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DrPop
Aug 22, 2004


I just bought V2 + AHD + HoD and I keep getting this error when it tries to load "maplogic"



What's the deal, yo?

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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


its mad that you broke the tables

logger
Jun 28, 2008

...and in what manner the Ancyent Marinere came back to his own Country.
Soiled Meat

DrPop posted:

I just bought V2 + AHD + HoD and I keep getting this error when it tries to load "maplogic"



What's the deal, yo?

In the folder you downloaded your game to click the /map folder and delete the folder inside it that says cache.

Be sure not to delete the /map file itself.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
Is there still really no way to upgrade forts/railroads/naval bases en masse? This is driving me nuts.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

uPen posted:

Is there still really no way to upgrade forts/railroads/naval bases en masse? This is driving me nuts.

Press CTRL+Click on the railroad/fort/naval base button. This builds all the buildings in every province in that state. It tells you this if you hover over the button.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

DrSunshine posted:

Press CTRL+Click on the railroad/fort/naval base button. This builds all the buildings in every province in that state. It tells you this if you hover over the button.

:worship: Thank you.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Drone posted:

You'll have to either: 1.) become a democracy and then get the socialist or communist party in power, or 2.) have a successful socialist/communist revolution.

This is wrong. The party you have in power has no effect on immigration desirability, and neither does having a proletarian dictatorship. Desirability IS affected by low unemployment, having the same culture as the migrating POP, having at least wealth voting (even more for weight universal and universal), being in North America/South America/Oceania, and for each political and social reform selected.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I think I found a bug:



The "Tractors" modifier does not reduce RGO size. Not sure if "Commercial Retailers" should, but it doesn't, either.

"Mechanized Mining" I think should increase RGO size, but that doesn't happen either.

Unless these were all deliberately removed for some reason.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I believe all effects that reduce RGO size were removed. All the techs in the power line used to reduce RGO size, but they don't anymore.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
Sweden rules a united Scandinavia, Scandinavia rules the Denmark peninsula and is a puppet of Denmark, which rules a single island off the coast of the peninsula. :psyduck:

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

uPen posted:

Sweden rules a united Scandinavia, Scandinavia rules the Denmark peninsula and is a puppet of Denmark, which rules a single island off the coast of the peninsula. :psyduck:

You can't just post that without a screenshot.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Fister Roboto posted:

I believe all effects that reduce RGO size were removed. All the techs in the power line used to reduce RGO size, but they don't anymore.

Doesn't that have some pretty big consequences for urbanization? Or was making urbanization more difficult to do exactly the point of the removal.

Kablammo
Oct 23, 2010
Let me regale you with the tale of how glorious Mongolia became the richest, most prestigious country in the world. A superpower capable of taking on the three most powerful great powers in the world.

Picture the scene: World war one has just broken out over the claims of Great Britain and the Empire of Russia over a particularly nice sand dune in the Sahara desert. The forces of the UK, the Ottoman empire and Prussia, aided by their various vassals and dominions face off against every other European power and their spheres in the largest, most bloodiest war in history.

After several years of fighting, the British alliance has all but won the war. Vienna and the Austrian heartlands are occupied, the forces of Russia are broken and France has lost all of its holdings outside of Europe. The Ottomans are rampaging across the map while the UK brings the world to its knees with a European blockade.



Suddenly comes a knocking at the door of the throne room the Ottoman Sultan. Repo men barge in and confiscate his throne, his harem and all the finery in the palace, citing the immense debts of the empire.the Sultan demands that his guards execute the traitors taking his throne, but his guards have dissipated into the ether along with 3/4 of the Ottoman Army.

The Sultan is confused; The Ottoman empire had been economically stable for the entire war. He goes to his treasury and cries in anguish. It is completely empty save for three gold coins sparkling by the torchlight, and a small paper note on the floor. the Sultan picks it up and furrows his brow as he reads it.

"I O U 100,000 pounds sterling as part of the terms of surrender of the alliance of the UK, Ottoman Empire, Prussia and all of their allies in the Great War."


The Sultan, confused, asks his foreign advisers what the gently caress is going on. The Empire is still at war with every enemy. Russia, France, Spain and Austria. Why in the name of Allah are they paying thousands daily in war indemnities? Then the Sultan remembers something. A horrible, ominous thought crosses his mind. The Empire is still at war with all of the same European great powers. It was even at war with the same World Wide great powers. But there was one country that the Empire was no longer at war with....

Furious, the Sultan dispatches an emissary to the Prime Minister of the UK asking for confirmation on his worst fears. Could the United Kingdom have really done this? Single handedly lost World War One by bringing England and her allies into crippling debt and automatically disbanding their armies, whilst remaining at war with all of Europe? Could they really have surrendered under the terms of a Great War Capitulation to...




Mongolia???




Meanwhile, the King of Mongolia relaxes in his new Solid Gold palace. Mongolia was now the richest, most prestigious country on Earth. In the past few days he had received praise from the UK, USA, Russia and every other great power worldwide about the prestige of the Kingdom of Mongolia and how no other country would ever match its importance. In between sips of the finest wine from France and some excellent Cuban-American cigars he patted himself on the back for sending Mongolia's 2 regiments of irregulars across allied Russia and reinforcing a fight between Russia and the UK with 10:1 superiority in numbers. He also reminded himself how nice it was that Britain's ambassadors has the IQ of a yak and offered him the full surrender of the British, Ottoman, German alliance so that Mongolia's 2 regiments would exit the war.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...
I played around with HoD a bit more. Colonization is really cool! It's also really :smith:. Sorry Greenlandbros, it was nothing personal.... I just really wanted to lower the population enough to move some French Canadians there and get a majority.



All of Greenland, save for Godthab, have been reduced to no people (it reports 1 person but when you look at the pop charts, all of them are empty), and Godthab has 2.5k people, mostly Danes with 10% Innuit and 15% French Canadian. I did it by constantly getting that event where you can lower the population by 5, raise con and lose mil, or lower it by 25 and lose one mil and picking the second option, plus some smallpox.

At least I managed to turn Jylland into a multicultural socialist state? After initially conquering it and making it a slave state, of course (reactionaries took over early game so I had some fun :v:).


Also the new colonizing is fun. I managed to grab up much of Africa by tying up France and Spain on costal regions as I pressed deeper into Africa, and then cutting them loose and letting them have their one costal province while I had already encircled much of western Africa.


E:tables

burnishedfume fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Apr 18, 2013

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Hahahaha holy poo poo is this HoD?

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

You can't just post that without a screenshot.



Scandinavia also owns Iceland and Greenland with their capital being in the latter. The rebels you see in Sweden are Scandinavian pan-nationalists.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

Ferrosol posted:

Oh god Paradox makes the best adverts games. I want this

That is incredible, Paradox take my money right now.

Kablammo
Oct 23, 2010

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Hahahaha holy poo poo is this HoD?

Sure is. Now all I have to do is figure out the best way to un-gently caress my game at the save before the stpidity happens.

Wolfgang Pauli
Mar 26, 2008

One Three Seven

DrSunshine posted:

I don't really remember, as I rarely looked out of my own neck of the world. Mostly I was too concerned with taking over South and Central America and containing the USA, so I never really glanced at what was going on in China. China did modernize and become a GP as Beiyang China, though, sometime around the 1910s.
This is probably it, then. China starts hemorrhaging population once it modernizes.

Beamed posted:

Okay, I definitely think this expansion's a bit unstable and dominions is a bit weird (but definitely not gamebreaking, seriously guys?), but criticizing Paradox for making a Dark Souls joke? Really?
The joke went over my head because I really don't care about Dark Souls :shrug: And yeah, if it's in the game then its open to criticism. I'm not up in arms demanding it be fixed in a patch, I'm just saying its a lousy joke. We made fun of factroys, too.

uPen posted:

:worship: Thank you.
I'm so sorry you went this long without knowing this.

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Hahahaha holy poo poo is this HoD?
AI has been running wild with making unilaterally stupid peace decisions. I had to bring my Austrian protector into my Tuscan war for Tunis because the Ottomans got pulled in (not only were they no longer sphere owners, their army that outnumbered me 2:1 sat on the border with Tunis and did nothing). Austria adds a wargoal to nab Bosnia, gets into some heavy poo poo in the Balkans while I snatch Tunis and get the warscore up. Boom. They peace out and choose their wargoal over the primary one of the war that was way cheaper. I had to go back on my own and seize Tunis 5 years later.

I'd complain, but that sounds about right for 19th century European intervention.

Wolfgang Pauli fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Apr 18, 2013

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Wolfgang Pauli posted:

I'm so sorry you went this long without knowing this.


It honestly doesn't help that much. I'd much prefer a spreadsheet that let me see what provinces had what improvements at what level and do it all from one screen rather than having to click around on the map until a button lights up and mashing it. All this does is reduce the amount of mindless clicking from overwhelming to still pretty dumb levels.

e: Or now that having high level naval bases is really important it would be nice for me to have a checkbox on the province that says make this as big as possible and keep it that way.

Hefty Leftist
Jun 26, 2011

"You know how vodka or whiskey are distilled multiple times to taste good? It's the same with shit. After being digested for the third time shit starts to taste reeeeeeaaaally yummy."


Is there any way at all I can set a CB to take border provinces instead of states? I want to make uncivs be able to expand their borders, without places like Bukhara taking half of Afghanistan.

Hefty Leftist fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Apr 18, 2013

GO FUCK YOURSELF
Aug 19, 2004

"I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who beat you, and pray for them to beat the shit out of the Buckeyes" - The Book of Witten
So I'm getting a persistent crash to desktop after installing HoD at the "Creating Rivers" screen. I've deleted my map cache folder and the crash persists. I've uninstalled and reinstalled and same issue (including deleting the map/cache folder). I don't know where to pull an error message from that would illuminate the issue. My error log has lots of issues with provinces and three missing flags but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. Can someone spoon feed me here? I've not had a problem like this before.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


GO gently caress YOURSELF posted:

So I'm getting a persistent crash to desktop after installing HoD at the "Creating Rivers" screen. I've deleted my map cache folder and the crash persists. I've uninstalled and reinstalled and same issue (including deleting the map/cache folder). I don't know where to pull an error message from that would illuminate the issue. My error log has lots of issues with provinces and three missing flags but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. Can someone spoon feed me here? I've not had a problem like this before.

Check your game directory as well as the documents/map/cache folder, sometimes both caches exist which make the game crash.

I wish that Paradox would add what Firaxis did and let you hold down shift or something when it's booting to clear the cache automatically before it generates a new one.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

uPen posted:

It honestly doesn't help that much. I'd much prefer a spreadsheet that let me see what provinces had what improvements at what level and do it all from one screen rather than having to click around on the map until a button lights up and mashing it. All this does is reduce the amount of mindless clicking from overwhelming to still pretty dumb levels.

e: Or now that having high level naval bases is really important it would be nice for me to have a checkbox on the province that says make this as big as possible and keep it that way.

I've been asking for a "(Fort/Naval Base) Construction" mapmode for a while now, but they didn't have any more room on the UI for another mapmode button :(

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
I want my colonization poo poo to show up on that left hand side smartlistthing.

GO FUCK YOURSELF
Aug 19, 2004

"I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who beat you, and pray for them to beat the shit out of the Buckeyes" - The Book of Witten

Beamed posted:

Check your game directory as well as the documents/map/cache folder, sometimes both caches exist which make the game crash.

I wish that Paradox would add what Firaxis did and let you hold down shift or something when it's booting to clear the cache automatically before it generates a new one.

Yup, it looks like I didn't delete the Map cache in the My Documents folder. That's super confusing that there are two!

ChikoDemono
Jul 10, 2007

He said that he would stay forever.

Forever wasn't very long...


This Japanese AAR linked earlier in the thread has been a god send. The OP explains just about everything in the game and most of it is still relevant for the latest expansion. Had a fun time westernizing around 1856 or so and then dogpiled because I had 34 infamy from conquering. Whoops.

Was pretty easy to westernize. Get the reforms where you get more research points from conquering then go island hopping.

Vivian Darkbloom
Jul 14, 2004


I picked up HoD, having only played 2 or 3 long games of Vicky II before. And by 1853, my Japan has taken Korea and is totally westernized! I guess other people have done this with Japan too? It seems like things are a lot easier this way, I basically have a country that's as powerful as Sweden and could probably make it into the top 4 GPs by the end of the game. I guess that's not all that ahistorical, as Japan was doing pretty ok for itself by the end of the Vicky timeframe.

Vivian Darkbloom fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Apr 18, 2013

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Vicky just went on sale on steam for 9.99e complete (:siren:NOT:siren: including HoD). Good deal :)

Quick question: is there a better way of seeing what RGO a province has? It doesn't show if you zoom up a bit and the icons are tiny, so it takes a lot of squinting :(

Edit: :downs:

Woops, BAD typo.

canepazzo fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Apr 18, 2013

Noreaus
May 22, 2008

HEY, WHAT'S HAPPENING? :)

canepazzo posted:

Vicky just went on sale on steam for 9.99e complete (including HoD). Good deal :)


:siren: This deal does not include A Heart of Darkness :siren:

I had to check because that would be a frankly ridiculous discount for the third day of sales. Everything (including "spritepacks") else is at 75% off.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Noreaus posted:

:siren: This deal does not include A Heart of Darkness :siren:

I had to check because that would be a frankly ridiculous discount for the third day of sales.

poo poo, sorry about that. Amended.

Noreaus
May 22, 2008

HEY, WHAT'S HAPPENING? :)

canepazzo posted:

poo poo, sorry about that. Amended.

The worst part is that I was typing out a message about how that meant it was an instant buy, when I saw the bad news! I'll have to wait until the summer sale.

However, if people are still on the fence about V2 as a whole, it's a drat fine deal.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
Is Ricky any good or is the learning curve far too steep for $2.50?

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

LP97S posted:

Is Ricky any good or is the learning curve far too steep for $2.50?

Victoria: An Empire Under The Sun: Revolutions is the best video game ever made.

meatbag
Apr 2, 2007
Clapping Larry
Splitting pops has to be the most :psyduck: mechanic in any game ever. Alternatively, I'm too stupid to properly understand it.

Vivian Darkbloom
Jul 14, 2004


meatbag posted:

Splitting pops has to be the most :psyduck: mechanic in any game ever. Alternatively, I'm too stupid to properly understand it.

Just pretend you can't split them, the AI doesn't do it and it's boring stupid micromanagement.

Jabu
Feb 11, 2004

There are no heroes left in man
Feeling like Napoleon.



It's crazy how fast a late-game army takes provinces.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Jabu posted:

It's crazy how fast a late-game army takes provinces.

That's really the point though isn't it? The game straddles the point at which fortifications with garrisons stop being a problem for a modern army and you need another army to block it's path.

podcat
Jun 21, 2012

Patter Song posted:

Pop of Darkness




GO gently caress YOURSELF posted:

Yup, it looks like I didn't delete the Map cache in the My Documents folder. That's super confusing that there are two!

the one in Documents is the one you might have to clear. The one in the game directory, basically never unless you did crazy stuff with your install.

also yeah, I know its a bit annoying.

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Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes

Wolfgang Pauli posted:

The joke went over my head because I really don't care about Dark Souls :shrug: And yeah, if it's in the game then its open to criticism. I'm not up in arms demanding it be fixed in a patch, I'm just saying its a lousy joke. We made fun of factroys, too.

It was a great joke that others in the thread enjoyed, you are bad at getting jokes :colbert:

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