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I just love that every promo back then had the word "rear end" in it to make sure the show was as edgy as possible. Like, if you didn't have PG-13 language in every promo it was a failure.
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On the topic of profanity, I went to a Raw taping in 1998 and one of the Harris brothers said "poo poo".
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I just love that every promo back then had the word "rear end" in it to make sure the show was as edgy as possible. Like, if you didn't have PG-13 language in every promo it was a failure. As someone who was bothered by the use of the phrase "kick your butt" I appreciated this, and it is a wonder I was a WCW fan during the period.
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MassRanTer posted:As someone who was bothered by the use of the phrase "kick your butt" I appreciated this, and it is a wonder I was a WCW fan during the period. I remember Flair saying rear end quite a bit during his feud with Arn Anderson back in 95, really fed into that whole blood feud concept.
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Who can forget Tony Schiavone's comment when Hogan turned at Bash 96, "Everyone out of the dressing room to kick his rear end!"
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Apr 20, 2013 19:36
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Cromulent posted:Who can forget Tony Schiavone's comment when Hogan turned at Bash 96, "Everyone out of the dressing room to kick his rear end!" The only way it could have been any less edgy would be if he'd said "Get everyone out of the dressing room right now and kick Hogan's patootie!" <  >
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Apr 20, 2013 19:49
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I always liked that Tony was sort of a dweeb, so long as he had someone there to play off it like Heenan.
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I thought Tony usually went out of his way not to curse, which gave him telling Hogan to go straight to hell even more impact.
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Apr 20, 2013 19:53
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I always wondered if Heenan ever got heat for spoiling it 10 seconds before Hogan turned. WWE edits it out of every replay.
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Apr 20, 2013 19:54
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Jack Krauser posted:I always wondered if Heenan ever got heat for spoiling it 10 seconds before Hogan turned. WWE edits it out of every replay. How could he spoil it when he had no idea? The only person who knew was Tony. He was just being Bobby - an rear end in a top hat towards Hogan.
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Apr 20, 2013 19:58
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^  Jack Krauser posted:I always wondered if Heenan ever got heat for spoiling it 10 seconds before Hogan turned. WWE edits it out of every replay. Hall and Nash were pretty miffed with him for that. Didn't bother me much, though, considering Heenan and Hogan's storyline history.
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Apr 20, 2013 19:59
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Jack Krauser posted:I always wondered if Heenan ever got heat for spoiling it 10 seconds before Hogan turned. WWE edits it out of every replay. What did Heenan do?
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iLikeMidgets posted:What did Heenan do? While the rest of the commentators cheered that Hogan was there to save the day, Heenan kept yelling "Who's side is he on? WHO'S SIDE IS HE ON?!?!" As Schiavone kept screaming at him to shut up. Personally I alsways saw it as Bobby just playing up his dislike of Hogan as opposed to spoiling the turn.
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bobkatt013 posted:How could he spoil it when he had no idea? The only person who knew was Tony. He was just being Bobby - an rear end in a top hat towards Hogan. Yeah I guess. You've got Dusty responding going "What are youuu talkin bout?" that supports that.
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Apr 20, 2013 20:18
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I'm pretty sure that call gets brought up on the Bobby Heenan DVD. Heenan even says he hosed up.
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Q_res posted:I'm pretty sure that call gets brought up on the Bobby Heenan DVD. Heenan even says he hosed up. It makes no sense to blame bobby if he didn't know . Maybe in a huge main event angle you should let your commentators know what the gently caress is going on so they can effectively tell the story.
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One of my favorite bits of lovely WCW commentary was (I think) Hak and Bigelow absolutely loving waffling each other with trash cans, and Tony being all "lol they sound great but don't really hurt that bad"
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Just re-read Death of WCW and all the announcing screw ups are hilarious. Tank pulling a knife on Big Al and threatening to kill him was covered by Shiavone yelling about Tank going to cut his beard. Big Al didn't have a beard. Someone holding a private conversation between "You, Me and 5,000 people" (meaning the viewing audience essentially saying that only 5,000 people were watching the show) and that was covered by Shiavone saying he meant 5k per household. Title changed occurring and the announcers calling them gently caress ups because they weren't informed of the title change ahead of time. Heenan calling Flair a drunk because he showed up after getting his rear end beat by the nWo in a field in bad shape. They didn't show the announcers the video of the beating. My favorite is the announcers wigging at the whole "scissors" comment even though ten people watching the show had a clue what it was about. As well as Heenan laughing hysterically throughout a 5 minute Hacksaw match because Tony called Hacksaw "intelligent." But that was brilliant and not a gently caress up.
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Why did Bobby hate Tony so much? I mean Tony's a poo poo but man
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Tony was a shithead, is the short answer. His contempt for Heenan wanting to honor Gorilla Monsoon is a favorite example, but that was later in his tenure and I am positive there are more examples that our resident historians can cite.
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Dickeye posted:Why did Bobby hate Tony so much? I mean Tony's a poo poo but man Lets just say when Gorilla died Bobby had to fight to be able to mention it on tv. Then we they did allow it Tony acted like Gorilla was his best friend. Tony was also super paranoid and saw Bobby as a threat to his spot.
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Tony Schiavone was a company guy that wouldn't give a single inch to WWF or ECW.
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After being passed over for promotion Tony became one of the most petty assholes in the business who did everything to protect his spotbobkatt013 posted:Lets just say when Gorilla died Bobby had to fight to be able to mention it on tv. Then we they did allow it Tony acted like Gorilla was his best friend. Tony was also super paranoid and saw Bobby as a threat to his spot. Tony pretending he loved Monsoon doesn't really bother me because what's he supposed to do, tell everybody he never liked him? I'll take that over Larry Z refusing to break kayfabe and talking trash about Louie Spicoli after he died. It should have never been an issue in the first place though, I agree. oatgan fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Apr 22, 2013 |
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Tony was blatantly antagonistic on air with Heenan all the drat time, and not in a face bickering with a heel kinda way.
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oatgan posted:After being passed over for promotion Tony became one of the most petty assholes in the business who did everything to protect his spot It was more how you found out the fight backstage to get it on air, plus he spoke more then Bobby.
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Heenan also said that Schiavone would find out a piece of info (about anything, but usually angles) and either jealously guard it to make himself look more important when he revealed it; or else he'd lord it over Heenan and whoever else they were working with, in a "I know something that you don't know  " manner.
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An incomplete list of people who Tony hated: Anyone who made it in the WWF, as he did not. Jessie Ventura for making him look like a fool on his big opportunity calling Summerslam. Gorrilla Monsoon for being his boss at WWF and conspiring to fire him. Jim Ross for being his superior at WCW and always getting the plum jobs. Bobby Heenan for being friends with Gorrilla and being better at commentary than him. Eric Bischoff for out politicing him and becoming his boss. JJ Dillon for ignoring his phone calls when he tried to jump ship to the WWF in the early 90's. Mike Tenay for doing homework and generally being a nerd. Eddie Guerrero for standing up to Eric backstage when he didn't. Paul Heyman for being JR's prefered co-host on WCW Sat Night. Jim Cornette for being JR's best friend. JR again for becoming beloved by the fans. Vince McMahon for firing him. Oh and Hulk Hogan for turning his back on WCW (and more importantly attempting to get him replaced as commentator).
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Skinty McEdger posted:An incomplete list of people who Tony hated: Can you make a list of people who Tony liked?
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bobkatt013 posted:Can you make a list of people who Tony liked?
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bobkatt013 posted:Can you make a list of people who Tony liked? Mick Foley. Literally the only guy to ever say "I'm friends with Tony Schiavone." Oh and his family I guess. Though when he finished up with WCW he did go on a rant about how much he hated not being on the road because it meant he had to spend more time with his wife.
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Skinty McEdger posted:An incomplete list of people who Tony hated: What happened here?
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oatgan posted:I'll take that over Larry Z refusing to break kayfabe and talking trash about Louie Spicoli after he died. Seriously, that was such a moment of what the gently caress. They're all giving condolences to Spicoli's family or whatever, then Larry mutters something like "I could say something nice, but in the interest of being honest, I'll pass". The hell.
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bobkatt013 posted:Can you make a list of people who Tony liked? I would think Jim and David Crockett (from the JCP-era NWA days) would probably be on that list, but who really knows for sure.
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triplexpac posted:What happened here? I can't remember the match exactly, but two guys are on the outside of the ring and the babyface hits the heel with a chair. Tony starts saying that its perfectly legal because it's outside of the ring and Jessie incredulously starts ripping into him for how stupid that is. "So if I got a gun and shot him outside of the ring that would be perfectly legal?" Jessie then spends the rest of the night making comments everytime the action spills out of the ring as Tony gets more and more annoyed and flustered. As a result Tony gets less plum roles in the company for the next 6 months until he gets one more shot at play by play at the rumble. He stinks it up again and gets released.
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Since Madden was mentioned, now that I think back, Tony seemed to really get along with him on commentary. Like, he would fake guffaw at almost everything Madden would say, all of it dumb and unfunny, while always trying to browbeat Heenan when they did commentary together. I can definitely see the Madden and Schiavone yucking it up backstage and thinking they're the smartest guys in the room. One other thing to note: Mongo tweeted (yes he has a Twitter) that he hated working with Tony on commentary.
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What has Scott Hudson been up to over the last decade?Strenuous Manflurry posted:Since Madden was mentioned, now that I think back, Tony seemed to really get along with him on commentary. Like, he would fake guffaw at almost everything Madden would say, all of it dumb and unfunny, while always trying to browbeat Heenan when they did commentary together. I can definitely see the Madden and Schiavone yucking it up backstage and thinking they're the smartest guys in the room. Truly they were the Heenan/Monsoon of their era
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oatgan posted:What has Scott Hudson been up to over the last decade? He commentated for Ring of Glory, had a brief stint in TNA and now works in the criminal justice system.
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Not so much "now" as he has been working as a criminal investigator for the federal government since 1994. He has a couple of criminal justice degrees even! I hope he's doing well, I always liked Scott Hudson in WCW. Him and Jeremy Borash were fun.
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