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Phobophilia posted:Wait, so they drove it for how many metres without the rifle falling off? Only a few blocks. Like, a third of a mile. 
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jalopybrown posted:I still don't understand the tinfoil 'where is the blood?' argument when the photo of the injured shows a big patch of blood in the direction his legs would have faced, do they think he should have been flying around on blood jets like Tokyo Gore Police? No wreckage at the pentagon, no blood at the finish line.
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If only the billions of military dollars could go into making a lawgiver pistol to avoid such future problems.
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I'm guessing that rifle wasn't precariously hanging off the edge of the trunk the entire time.
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Phobophilia posted:Wait, so they drove it for how many metres without the rifle falling off? I've made it surprisingly far with a cup of coffee on my car roof.
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Huh; the area that the shootout and final arrest happened is less than half a mile north of me, which was just a street or two across from the place where I previously lived with a crazy cat lady (briefly, as she was crazy). But it just hit me that if Petey lives in that area, then we live really close. I should drive over and be all "hey I'm from the internet" and the awkwardness should theoretically keep his mind off of other bad things. e: I would not actually do this One Legged Cat fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Apr 24, 2013 |
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Apr 24, 2013 02:42
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A sad postscript to all of the online indictments of random, innocent people: 
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Crackpipe posted:A sad postscript to all of the online indictments of random, innocent people: I hope his recent publicity didn't set him over the edge.
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Dusseldorf posted:I hope his recent publicity didn't set him over the edge.
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Crackpipe posted:A sad postscript to all of the online indictments of random, innocent people:  I was hoping things would turn out okay for him. I guess they didn't.
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Wario In Real Life posted:If it is indeed him then he's likely been dead for over a month. Well if his time of death was after the bombings it's going to set the conspiracy theorists (more) off the hook. Also if he's been dead a month then the coroner has some serious identifying to do.
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So the guy who they kidnapped said that he was picked up by one brother and then they went and picked up the other. Who was picked up first? Also pretty odd they had a bb gun on them. If they had time to prepare you would think they would have better weapons.
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Dusseldorf posted:Well if his time of death was after the bombings it's going to set the conspiracy theorists (more) off the hook. Also if he's been dead a month then the coroner has some serious identifying to do. If it's after the bombings it should set anyone with empathy and a soul off the hook. I can't imagine how horrible it must've been for his parents. Their son goes missing, they look for him for a month, then a bunch of people tell them he is responsible for a horrible terrorist attack. They might even have been watching and listening to the same stuff we were, imagining their son in a firefight and on the run after killing a cop. And now he's dead. 
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^ I think they knew by that point that it wasn't their son. The Tsarnaev brothers' pictures had been released. Still pretty awful for the family.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/24/us/boston-marathon-bombing-developments.html?pagewanted=2 posted:“[Tamerlan] was looking for connections between the wars in the Middle East and oppression of Muslim population around the globe,” Mr. Khozhugov said in an e-mail. “It was very hard to argue with him on themes somehow connected to religion. On the other hand he did not hate Christians. He respected their faith. Never said anything bad about other religions. But he was angry that the world pictures Islam as a violent religion.” Well, problem solved, dude.
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Is it some sort of reverse psychology???? Maybe all oppressed races and religions should just feed into negative stereotypes, that'll shed them of that image once and for all.
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Joementum posted:Well, problem solved, dude. Dzhokhar expressed a similar sentiment: 
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Did anybody post the article about the wife yet? Yeesh. http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/feds-ask-interview-wife-suspected-bomber quote:NORTH KINGSTOWN, R.I. (AP) — Katherine Russell was a talented artist, a good student who grew up Christian, the daughter of a suburban doctor.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:My understanding was that it required somewhat more sophisticated testing than what you'd get in a standard autopsy, but I do hope researchers will be able to get his brain. EDIT: Actually, after reviewing the timeline of events, it is certainly possible that the medical examiners were aware of his history and may have saved Tsarnaev's brain for more detailed neuropathologic examination, especially if they were contacted early by the two researchers mentioned in the article. Axolotl fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Apr 24, 2013 |
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Crackpipe posted:A sad postscript to all of the online indictments of random, innocent people: Poor Sunny. At least his family gets closure now.
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Crackpipe posted:A sad postscript to all of the online indictments of random, innocent people: Noooo
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Harminoff posted:Also pretty odd they had a bb gun on them. If they had time to prepare you would think they would have better weapons. Yeah their preparation was . . . scattershot I guess. But there are plenty of people who know absolutely nothing about guns and might be willing to believe a BB gun was something dangerous if it was pointed at them. Why not throw it into the mix as a means of intimidating people, if you're scrambling around at the last minute?
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Crackpipe posted:A sad postscript to all of the online indictments of random, innocent people: Poor guy. I feel so terrible for the family. This is the shittiest month.
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Yeah it's really weird that almost all their family and friends think that dzhokhar was set up. Only one who doesn't is the uncle. Some friends didn't even know he had an older brother. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jX8vkRNy_w Harminoff fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Apr 24, 2013 |
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Harminoff posted:Yeah it's really weird that almost all their family and friends think that dzhokhar was set up. Only one who doesn't is the uncle. Some friends didn't even know he had an older brother. I don't think it's that weird, as far as they knew he seemed like a normal and well adjusted guy and that's obviously hard to reconcile with the news. It's pretty understandable that some of them would be in denial.
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Crackpipe posted:A sad postscript to all of the online indictments of random, innocent people: Ugh. Not surprising, depressed college students who disappear with the note "goodbye cruel world" are pretty obviously at risk of imminent suicide, but that's terrible to hear for his family.
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beatlegs posted:I'm seeing a lot of Republican politicians saying they "find it hard to believe" the two brothers weren't acting in coordination with foreign groups, despite all the evidence so far indicating they acted alone. Is the mainstream GOP preparing to go down the conspiracy road? Preparing? They've practically drawn-up the map.
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Wario In Real Life posted:If it is indeed him then he's likely been dead for over a month. Yeah, it's kinda lovely we only find out about it now. India Point is a park in Providence, so he didn't travel very far. Cuttlefish Party posted:Yeah their preparation was . . . scattershot I guess. But there are plenty of people who know absolutely nothing about guns and might be willing to believe a BB gun was something dangerous if it was pointed at them. Why not throw it into the mix as a means of intimidating people, if you're scrambling around at the last minute? It makes me wonder if the BB gun in question is a BB pistol, an air rifle like your Red Ryder BB guns, or an airsoft gun that can look like a real military firearm. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Apr 24, 2013 |
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I'm pretty convinced that Tamerlan murdered his best friend and the other dudes, too, given the circumstances of the murders.
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beatlegs posted:I'm seeing a lot of Republican politicians saying they "find it hard to believe" the two brothers weren't acting in coordination with foreign groups, despite all the evidence so far indicating they acted alone. Is the mainstream GOP preparing to go down the conspiracy road? Eh, I wouldn't say "conspiracy" in terms of tin foilery. But they definitely want to latch it on to a more global cause because it absolutely furthers their agenda. Just two guys acting alone can't go much further than "well...that loving sucks."
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DUNCAN DONUTS posted:I'm pretty convinced that Tamerlan murdered his best friend and the other dudes, too, given the circumstances of the murders. I'm not buying that 3 young men (at least one of whom was fit and had martial arts training) are just going to stand around and let you slit their throats so if Tamerlan was responsible for the murders, it seems unlikely he acted alone.
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beatlegs posted:I'm seeing a lot of Republican politicians saying they "find it hard to believe" the two brothers weren't acting in coordination with foreign groups, despite all the evidence so far indicating they acted alone. Is the mainstream GOP preparing to go down the conspiracy road? Two dudes conspiring to blow poo poo up is already an actual conspiracy. I think they just hate the idea that two shitheads are able to pull things like this off without a major group to blame and declare war (or double war?) against. Their constituents like tough words and promises of revenge.
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Quick, legitimate question: if someone commits a heinous act, and points to a media source for the reasoning behind that incident, can the media figure be charged? Let's say the bombers came out and said the reason why they set off those bombs was because Glenn Beck and Alex Jones preached that the United States government was out to get everyone, or something. Could Beck and Jones face charges?
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AsInHowe posted:Quick, legitimate question: if someone commits a heinous act, and points to a media source for the reasoning behind that incident, can the media figure be charged? Not unless they made specific targeted threats.
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AsInHowe posted:Quick, legitimate question: if someone commits a heinous act, and points to a media source for the reasoning behind that incident, can the media figure be charged? IANAL, but no. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio Wikipedia posted:The Court held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is directed to inciting, and is likely to incite, imminent lawless action. Basically "I sure hate the US Government" is fine, but "I sure hate the US Government and it is your duty to go out and blow poo poo up right now" is not.
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Okay. So, since they have to have specific targeted threats, could right-wing media have faced any kind of charge for the death of someone like George Tiller?
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