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That the nationalist right in Hungary has been ore or less controlling politics for several years now is nothing new; it is intersting to observe however, that they also control more and more of the public discourse and have grown increasingly visible. One instance are bumper stickers depicting Greater Hungary, i.e. the borders of the Hungary before it lost almost three quarters of its territory after WWI. The vast majority of the population lost was non-Hungarian in ethnicity, but about 3 million Hungarians were living outside of Hungary afterwards. This creates strong tensions to this day.  Another bumper sticker. It reads "Hungarian child on board"  The Old Hungarian alphabet (which had become basically obsolete by the 11th century) has turned into a popular symbol for right-wing nationalists, comparable to Germanic/Nordic runes, and can be seen more and more often. This pub is a popular meeting place for young nationalists.  During this rally by the extreme right-wing Jobbik party (currently Hungary's third-largest party), the Arpad stripes as well as the Szekély flag are flown. The stripes are an ancient symbol of Hungary and were in this form also the flag of the fascist Arrow Cross Party that ruled Hungary in 1944/45. The Szekély flag is used by the Hungarian minority living in Romania (about 1,2 million strong). Jobbik use it to symbolise their "Pan-Hungarian" ambitions.  The Szekély flag is flown in front of the parliament as well; in turn the EU flag was removed.  In recent years, numerous statues and portraits of Miklós Horthy have sprung up throughout the country. Horthy was regent of Hungary from 1920 to 1944 and led the country into an alliance with Nazi Germany in order to regain the territories lost in 1920.  The magazine "Magyar Oldal" (Hungarian side) shows pictures of the "main protagonists of 'mocsokrátia'" on its current issue. "Mocsokrátia" is a portmanteau of "mocsók" (dirt) and "demokrácia"  When I was in Budapest a couple of weeks ago, I also visited the parliament building which is utterly magnificent. I found it pretty disturbing though that since 2000 (shortly after Orbán first came to power) the Crown of St Stephen resides beneath the central dome of the building. While the crown is *the* symbol of Hungary and its history (in Hungary, it is simply called the "Holy Crown"), it still strikes me as rather odd that an inherently monarchical symbol was moved to the architectural and symbolic centre of the parliament. Since May 2011 it is guarded by a newly established branch of the military, the Hungarian Crown Guard. Its members are required to take an oath that they will protect the crown with their life. Disclaimer: I'm in Austria, not Hungary. Maybe a Hungarian goon could tell us more about the situation in his/her country?
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What is going on here? More people living inside this circle than outside of it. 
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May 6, 2013 21:49
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Sword of Chomsky posted:What is going on here? It's a poster meant to appeal to middle-aged cowards who hate Obama. Earlier today, The Onion's twitter was hacked by the Syrian Electronic Army, a pro-Assad group of internet vigilantes. The Onion responded as only they could: Syrian Electronic Army Has A Little Fun Before Inevitable Upcoming Deaths At Hands Of Rebels
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May 6, 2013 21:57
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System Metternich posted:
Ah, the Horthy period, when Hungary was "a kingdom with no king, led by an admiral with no fleet in a country with no coastline."  If you know, are these modern right-wing nationalists generally royalists, or is there more of a connection to Hungarian fascism ala the Arrow Cross? 
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May 6, 2013 22:12
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Sword of Chomsky posted:What is going on here? It is a shooting target like these   Ummm this is disturbing  Some People Are Alive Simply Because It's Illegal to Kill Them What the gently caress Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 22:22 on May 6, 2013 |
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May 6, 2013 22:15
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Nothing like an NRA convention What is the context of that? 
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May 6, 2013 22:25
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May 6, 2013 22:27
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System Metternich posted:Disclaimer: I'm in Austria, not Hungary. Maybe a Hungarian goon could tell us more about the situation in his/her country? I'm not Hungarian but this is all I've been seeing for the last three days:     http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/130504/hungary-far-right-jobbik-party-anti-jewish-rally-budapest http://www.euronews.com/2013/05/04/jobbik-leads-anti-jewish-rally-in-budapest-on-eve-of-world-jewish-congress/ What the hell Hungary
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May 6, 2013 22:35
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They're practicing shooting white people with guns, I don't see a problem. This ad is a good example of Conservative ads being right (Blair is a dangerous monster) for the wrong reason (because he isn't a Tory).
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May 6, 2013 22:35
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Sword of Chomsky posted:More people living inside this circle than outside of it. Did I do this right?  1400000000 KT
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May 6, 2013 22:39
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I love tea party Jesus.  ^^^ I'm pretty sure 140 Gigaton blast would kill everyone on the planet. Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 22:45 on May 6, 2013 |
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Man, is this guy's face gonna be red when someone tells him his SS tattoo is misspelled. It should be "heißt", not "heist". Leaving out the most German of letters - oh you'd better believe that's a paddling. Here's two of my "favorite" Eastern European nazi bands:  Graveland from Poland.  Nokturnal Mortum from Ukraine. All of them honorary members of the master race by virtue of taking kickass LARP pictures.
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May 6, 2013 23:02
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Why would people of Slavic ancestry even want to emulate the Nazis at all, in anything? Hitler literally wanted to make their fathers and grandfathers into slaves forever. That's something I've never understood about the far right in Eastern Europe, could someone explain it to me?
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May 6, 2013 23:17
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Highspeeddub posted:The first picture I recognized from a blog that posted a series of Wehrmacht photos taken during the beginning of Operation Barbarossa in Belarus. Despite what the history books say, some German troops were greeted with flowers, bread and salt welcoming them. I'm sure the fascists appreciated the kindness. NWS http://i.imgur.com/mvv6ZBA.jpg NWS
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May 6, 2013 23:20
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Found all these searching for NRA con photos:     
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May 6, 2013 23:22
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Mans posted:I'm sure the fascists appreciated the kindness. Of course they did, especially when they rounded up entire villages, put them in the local church and burned them to death. The Nazi photos are propaganda too. 
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May 6, 2013 23:28
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Loving Life Partner posted:Found all these searching for NRA con photos: Some more   quote:Elaih Wagan, 3-Year-Old Texan, Honored By NRA As Youngest Lifetime Member quote:“I like guns because guns are fun,” 9-year-old attendee Kaykay Mace said, according to the New York Daily News. quote:“I like it because I like the smell of gunsmoke,” said five year old Cooper. Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 6, 2013 |
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May 6, 2013 23:31
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Pacra posted:WWII gunchat I believe that the PPD is the "older" of the two, not that it matters really. Also, those may be Russian RGD-33 grenades. 
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May 6, 2013 23:31
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NESARA is the best conspiracy theory. Yiddish WW1 recruitment posters.  
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May 6, 2013 23:33
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Smirr posted:Man, is this guy's face gonna be red when someone tells him his SS tattoo is misspelled. It should be "heißt", not "heist". Leaving out the most German of letters - oh you'd better believe that's a paddling. You forgot the best Graveland picture. 
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May 7, 2013 00:11
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"Personally I think nazis are rather uncool"    
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Suddenly I want to play this again: Let's get some more fnordchat in here.
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May 7, 2013 01:15
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Could someone repost that map/chart thing of American regime change interventions in (I think only) Latin America? Much appreciated!
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the2ndgenesis posted:Why would people of Slavic ancestry even want to emulate the Nazis at all, in anything? Hitler literally wanted to make their fathers and grandfathers into slaves forever. That's something I've never understood about the far right in Eastern Europe, could someone explain it to me? I don't know, but if I had to guess I'd say it hinges on overestimating the Nazis' willingness to take people into the fold based on anti-semitism alone and on underestimating the Nazis' willingness to kill people that were no longer expedient. It basically seems like Eastern European neo-Nazis point to WWII collaborators from nations not considered Aryan by the Nazis as proof that they could totally be one of "the good ones", but forget or ignore that the Nazis never got to the point where they had the breathing room to go all SA on those collaborators.  I had entirely forgotten how goony Ernst Röhm looked.
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     "April 30th, 1975; the Day of Victory of the Vietnamese people against the genocidal war waged relentlessly by the US imperialists! Long Live Socialist Vietnam!"  "Don’t let out information! Even walls have ears. Never talk to strangers about operations!"  "May Day poster from the Soviet Union - Under Lenin’s Banner, Comintern, Forward!"  
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May 7, 2013 01:53
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Smirr posted:Man, is this guy's face gonna be red when someone tells him his SS tattoo is misspelled. It should be "heißt", not "heist". Leaving out the most German of letters - oh you'd better believe that's a paddling. Hahaha, oh man, that panel from Preacher about those who are supposed to represent the best of the white race being complete loving goobers comes instantly to mind. 
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Smirr posted:Man, is this guy's face gonna be red when someone tells him his SS tattoo is misspelled. It should be "heißt", not "heist". Leaving out the most German of letters - oh you'd better believe that's a paddling.  No mention of convicted murderer, church arsonist and white supremacist Varg "Count Grishnack" Vikernes?!
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Fluoride Jones posted:Hahaha, oh man, that panel from Preacher about those who are supposed to represent the best of the white race being complete loving goobers comes instantly to mind. 
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Fluoride Jones posted:Hahaha, oh man, that panel from Preacher about those who are supposed to represent the best of the white race being complete loving goobers comes instantly to mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTjAuyxo68E
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Omi-Polari posted:Is that Battlecry? Best worst racist metal band ever. I don't know what's more hilarious, the song or the loving comments. 
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People who get bullied for being unattractive or not very bright tend to sympathize with fringe groups, I think. I knew a developmentally disabled black kid in high school who hung out with some ignorant rednecks (small and predominantly white school/town) and he would espouse terrible racist poo poo, read Mein Kampf, used the N*word in a derogatory fashion. It was pretty hosed up but I hope he got over the self-hate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsnIozKuxaw I can't stand when people who can't quite get a good grasp on things get taken advantage of by slightly "smarter" people. 
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Brief (~8 minute) lecture: "Does Capitalism work?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcC8sXdbWSw
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 Syrian WMDs? Pics or it didn't happen Oblama.
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The chin is one defining factor between anatomically modern homo sapiens skulls from archaic homo sapiens
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