75% off on Steam today, €2.49 for the full Deluxe edition is a great deal. E: Beaten!
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# ? Apr 28, 2013 19:01 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 13:27 |
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Five bucks for a game better than Simcity 5? Hell yeah.
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# ? Apr 28, 2013 20:01 |
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That's the price where anyone who's on the fence should buy it, immediately.
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# ? Apr 28, 2013 20:20 |
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I just bought this and downloaded the goon gigapack in the OP. Are there any other essentials that don't come in it I should get before I get started, or am I good to go?
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# ? Apr 28, 2013 21:45 |
You'll have to download and update the NAM installation, but otherwise you ought to be good.
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# ? Apr 28, 2013 22:35 |
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Ugh, how the hell do I even install any of these mods? I got the Old Fashioned pack and it came with a million folders with absolutely no instructions. I know they're supposed to go into "C:\Documents and Settings\Greg\My Documents\SimCity 4\Plugins" but... how? What folders do I keep them in? Are the mods applied automatically?
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 00:27 |
Deakul posted:Ugh, how the hell do I even install any of these mods? I got the Old Fashioned pack and it came with a million folders with absolutely no instructions. Just put them into the Plugins folder however. You can use any subfolders you want to keep it organised. Yes they are automatically loaded and used just by being there. One thing to keep an eye out for: The mods are (supposedly) loaded in alphabetical order, and there are a few components, in particular from NAM and CAM, that must be loaded before or after everything else. Those are typically given odd names that will force them to sort first or last, make sure nothing else comes before/after those.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 00:33 |
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I think the dependencies.dat files included in the goon gigapack are broken or something, because having them in my plugin folder caused the game to hang at a black screen when I tried running it. I deleted them and got the dependency compilation pack instead and now it seems to work fine. This won't cause any problems with the other mods will it?
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 00:44 |
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Mice Everywhere posted:I think the dependencies.dat files included in the goon gigapack are broken or something, because having them in my plugin folder caused the game to hang at a black screen when I tried running it. I deleted them and got the dependency compilation pack instead and now it seems to work fine. This won't cause any problems with the other mods will it? I (the person who made the dependency compilation) am not sure of what actual dependencies are in the old gigapack's dependency file, so I can't say for sure, but replacing it won't effect other mods. If no brown boxes or other graphic errors appear on buildings, then you're all set. I'd personally stay away from the gigapack though, since it's quite outdated.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 02:25 |
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Are there any other hosts for NAM? I've tried downloading from the link in the OP a couple times but the RAR file is corrupted.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 05:48 |
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I bought this for myself and friends because of the hilarity of the Simcity (2013) thread, but I can't get the Fhuzo map working. (the cool looking one that uses Old-Fashioned). I have Old-Fashioned installed, Fhuzo is placed in my Regions folder, but it's not detecting it in-game. e: did a more thorough reading and found the other Region folder Skellybones fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Apr 29, 2013 |
# ? Apr 29, 2013 12:24 |
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Shadeoses posted:I bought this for myself and friends because of the hilarity of the Simcity (2013) thread, but I can't get the Fhuzo map working. (the cool looking one that uses Old-Fashioned). I have Old-Fashioned installed, Fhuzo is placed in my Regions folder, but it's not detecting it in-game. Is it in Regions folder that is in My Documents? Because there is Regions folder where the game is installed, but the game reads only the one in My Documents. edit: ha!
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 12:28 |
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Mice Everywhere posted:I think the dependencies.dat files included in the goon gigapack are broken or something, because having them in my plugin folder caused the game to hang at a black screen when I tried running it. I deleted them and got the dependency compilation pack instead and now it seems to work fine. This won't cause any problems with the other mods will it? The game is just loading the files. It can take several minutes to do it. In fact I remember the gigapack taking about 5-10 minutes to load the first time. I would beware that you may not have all of the dependencies now. With that said, there have been other plugin mega packs posted in this thread that are likely way better and more up to date.
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 12:50 |
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archangelwar posted:With that said, there have been other plugin mega packs posted in this thread that are likely way better and more up to date. Any suggestions? I still haven't dug into this game so I have no idea what would be the best or most useful
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# ? Apr 29, 2013 20:45 |
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Does the praetorian pack require any particular dependencies? I'm getting brown boxes on my roads. The Jap pack I mean.
Broand fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Apr 29, 2013 |
# ? Apr 29, 2013 20:47 |
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How do you properly create regions with the SC4 mapper utility? I tried exporting it from the not picture file but it ended up crazy neon ugly.
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# ? Apr 30, 2013 03:22 |
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Gorelab posted:How do you properly create regions with the SC4 mapper utility? I tried exporting it from the not picture file but it ended up crazy neon ugly. You have to go into every single tile in the region and save to get rid of the neon colors in the region view.
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# ? Apr 30, 2013 03:31 |
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On a side note, is there any down side to a region with all big cities versus one with a mix? Edit: Stable budgeting is harder in Simcity 4 but cities grow faster than I remember and holy hell once you hit 20,000ish people commerical just boooms. Gorelab fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Apr 30, 2013 |
# ? Apr 30, 2013 04:36 |
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So I've been away for a few weeks and now that I'm back there's a brand new NAM? How is it? I'm guessing by now most of you guys have tried it or at least tried installing it. What's the verdict?
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# ? Apr 30, 2013 08:11 |
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BrassRoots posted:So I've been away for a few weeks and now that I'm back there's a brand new NAM?
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# ? Apr 30, 2013 16:06 |
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Yeah, I had a quick look last night. Had it running for about 2 hours and no CTD. Some of the new highway stuff looks pretty neat too.
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# ? May 1, 2013 02:14 |
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So, I was wondering if someone could help me out with building a "not grid" city. Basically what I've been doing is running a big avenue through the middle of my region, then doing diagonal roads off that. Off of those diagonal roads, I do some winding streets that I put low density residential zones. This is working alright in making things not a rigid grid, but I'm basically just randomly drawing roads. I don't really have a plan, I'm not even sure what my plan should be.
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# ? May 1, 2013 12:05 |
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triplexpac posted:So, I was wondering if someone could help me out with building a "not grid" city. Try to build the city organically, so start at a place a city would form, like a railroad/highway crossing, the mouth of a river, near a hillstream, something like that. Start small with a roughly circular center of town, then build outwards using the contours of natural features/large infrastructure as your guide. If parts of your town are gridlike it does not matter, as long as the overall shape is not a square! Mixing zones helps a lot, city centers should have a mix of commercial and residential. Putting services in logical real world places instead of the optimal simcity placement also helps, like a large hospital on the border of a city center, and only small precincts in residential areas.
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# ? May 1, 2013 12:34 |
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triplexpac posted:So, I was wondering if someone could help me out with building a "not grid" city. Another idea is to just look at Google maps for examples of the kind of cities you want to make. An old, major metropolis? Look at how NYC formed starting from the southern tip of Manhattan then progressed northward. Industrial city? Look at Pittsburgh's industrial centers around rivers and the residential areas where the workers settled. Boomtown? Take a look at Las Vegas's depressing grid that stretches to the desert then disappears. These are all American examples, of course, and much more modern cities than say Paris or London, but unfortunately SimCity 4's grid system doesn't lend well to European streets. Small details help with the character too. For example, Broadway in NYC is a long, diagonal street that cuts through the grid because it used to be a Native American trail that led from the Southern part of the island to the North. Throwing a grid down in the later parts of your city is fine and will look like a real city, because eventually these places got too big to build organic streets. They said "gently caress it, put a grid down" because it's the best layout for cars. Most grids, however, have something to interrupt them, be it parks or diagonals or traffic circles, etc.
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# ? May 1, 2013 15:26 |
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Is there a megapack without any additional ploppable items? I'd like to play with a larger number of buildings but without cluttering up the entire menu. Alternatively, is it easy to tell which packages are ploppable vs naturally appearing?
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# ? May 1, 2013 17:24 |
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When you download them, they usually are labeled grow or plop (or growable/ploppable). Landmark too. The packs are all going to be mixed, but you might be able to search for plop and landmark and take out those files or something.
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# ? May 1, 2013 17:27 |
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Any tips for transportation with highways and buses and such? No one seems to use my bus stops and I have some major traffic jams with my roads city, but I'm not sure if 30k people is enough to want highways. Edit: Also is there anyway to make the resolution wide screen or whatnot? Gorelab fucked around with this message at 02:17 on May 2, 2013 |
# ? May 2, 2013 01:42 |
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Gorelab posted:Any tips for transportation with highways and buses and such? No one seems to use my bus stops and I have some major traffic jams with my roads city, but I'm not sure if 30k people is enough to want highways. Download the Launcher from Simtropolis for all the resolutions you could poke a stick at. for 30,000ppl I wouldnt worry aboout traffic jams. Just build out until you need rail.
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# ? May 2, 2013 08:38 |
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OK, so this is embarrassing but I'm going to post some city shots. I'm terrible at names but they will have to do. I decided to load up Fhuzo with the Oldfashioned pack and went to work. Now I've gone down the rabbit hole a bit further and download shitloads of customs I expect my city will change over time. Anyway, on with the show! So this was just starting out. This was before I thought too much about how I wanted it to look. I had a basic idea of cities near coastal and river regions with the main industry in the mouth of the river where it would be protected from the elements and would potentially have a large port. As you can see from the tile I decided would be my urban center I built up instead out out. Yuk. No natural growth or sweeping farms or terrible urban sprawl. Just shapely downtown. At least the god-fearing sims also appreciate a good mural. Yeah, I don't really "get" interchanges yet. I have so many terrible roads and railways I'm going to have to fix. Okay, let's try this again. On a new tile I built up the farms and a bit of a town center based around the water tower/rural shipping hub. It even looks quite nice! I managed to get some pics after expanding up the river and working on my first tiles to build them out. Here's an overview. Note the Grand Fromage influence of placing the baseball stadium in the shittiest part of town. An attempt to get some urban sprawl going. I wanted to make sure there were a few curves and empty spaces around for when the population starts growing. The best part about blending Grand Fromage and Oldfashioned is the mix of surprises. Santa!! I wish I could build like some of you guys. I'm definitely going to work on a rail network while I'm home this break. I just kept dragging track around, not planning or making any sense, I just tried to bulldoze as little housing and commercial as possible. I'm realizing now that you have to build out the train lines before expanding the housing and commercial because a train line is what makes that possible in the real world. BrassRoots fucked around with this message at 09:59 on May 2, 2013 |
# ? May 2, 2013 09:54 |
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Is there any way to get poor people out of $$$ wealth buildings? Also what's the best way to get demand for the rich and middle class up? I don't really have a lot of low value area so I have a lot of zones without much growth even though I have crazy demand for $ wealth people.
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# ? May 2, 2013 22:48 |
Gorelab posted:Is there any way to get poor people out of $$$ wealth buildings? Also what's the best way to get demand for the rich and middle class up? I don't really have a lot of low value area so I have a lot of zones without much growth even though I have crazy demand for $ wealth people. Have you tried education, recreation, healthcare, and safety?
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# ? May 2, 2013 23:06 |
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Gorelab posted:Is there any way to get poor people out of $$$ wealth buildings? Also what's the best way to get demand for the rich and middle class up? I don't really have a lot of low value area so I have a lot of zones without much growth even though I have crazy demand for $ wealth people. Check traffic noise. Rich people loving hate living on noisy streets. Don't expect rich folks to live near a major artery. This is also where city planning comes into play, as you need to ensure that a lot of people aren't driving past rich people buildings. If the road they live on is noisy they won't live there no matter how many services the locale has.
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# ? May 2, 2013 23:44 |
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That may be it. Hm. I wonder why it was working earlier. Time to see if I can keep the basic layout without loving things up too much since my private school is in that area.
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# ? May 3, 2013 00:50 |
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Gorelab posted:Is there any way to get poor people out of $$$ wealth buildings? Also what's the best way to get demand for the rich and middle class up? I don't really have a lot of low value area so I have a lot of zones without much growth even though I have crazy demand for $ wealth people. Demolish the reduced wealth buildings and put down services. It's better than dealing with vastly reduced demand in an area.
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# ? May 6, 2013 14:20 |
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triplexpac posted:So, I was wondering if someone could help me out with building a "not grid" city. When starting a new city zoom out all the way and use ploppable trees to draw out your trunk roads. Then just follow that path of trees with the road tool. That should give you a nice organic layout.
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# ? May 6, 2013 21:17 |
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Does the Old Fashioned pack include the HT-I fix? Or the Space Centre or Opera House fix?
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# ? May 7, 2013 01:53 |
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The Slippery Nipple posted:Does the Old Fashioned pack include the HT-I fix? Or the Space Centre or Opera House fix? I don't know the answer to this but regarding the HT-i fix and other stuff like it you have to use sc4datpacker to combine the original Simcity_1.dat and the fixes into one .dat file, then replace the original with the file you have just created. Take note that you need to register for sc4devotion.com to download sc4datpacker. Urrrrrrggghhhh. I just started playing so I can't tell you if the whole process has worked or not, but the game is not crashing. I'm guessing that the pack doesn't contain the modified file but if it contains the HT-i fix then it probably doesn't work right until you do all of this.
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# ? May 7, 2013 02:12 |
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The Slippery Nipple posted:Does the Old Fashioned pack include the HT-I fix? Or the Space Centre or Opera House fix? It includes the space center and opera house fixes. It doesn't include the HT-I fix because of economic negligence on my part. For the record, I'm working on Old Fashioned 3.0. It will include the HT-I fix along with the new stable NAM and a few buildings. But mostly I'm trying to organize the file system so that it's comprehensible. Brassroots, those screens look really nice!
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# ? May 7, 2013 04:55 |
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I got it to work on Windows 8. Strangely enough, the last time it didn't work, I had dat-packed in the high-tech jobs fix with something from CAM and Simcity_1.dat but this time I didn't. So while there's double-demand in certain areas thanks to both CAM and the high-tech jobs fix, at least it runs. I have NAM, CAM, SPAM, RTMT, fixes like the opera house, schools, and space port, some HD terrain mods, and random poo poo like the plasma gasification plant I posted about on page one.
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# ? May 7, 2013 05:46 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 13:27 |
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I may be missing it, but after looking I couldn't find a download for this high tech industry fix. I've been having problems with HT and it's likely because I don't have this mod.
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# ? May 7, 2013 08:02 |