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burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Baronjutter posted:

What's the difference between Liberate country and Free People?
(once again pdox, tool tips, come on guys)

One frees provinces in a nation with the core you select (so if you select Poland, all provinces with a Polish core), and one is liberate a province with a foreign core (so if you pick Poland, and then Wielkopolska). I have no idea which is which but the one with more infamy is probably the one that frees all their provinces.

(as a side note, this is part of why I wish you could move capitals in V2: sometimes I see Poland pop up sans Warsawa, so they put the capital in another province like Lvov (rather than Krakow, which they do have :psyduck:), later regain Warsawa, and then not move the capital. It was really annoying)

Kainser posted:

So uh, Italy was just formed by the Papal States :stare::hf::catholic:

I see that happen all the time :colbert:.... to be fair though I am often the one playing the Papal States. Sadly, even if you don't get the Crown from the Gutter, there is nothing special from becoming pope of all of Italy. The game will even still refer to you as king :(.

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Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go

Kainser posted:

So uh, Italy was just formed by the Papal States :stare::hf::catholic:

The only proper Italy :colbert:

I'm still disappointed your tag didn't change to "Kingdom of God" in EU3 when you did that decision.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Farecoal posted:

The only proper Italy :colbert:

I'm still disappointed your tag didn't change to "Kingdom of God" in EU3 when you did that decision.

It does change to Kingdom of God in EU3.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go

uPen posted:

It does change to Kingdom of God in EU3.

What? No, I distinctly remember the taste of bitter disappointment, you just stayed as the Papal States.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Yes, you only received an event proclaiming said kingdom.

And for no sensible reason the papal election system was disabled.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Riso posted:

Yes, you only received an event proclaiming said kingdom.

And for no sensible reason the papal election system was disabled.

I'm fairly sure that the logic given was essentially that as the Pope's temporal power was now on par with the other major powers of Europe, his role in both internal and external politics would move closer to that of a regular monarch. Not perfect but actually fairly reasonable.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


I take back what I said about great war capitulations. Is it bugged at all?

Long story short I'm in a Great War and winning with like 38% warscore. Then the UK (in charge of the war) somehow makes a separate peace with a small country on the other side... and concedes capitulation to them. Even though 1.) we were winning the loving war and 2.) separate peace isn't possible in a Great War. So now I took a huge prestige hit, can't produce any units, and am paying hefty reparation for a war that I won.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



So uh, winning great wars against the UK, Netherlands and Austria is ... interesting :)



Indemnities last for 3 years right?

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

RabidWeasel posted:

I'm fairly sure that the logic given was essentially that as the Pope's temporal power was now on par with the other major powers of Europe, his role in both internal and external politics would move closer to that of a regular monarch. Not perfect but actually fairly reasonable.

I just wish it also changed the government type from a Papacy to a Theocracy, along with changing the tag. There should probably also be a way for a third party country to reinstate the Papacy with all the trappings, if they can manage to win enough wars to force the release of PAP.

I've modded some of that into my version of EU3, but I also have the Kingdom of God decision not set papacy_active = no, because trying to reset papacy_active = yes always crashes the game for me.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Stupid question, can you rename things in V2? I loved to rename things in paradox games. I'll even spend silly amounts of time searching for culturally, geographically, and historically valid things to name things based on the nation/culture I'm playing.

Bastastic
Jun 20, 2010

^^^
Only armies and fleets.

Wolfgang Pauli
Mar 26, 2008

One Three Seven

DrSunshine posted:

Discovering Transwarp Gates will allow you to port in your brick of troops from the Pope Dimension to anywhere in the world.
Careful if you haven't researched the proper Coil inventions, though, or else you'll shake your nation apart.

Baronjutter posted:

There should never be a case where a unit isn't reinforcing because his attached pop isn't high enough, yet there's hundreds of thousands of free soldier pops.
This is my only complaint. It was only ever segregated because regiments used to be cultural and you couldn't build non-accepted versions of certain units. This isn't the case anymore, so give us our mens.

I do like that manpower is tied to POP size, though, because wars are incredibly lethal in my homebrew mod. I set POPs-to-casualties at 1:1.

Drone posted:

I take back what I said about great war capitulations. Is it bugged at all?

Long story short I'm in a Great War and winning with like 38% warscore. Then the UK (in charge of the war) somehow makes a separate peace with a small country on the other side... and concedes capitulation to them. Even though 1.) we were winning the loving war and 2.) separate peace isn't possible in a Great War. So now I took a huge prestige hit, can't produce any units, and am paying hefty reparation for a war that I won.
Wargoals are broken. Don't get involved in a Great War, or really any war where you have separate interests, unless you're the leader of your alliance.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go

Baronjutter posted:

Stupid question, can you rename things in V2? I loved to rename things in paradox games. I'll even spend silly amounts of time searching for culturally, geographically, and historically valid things to name things based on the nation/culture I'm playing.

Bastastic posted:

^^^
Only armies and fleets.

You can create decisions and/or events that rename provinces. Belgium, for example, if it takes over the Congo area it can rename the provinces there to 'Leopoldville", "Stanleyville", etc.

Wolfgang Pauli
Mar 26, 2008

One Three Seven
If you can get through a game of Vicky 2 without writing some decision or event while going "No, no, that's wrong. You're wrong, game", then you're a better man than I.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Wolfgang Pauli posted:

If you can get through a game of Vicky 2 without writing some decision or event while going "No, no, that's wrong. You're wrong, game", then you're a better man than I.

If you can get through any paradox game without getting angry and spending weeks searching for mods to 'fix' the game to how you want it then digging into that mod and modding the mod to fix the mod and then finding a mod to mod your modded mod then you're playing paradox games wrong.

Speaking of which I got the square flags mod, such an improvement! Any HoD mods out yet? I'd love to dig into some of those economy/population overhaul mods.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go
I have a huge problem in my current game (AHD with NMM Full). Its about 1917, and I'm stuck economically; if I don't let my factories and PoPs buy from my stockpile for cheap, my factories require huge subsidies and make me have to borrow money, or if I don't give them subsidies they fire workers and close down, causing unemployment and militancy. If I do open up my stockpile, my factories are fine and my pops are employed, but the world economy is flooded with cheap goods and crashes. What do I do?

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Take whatever command you used to add to your stockpile, and remove whatever you gave yourself? The console commands usually accept negative inputs.

Wolfgang Pauli
Mar 26, 2008

One Three Seven

Farecoal posted:

I have a huge problem in my current game (AHD with NMM Full). Its about 1917, and I'm stuck economically; if I don't let my factories and PoPs buy from my stockpile for cheap, my factories require huge subsidies and make me have to borrow money, or if I don't give them subsidies they fire workers and close down, causing unemployment and militancy. If I do open up my stockpile, my factories are fine and my pops are employed, but the world economy is flooded with cheap goods and crashes. What do I do?
Build up your military, let the world burn, wait for a market correction. Better to destroy the world market and ruin everyone than destroy yourself to save the world market.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Baronjutter posted:

Speaking of which I got the square flags mod, such an improvement! Any HoD mods out yet? I'd love to dig into some of those economy/population overhaul mods.

It really is, isn't it? I'm not a fan of the elaborate, overwrought flag frames. I also wipe out the map overlay file that adds paper folds/map lines to the map. Ugh.

In fact, I stole the flag frame from this 650 b.c. mod to use in my standard EUIII.

So much better:

Raneman
Dec 24, 2010

by T. Finninho
As a secondary nation how do you escalate to a great power without war? I'm playing Belgium and it seems like I start to lose hold around 1840 or so because I can't keep up in military or prestige. I know prestige can be improved with cultural poo poo but how do I keep my ratings for the 3 rising enough to hit rank 8?

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go

Fintilgin posted:

It really is, isn't it? I'm not a fan of the elaborate, overwrought flag frames. I also wipe out the map overlay file that adds paper folds/map lines to the map. Ugh.

In fact, I stole the flag frame from this 650 b.c. mod to use in my standard EUIII.

A. Which file is that in Vic2?

B. Which file is that in said mod?

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Farecoal posted:

A. Which file is that in Vic2?

B. Which file is that in said mod?

A.) Victoria 2/map/terrain/map_overlay_tile.dds You can't just delete it, you have to open it up in Gimp or Photoshop or something and erase everything so it's blank.

OR download this: Clear Map Overlay.


B.) I believe if you download that 650 B.C. mod and open up gfx\interface\ you'll see six .dds files that start with 'shield' or 'large shield'. Back up those same files in your EUIII\gfx\interface\ and drop the mods in. I think that'll do it.


EDIT: I also like to edit the fog of war in the latest games to a flat gray color instead of misty 'swirls' so that it's just darker and not animated/moving.

Fintilgin fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Apr 25, 2013

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.
New question: is there no pop editor or just general scenario editor for Victoria 2? The only one I found was defunct.

Also, what controls the assimilation rate of pops? Is there an event command I could use to change a pop to another culture instantly?

Raneman
Dec 24, 2010

by T. Finninho
What causes cotton to become unavailable on the world market? It seems like I can barely get any most days.

wukkar
Nov 27, 2009

Raneman posted:

As a secondary nation how do you escalate to a great power without war? I'm playing Belgium and it seems like I start to lose hold around 1840 or so because I can't keep up in military or prestige. I know prestige can be improved with cultural poo poo but how do I keep my ratings for the 3 rising enough to hit rank 8?
Kill brown people.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go

Fintilgin posted:

A.) Victoria 2/map/terrain/map_overlay_tile.dds You can't just delete it, you have to open it up in Gimp or Photoshop or something and erase everything so it's blank.

OR download this: Clear Map Overlay.


B.) I believe if you download that 650 B.C. mod and open up gfx\interface\ you'll see six .dds files that start with 'shield' or 'large shield'. Back up those same files in your EUIII\gfx\interface\ and drop the mods in. I think that'll do it.


EDIT: I also like to edit the fog of war in the latest games to a flat gray color instead of misty 'swirls' so that it's just darker and not animated/moving.

Thanks a buncharooni

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

Raneman posted:

As a secondary nation how do you escalate to a great power without war? I'm playing Belgium and it seems like I start to lose hold around 1840 or so because I can't keep up in military or prestige. I know prestige can be improved with cultural poo poo but how do I keep my ratings for the 3 rising enough to hit rank 8?

Economic might. Try to become a "Singapore". Switch to a state-capitalist or socialist ruling party as soon as you can, choose one industry that would be profited by the RGOs in your few states, and massively promote it, and any accompanying supply chains that can develop from it. If you have iron and coal, steel is a great industry because you can also build machine parts factories, electric gear factories and other stuff. Once you've maxed out your number of factories, build vertically, expanding as much as you can and abusing your NFs to increase immigration and craftsmen growth.

EDIT: Remember, though, that you'll need to do a lot of catching up o keep GP status on economic might alone. You'll need to have level 30 or 40 factories in the late game, so your choices on what to build will in many ways set your destiny. Make your choices wisely-- destroying a level 20 factory when you've only got 3 states will hit you much more.

DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Apr 25, 2013

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Farecoal posted:

What? No, I distinctly remember the taste of bitter disappointment, you just stayed as the Papal States.

There is at least one mod which changes you into the Kingdom of God, but yes, in vanilla you just remain the Papal States. I just did it a couple months ago and shared your disappointment.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


In the Taiping rebellion event chain, does the Kingdom of Heaven get the same westernization progress as the regular kingdom? Or a boost to RP after winning? I want to give them a spin but dont want to have to redo westernization afterwards.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Fintilgin posted:

EDIT: I also like to edit the fog of war in the latest games to a flat gray color instead of misty 'swirls' so that it's just darker and not animated/moving.

HOW do you do this? This would be my number one graphical complaint with Paradox games these days and I thought it was unchangeable.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
How do you revert a country to Absolute Monarchy/get Reactionaries? I tried passing reforms that had no support and taking militancy-increasing options in events, but I think that just pissed off the Jacobins as well.

NEED TOILET PAPER
Mar 22, 2013

by XyloJW
I've never really gotten into CK2 but right now I'm trying to give it another chance and I want to know: are there any negative repercussions for sending multiple kids to be educated by one person? Seems my current ruler's been pretty busy in the bedroom and now has a ton of rugrats that need some book-learnin' but both his wife and his heir's wife are pretty much amazing at everything so I've been sending the kids to be educated by them.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

How do you revert a country to Absolute Monarchy/get Reactionaries? I tried passing reforms that had no support and taking militancy-increasing options in events, but I think that just pissed off the Jacobins as well.

You'll pretty much only get reactionaries if you have low literacy and low consciousness. Mostly because the only POPs that have a strong tendency towards reactionism are aristocrats and artisans.

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

NEED TOILET PAPER posted:

I've never really gotten into CK2 but right now I'm trying to give it another chance and I want to know: are there any negative repercussions for sending multiple kids to be educated by one person? Seems my current ruler's been pretty busy in the bedroom and now has a ton of rugrats that need some book-learnin' but both his wife and his heir's wife are pretty much amazing at everything so I've been sending the kids to be educated by them.

Nothing specific but you get an opinion boost from each person to whom you entrust a child, and it doesn't stack with multiple wards sent to the same person. It's not huge (+10 I think) but it's a way to get some use out of kids who'll never succeed.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Fister Roboto posted:

You'll pretty much only get reactionaries if you have low literacy and low consciousness. Mostly because the only POPs that have a strong tendency towards reactionism are aristocrats and artisans.

The only way to lower literacy and con is to unfund education, don't pass reforms giving people news papers or public schools, and (ironically) murder priests wherever possible.

Literacy naturally raises con so lowering literacy should long run help you lose con.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Reveilled posted:

HOW do you do this? This would be my number one graphical complaint with Paradox games these days and I thought it was unchangeable.

For example, in CKII the file is in map/terrain/fogofwar.dds, EUIII is map/terrain/fog.dds. Open it up in Gimp or whatever and it'll look like noise. Pick a nice light/medium grey and paint over all the noise. Crazy fog gone! I think it looks cleaner and smoother.

CKII does continue to 'pulse' a bit, growing gradually and slowly darker and lighter, but the 'clouds' are gone. If I remember correctly, EUIII does not pulse the same way.

Major Isoor
Mar 23, 2011
Ok, I've just got another quick CK2 question (boy this thread moves quickly; my old question was pages ago now): How come the small arsenal I built in my republic a little while ago (the republic of Cyprus. I should be fine unless I invest all my gold into internet monopoly money, eh?) disappear when a new Grand Mayor took charge? I'm sure that didn't happen in my old Gotland game, so I'm not certain about what's up. I don't suppose anyone here knows?

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Cantorsdust posted:

New question: is there no pop editor or just general scenario editor for Victoria 2? The only one I found was defunct.

Also, what controls the assimilation rate of pops? Is there an event command I could use to change a pop to another culture instantly?

This editor works for Rome, EU3, HoI3 and V2, it really should be added to the OP, since this question comes up a lot.

The POPAdjuster in this thread is an amazing tool for quickly editing POPs for a mod. Make sure you backup your files until you're familiar with it.

Guildencrantz
May 1, 2012

IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES
Man, Great Wars would be fun if the military AI wasn't completely retarded. I just had a Great War happen in 1898 between an Anglo-German alliance on one side and a Russian-French alliance on the other, and it seems the AI can't run a war on multiple fronts, instead it just chooses one and throws everything at it. I (as a released Australia) joined the British and what I saw in Europe was a pretty sad spectacle.

Germany had an extremely short front with Russia thanks to the existence of an independent Poland, they only bordered in East Prussia, but rather than park some troops in those two provinces and pull a Thermopylae, they threw every man and cannon they had at France, leaving the east completely undefended, and promptly got occupied by the Russian hordes. The UK's enormous and modern armies destroyed the French in Africa, then hosed around occupying provinces there, while all their mobilized troops and their entire fleet sat on their asses in Ireland. They could effortlessly completely blockade their enemies and probably do a good job of invading France, but no. Meanwhile my Aussie troops strolled through Siberia from Vladivostok entirely unopposed because Russia keeps her entire army in the west.

It's like an Ouroboros of incompetence.

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Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

So which country are you going to play in tonight's EUIV stream? I think you should pick Austria and gently caress with Poland and the Balkans for maximum fun!

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