

If Vorloren is even close to a Gose, than I am a monkey's uncle. I was under the impression Gose was supposed to be sour, Vorloren wasn't even remotely.

Furious Lobster
Jun 17, 2006

Soiled Meat
If anyone is looking for Firestone XV, I stumbled across a couple of bottles at a fairly new bottle shop's opening in DC.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


RiggenBlaque posted:

If Vorloren is even close to a Gose, than I am a monkey's uncle. I was under the impression Gose was supposed to be sour, Vorloren wasn't even remotely.

Geuze/gueuze is sour. Gose is a style brewed with salt (or naturally saline water) giving it a salty flavor. Some tartness is generally part of the flavor profile as well, but it's not sour like a geuze is. At least that's true of the examples I've tried. Supposedly they're supposed to be partly lacto-fermented, so that may vary a lot by brewery.

bartolimu fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Apr 14, 2013

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cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

bartolimu posted:

Geuze/gueuze is sour. Gose is a style brewed with salt (or naturally saline water) giving it a salty flavor. Some tartness is generally part of the flavor profile as well, but it's not sour like a geuze is. At least that's true of the examples I've tried. Supposedly they're supposed to be partly lacto-fermented, so that may vary a lot by brewery.

they're generally tart in the way a berliner weisse is tart. veloren was a bore.

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