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This one came up yesterday between a couple of my friends. This happens pretty regularly. Red is a typical milquetoast liberal, black is a libertarian veteran. Blue is an Englishman. There's more if you want 'em.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 01:25 |
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# ? Jun 12, 2024 22:01 |
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Mo_Steel posted:For those unaware, spring in Minnesota has been colder than usual. As in it's snowing outside right now, and we're practically in May. The number of people commenting "heh, al gore global warming amirite" is reaching some sort of loving critical mass on Facebook and at this point I'm just not even sure where or if to begin. I don't have a desire to take general laments about the weather into some argument over the merits of climate science just because someone brings up Al Gore or global warming but I do think promoting absolutely basic scientific literacy is a good thing in general. Really? I haven't been getting any of that. A bunch of people complaining about the cold but no digs at global warming yet. I just want to argue on facebook
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 01:29 |
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I've seen it twice so far in this thread today. If people are going to say "Your an idiot", they should really remember to make it You're*
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 01:32 |
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Amused to Death posted:What's the point? I mean really, you can't reason with that level of stupidity. Ironically, when the blizzard to end all blizzards hit here in New England back in February the opposite effect happened, people were more convinced something was very wrong with the weather. Apparently all you need to get people to star believing science is two hurricanes, one of them being so bad it's called a Frankenstorm, a once in a century blizzard, and a freak early October ice storm, all happening within a year and half of each other. Who knew it was so easy! More so that this sort of bullshit doesn't go unchallenged. Very few people will point to global warming in an unseasonably warm period because (rightfully so) it's not itself evidence of global warming; the only time you see most anything about it is people criticizing the idea, which gives the impression to others that the idea is up in the air.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 02:04 |
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Amused to Death posted:I've seen it twice so far in this thread today. If people are going to say "Your an idiot", they should really remember to make it You're* The proper response is "my an idiot".
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 02:47 |
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I think people started calling it "climate change" instead of "global warming" precisely because of all the "well how can it be global WARMING if the winter's so cold?!", besides the fact that "climate change" is technically more accurate because besides resulting in hotter summers, it does also result in more extreme weather on the opposite end of the spectrum (I'm not sure if I should explicitly say "colder winters") There was also a chart I remember posted elsewhere in D&D that showed that average temperatures really are going up, but only if you go back by decades. If you only go back by years, people who don't believe in climate change are going to point out periods of cooling without realizing that it's just the El Nino-La Nina cycle.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 04:27 |
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Plus weren't there also a crazy number of storms and hurricanes last year, which also falls under the purview of climate change?
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 04:30 |
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I have a pro-gun friend gloating on Facebook about the defeat of the Senate bills yesterday. I asked specifically about the background checks and he said the bill was poorly written and we should enforce the laws we have. The second is nonsense, but the first was not something I'd expected. I've asked for examples, but are there any decent (re: not produced by the NRA) analyses of the proposed expansion of background checks.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 05:27 |
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Brennanite posted:I have a pro-gun friend gloating on Facebook about the defeat of the Senate bills yesterday. I asked specifically about the background checks and he said the bill was poorly written and we should enforce the laws we have. The second is nonsense, but the first was not something I'd expected. I've asked for examples, but are there any decent (re: not produced by the NRA) analyses of the proposed expansion of background checks. I'm actually honestly curious, why do you say its nonsense to "enforce the laws we already have"? I hear that parroted by all the radio talking heads too.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 06:03 |
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Ramadu posted:I'm actually honestly curious, why do you say its nonsense to "enforce the laws we already have"? I hear that parroted by all the radio talking heads too. It's nonsense in part because the NRA has spent decades pushing legislation to make it practically impossible to do so.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 06:08 |
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Ramadu posted:I'm actually honestly curious, why do you say its nonsense to "enforce the laws we already have"? I hear that parroted by all the radio talking heads too. 2) Anytime there is a mass shooting, observe that all the guns involved were acquired legally or illegally so what's the point of more gun laws
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 06:13 |
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3) Defund and understaff the ATF to the point of uselessness. Also pass laws that prevent the ATF from doing their job properly. Laws written by..... The NRA. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/01/17/jon-stewart-nra-limiting-atf-law-enforcement_n_2495301.html http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...urrent-gun-laws There's more articles where those came from. Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Apr 19, 2013 |
# ? Apr 19, 2013 06:22 |
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Amused to Death posted:I've seen it twice so far in this thread today. If people are going to say "Your an idiot", they should really remember to make it You're* Sometimes there are people like me, who know the difference, but type the wrong thing anyway because it annoys people like you. If you know what they mean, attacking a person's grammar over their argument is pretty weak. I don't mind people thinking I'm dumber than I am, either.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 06:22 |
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nsaP posted:Sometimes there are people like me, who know the difference, but type the wrong thing anyway because it annoys people like you. If you know what they mean, attacking a person's grammar over their argument is pretty weak. I don't mind people thinking I'm dumber than I am, either. It normally wouldn't annoy me, it just carries cosmic irony making a grammar mistake that large when calling someone else an idiot.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 14:16 |
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Amused to Death posted:It normally wouldn't annoy me, it just carries cosmic irony making a grammar mistake that large when calling someone else an idiot.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 15:31 |
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He responded with "Go ahead, you blame him for everything else!" to which I pointed out that that meme attributes an act of vandalism, an industrial accident and one event I couldn't really find any info on as an attack on American soil. I then pointed out there were several industrial accidents under Bush's watch and it hasn't been 12 years if you are going to count accidents. I'm amazed he didn't mention Benghazi.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 15:44 |
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You could respond with the fact the attackers in Boston are Chechen, and apparently came here 10 years ago on an asylum visa, so yeah, it is Bush's fault
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 15:46 |
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nsaP posted:Sometimes there are people like me, who know the difference, but type the wrong thing anyway because it annoys people like you. If you know what they mean, attacking a person's grammar over their argument is pretty weak. I don't mind people thinking I'm dumber than I am, either. Contrariwise, if somebody's grammar is so bad I can't understand their argument, I feel somewhat justified in hammering it mercilessly. Especially when they're being a poo poo anyway.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 16:06 |
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I finally got that Bill Cosby "I'm old and tired" on my Facebook feed.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 17:51 |
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Mornacale posted:It's nonsense in part because the NRA has spent decades pushing legislation to make it practically impossible to do so.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 20:06 |
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I like the MOHAMMAD OBAMA part. No, I'm not racist. You're the racist for even thinking that's racist, man.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 20:39 |
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Congratulations to Newscorp for effectively creating a right-wing meme out of whole cloth by just straight up lying about a Saudi suspect though. That takes some real chops.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 22:45 |
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Dad just posted this:quote:Anyone else a little freaked out byhm how a city of millions just meekly submitted to martial law? Because an unenforced "stay inside" order constitutes martial law. Oh dad.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 23:26 |
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just got retweeted on my feed
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 23:32 |
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Mornacale posted:Congratulations to Newscorp for effectively creating a right-wing meme out of whole cloth by just straight up lying about a Saudi suspect though. That takes some real chops. I've seen so much about this. Anyway to combat it?
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 23:36 |
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Sir Rolo posted:
This is what we do now. We taunt victims of terrorist attacks while they're ongoing.
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 23:38 |
This recently got posted on my feed:quote:To understand why America's economy is still so bad, listen to this Columbia graduate, Wayne Root (graduated in same class as Obama), talk about what they learned in college. Just consider how much of this is actually happening, and being pushed I'm guessing whatever Cloward and Piven were teaching wasn't actually about "wanting to bring Americans to their knees"?
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# ? Apr 19, 2013 23:50 |
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Zerilan posted:This recently got posted on my feed: Not unless you actually believe there's a grand scheme of things whose end goal is to send the nation into completely economic disaster for the sole purpose of lowering campaign contribution to Republicans. Also you'd have to believe a person who used the phrase quote:A system based on fairness, equality and social justice as a pejorative.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 00:00 |
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Also you have to believe that any human in the entire earth wants to expand the size of government as an end to itself. Nobody exists who favors "big government" in the way that conservatives use it, only "government that has certain powers/responsibilities that others might not prefer". I know Ivies aren't the be-all end-all, but I'm pretty sure their political science courses should be good enough to point that out.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 00:05 |
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Zerilan posted:This recently got posted on my feed: I'd be tempted to respond with this graph: Yeah, socialism looks sooooo bad that a vast majority of Americans prefer literal Communism with exactly equal wealth distribution to the current American system of rampant inequality.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 00:06 |
Actually that graph looks like a nice thing to respond with, especially fitting since the guy posting that knows I'm doing a study abroad year in Sweden in a couple months. What's its source?
Evrart Claire fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 00:17 |
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I want to find the 8% of people who picked that U.S. chart over Sweden and destroy them.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 00:22 |
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Zerilan posted:Actually that graph looks like a nice thing to respond with, especially fitting since the guy posting that knows I'm doing a study abroad year in Sweden in a couple months. What's its source? http://www.people.hbs.edu/mnorton/norton%20ariely%20in%20press.pdf Mornacale posted:I want to find the 8% of people who picked that U.S. chart over Sweden and destroy them. Welcome to the Communist Party
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 00:50 |
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Sir Rolo posted:
What a loving rear end in a top hat. How about all those armed, trained police officers, who got hurt by these guys and had guns? What the gently caress then tough guy? Do you even loving care that people lost their lives trying to protect this city? And his loving apology was I apologize for being ill timed. That's not an apology rear end in a top hat. God, gently caress you.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 00:55 |
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Sir Rolo posted:
I wonder how many Boston conservatives were poised at their windows, rifle in hand, having to use every last ounce of willpower to keep from shooting every moving target they saw. Probably none in both cases, actually. Wait, this Nate Bell feller is an ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE? Jesus Christ, I thought he was some radio show host or something. gently caress this guy, for real.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 01:26 |
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This little guy was posted in response to some stupid gun debate. http://mddall.com/sbss/0311.htm Laundry list of fallacies, I tell you.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 03:09 |
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Today I saw these. And I just want to punch whoever made them right in the god damned face.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 03:16 |
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Well the first one is just good old fashioned bigotry. I do enjoy the patriotic gradient over "Fewer Crazy Muslims". The second one, I think it could use some more arrows.
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 03:21 |
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:Today I saw these. Then again I have heard someone make the argument that Benghazi would not have occurred if we just let Gaddafi crush the rebellion in Libya, so
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 03:21 |
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The worst part of the Syria one isn't just that it's racist. It's that they took an image of a bunch of people halfway around the world, offering empathy for complete strangers, and used it to demean those same people. It's honestly one of the most despicable things posted in this thread, I think.
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