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Norns posted:I love how this has turned into a fashion thread. Not kidding. Speaking of fashion, some protags have terrible fashion sense (blue does not go with yellow). 
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Best megaten fashion: http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Hero
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Light Gun Man posted:Best megaten fashion: http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Hero I'm sure you meant SMT1 guy. You could put a lot of stuff in those pockets, you know!
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Light Gun Man posted:Best megaten fashion: http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Hero He desperately needs him a fedora.
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Quick question about Soul Hackers that I didn't see in the OP. What should I be investing in in level-ups? I don't want to gimp myself, but I'm thinking of going physical because late-game pierce is usally never a bad idea in these games.
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Hackan Slash posted:Quick question about Soul Hackers that I didn't see in the OP. What should I be investing in in level-ups? I don't want to gimp myself, but I'm thinking of going physical because late-game pierce is usally never a bad idea in these games. The MC can't use magic and Nemissa learns spells, so pump STR for the MC and MAG for Nemissa.
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Int also may or may not be useful for demon negotiations. Has anyone confirmed whether or not it has a profound effect on how well negotiations go? Ag is always a good stat to pump points into as well.
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If not, I'm pretty sure INT increases your magic defense, so it's a good idea to keep up with that anyway.
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ChaosArgate posted:Int also may or may not be useful for demon negotiations. Has anyone confirmed whether or not it has a profound effect on how well negotiations go? I had int at 5 for most of the game all the way up to level 80 and I never noticed any significant problems recruiting things. If anything has an effect on negotiations it's probably your level, but even then I wouldn't be surprised if the system is entirely independent of stats. For the MC I went Str > Vit > Ag and basically ignored everything else for most of the game. Near the very end I pumped 10 points into mag because his best armor requires 10 mag minimum to equip (although you may be better served just leaving mag at 1 and using the casino gear, I dunno).
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I have a plot question about the Infidelity Sap thing in SMT2: So when Puck uses the love powder on Hiroko, it's considered bad, but when Anoon does it to Daleth it's A-OK? Isn't it basically brainwashing? 
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Apr 27, 2013 04:18
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The same thing happens in Strange Journey, actually. Jimenez bitches out Zelenin for using mind-control singing to pacify Jack's Squad. He sees no problem with demons possessing the ship's crew in Chaos route, if I recall.
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Apr 27, 2013 04:27
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Tallgeese posted:The same thing happens in Strange Journey, actually. Yep. I was pretty underwhelmed with that given that I did Law first.
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Meiteron posted:For the MC I went Str > Vit > Ag and basically ignored everything else for most of the game. Near the very end I pumped 10 points into mag because his best armor requires 10 mag minimum to equip (although you may be better served just leaving mag at 1 and using the casino gear, I dunno). You actually would be. The Hare of Inaba's mystic change item makes a better helmet (as does the Casino helm) and the World Armor/Judge Fist both offer considerably higher evasion while only sacrificing a few points of defense. When you wear all of the Masakado armor at the same time it does grant him +6 to all stats though, but it makes you weak to a lot of elements that will straight up get you killed in the postgame boss fights.
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Reporting back from The Haunted Mansion in Soul Hackers to say: don't ever, EVER take Kid A if you have a heart; (if you aren't Super Quadruple Omega Mecha Hitler.)
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Snix posted:Reporting back from The Haunted Mansion in Soul Hackers to say: don't ever, EVER take Kid A if you have a heart; (if you aren't Super Quadruple Omega Mecha Hitler.) I told you.
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Booky posted:I have a plot question about the Infidelity Sap thing in SMT2: Actually on this point, there's some additional info that's not covered in the game but is dealt with in the supplemental SMT2 Steven's Report guide/databook.. I guess this whether or not it can be considered canon is up for debate since that's where it comes from though... The love powder's effect is only temporary. After a while it wears off. There's a (kind of dumb) short story in Steven's Report about what happens much later--the powder's effect has worn off but Daleth is still lovey-dovey with Anoon. Like he felt that way about her the whole time and the powder just exacerbated the effect or something. 01011001 posted:Yep. I was pretty underwhelmed with that given that I did Law first. Wait, they made it straight-up demon possession in the English version? In the Japanese version it was more like some sort of thing that allowed latent primal instincts to come to the surface or something. They were pretty clear on the point that the change was coming by unleashing tendencies that were already there rather than put there by an external entity. Kind of ruins the whole Law-Group/Chaos-Individual thing entirely. Genpei Turtle fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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Strange Quark posted:I told you.  Demon: "I like playing video games. Any good games you're playing right now?" > Soul Hackers The Adventure Of Demon: "Oh yeah, I'm playing through that one myself. I'm at this part where I talk to this Human named 'Keiji'. Wait, what's your name again? Th-then what world am I living in right now!? I-I don't know what's going on anymore! D-do you know anything about this!? This is actually pretty exciting stuff! I'm sure it isn't coincidence that brought us together. I'm Beast Kaso. Let me help you out." GOTY.
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Genpei Turtle posted:Actually on this point, there's some additional info that's not covered in the game but is dealt with in the supplemental SMT2 Steven's Report guide/databook.. I guess this whether or not it can be considered canon is up for debate since that's where it comes from though... Ohh, that makes a lot more sense.  It's better then Daleth getting brainwashed into loving her, that's for sure. Why is the short story dumb? Is it just kinda silly?
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Genpei Turtle posted:Wait, they made it straight-up demon possession in the English version? In the Japanese version it was more like some sort of thing that allowed latent primal instincts to come to the surface or something. They were pretty clear on the point that the change was coming by unleashing tendencies that were already there rather than put there by an external entity. Kind of ruins the whole Law-Group/Chaos-Individual thing entirely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_JuvGMa7bM No, it's pretty much what you said, but my take on it was that the general effect is "make them totally cool with demons where they were not before" which is...not really that different from law's straight-up mind control, which he whined about.
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Maybe I'm missing something in Soul Hackers, but do your demons really not gain levels OR pass on skills from fusion? I'm confused on how I should go about with juggling demons in my party since every other SMT it's basically just recruit demon, level them up until they learn all their skills, then pass them on to something better. It's not like the game's especially hard, but my OCD's killing me here since I have no idea how to proceed with my party formation. 
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hamburgers in pockets posted:Maybe I'm missing something in Soul Hackers, but do your demons really not gain levels OR pass on skills from fusion? I'm confused on how I should go about with juggling demons in my party since every other SMT it's basically just recruit demon, level them up until they learn all their skills, then pass them on to something better. It's not like the game's especially hard, but my OCD's killing me here since I have no idea how to proceed with my party formation. Demons do not level up, but they can pass on spells. It's just that it's fairly restrictive and you generally won't be able to engineer demons the way you're used to.
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01011001 posted:No, it's pretty much what you said, but my take on it was that the general effect is "make them totally cool with demons where they were not before" which is...not really that different from law's straight-up mind control, which he whined about. Pretty much. If one is mind control, so is the other. I could just as easily say: "Oh, Zelenin just enhanced the parts of the brain that foster social bond formation, thus making everyone fanatically inclined towards group cohesion."
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hamburgers in pockets posted:Maybe I'm missing something in Soul Hackers, but do your demons really not gain levels OR pass on skills from fusion? If you're using the fusion thing in your comp menu, then I don't think you can pass on spells. You need to go to the goumaden and fuse fo real. Although unless I'm doing it wrong be prepared for every demon you ever fuse to know dia, patra, and posmudi. Kobogartimer fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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Rirse posted:Really liking Soul Hackers a lot. Even through I been used to the more modern SMT games, I did enjoy the Persona 1 remake and really liking this so far, even through it feels so weird seeing no tutorials at all other then a demon explaining how to talk when I spoke to a random one. Taking the cue from the thread of raising the Hero's strength/defense stats while raising the girl's magic/intelligence stats. Only thing I need to figure out for future reference is getting the loyalty up. I'm sure the veterans in this thread answered you already but loyalty is simple once you get a hang of it; also random NPCs in dungeons "ask you for advice" w/r/t loyalty which can fill you in as well. Ugh I can't shut up about this game. And SMT4 comes out this summer which will probably be just as soon as I finish up Soul Hackers. 3DS is the system to get for Megaten games!
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AradoBalanga posted:That at least looks like something that makes sense. It's just goofy looking. It doesn't to me, I honest to god thought I had been sold a bootleg game or something and the graphics were glitching. Snix posted:Reporting back from The Haunted Mansion in Soul Hackers to say: don't ever, EVER take Kid A if you have a heart; (if you aren't Super Quadruple Omega Mecha Hitler.) What's the formula for fusing Super Quadruple Omega Mecha Hitler? The Moon Monster fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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The Moon Monster posted:What's the formula for fusing Super Quadruple Omega Mecha Hitler? Well, first you need a robot, and then you have to sacrifice 6666 people...  Also jesus SMT2 quit giving me so many Orbs 
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I heard there were multiple endings in Soul Hackers. I'm at the part where it appears that Spooky betrays everyone. This of course, leads to a choice of whether to stay or leave. Does this affect the plot? Are there any good, bad, or canon endings I need to worry about here? Do I get different move-sets like with the Hitomi choice at the Beginning of the game?
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I assume that the weapons with red text in Soul Hackers are all cursed or something. What exactly does that do, other than giving the vaguest descriptions ever? I haven't really noticed anything wrong with using a Tyrfing, for instance.
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I'm not sure about tyrfing but the other ones have put me to sleep when I hit someone and another just plain refuses to attack sometimes.
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Snix posted:I heard there were multiple endings in Soul Hackers. I'm at the part where it appears that Spooky betrays everyone. This of course, leads to a choice of whether to stay or leave. Does this affect the plot? Are there any good, bad, or canon endings I need to worry about here? Do I get different move-sets like with the Hitomi choice at the Beginning of the game? Yes. That decision in particular is critical. In the PSX version, though, it only made a difference on a New Game+. First time through, tough nuts for you, you're getting the bad ending no matter what you choose. I don't know if that's the case for the 3DS version though. Strange Quark posted:I assume that the weapons with red text in Soul Hackers are all cursed or something. What exactly does that do, other than giving the vaguest descriptions ever? I haven't really noticed anything wrong with using a Tyrfing, for instance. Depends on the weapon. Each curse has a different effect.
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I think some of the New Game + stuff was brought into the first playthrough, since I recall hearing that you can't really talk to Mary on your first playthrough in the PSX or Saturn version. I can access her Miscellaneous option and conversations actually change and go places. So, is the "right" choice in the part I'm at to stay?
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So is there any good strategy for the boss of the Auto Factory? He did nothing the whole fight until he whipped out Megidola and wrecked me. That's the thing about these older games in the series, that can happen to you a lot.
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In Soul Hackers, I can't figure out how to make progress at Algon Microelectronics. The switches on the third floor don't seem to toggle any locks that I can see, even with the map hack. e: nevermind, it's the doors just outside the switches Mordecai fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 28, 2013 |
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Edit: Never mind, I found my way!
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I made it through the main game without hitting the freezing glitch. Then just as I'm about to kill off one of the post-game bosses, the game locks up. Has anyone confirmed that it's just spell animations that causes it? Mine seemed to hit when my demon cast megido.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV info: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/27/shin-megami-tensei-iv-developers-answer-fan-questions/ quote:There are no direct connections between Shin Megami Tensei IV and the previous three numbered games. However, there will be remixed versions of their soundtracks. Edit:Was this posted? This is a preview of a SMTIV boss battle music, it's rad as hell (new demon spoiler just in case): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEII4UGEsck Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Apr 28, 2013 |
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Why the gently caress would they ever bring back Macca Beam. WHY.
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Edit: Beaten quote:You can now acquire experience points through demon fusing and also by conversing with them. This is interesting. I wonder if the conversation system might be a little more in-depth from previous games. Or maybe xp is just another thing along with items and money a demon might give for a successful conversation. Joshlemagne fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Apr 28, 2013 |
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Dorroile posted:Why the gently caress would they ever bring back Macca Beam. WHY. Because it's the best thing to punish you. 
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