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Had to look up PAL vs NTSC metroid, it looks mostly the same but is obviously slower for the cutscenes and such when put next to the NTSC one. Bonus "I don't even French and I can tell that's a very terse summary" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Okm8dF55DI
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What's the point of a comparison like that if you don't actually sync up the games at specific events, such as "start of gameplay".
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I finally bought a 3DSXL this weekend, and after reading this thread I got Denpa Men for it. Since I'm having such a blast with it, I'll definitely buy the sequel too, but what other games do you guys recommend from the eShop? I've already bought Wario Land 2, Link's Awakening, Adventure of Link, and Harvest Moon. I like platformers and RPGs, and I have a shameful addiction to Jewel-Quest type games.
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The new Ace Attorney game Dual Destinies has been announced for an eShop-exclusive release in the US and Europe this fall.
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Still Fluxing posted:I finally bought a 3DSXL this weekend, and after reading this thread I got Denpa Men for it. Since I'm having such a blast with it, I'll definitely buy the sequel too, but what other games do you guys recommend from the eShop? I've already bought Wario Land 2, Link's Awakening, Adventure of Link, and Harvest Moon. If you like Zelda enough to buy Zelda 2, you should know that both of the Oracles (you know, the two GBC games that Capcom developed) will be coming out on the VC later this month. Strangely, their price is still listed as TBD, which probably means they'll be $6 each like Link's Awakening is.
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Laser Spider posted:If you like Zelda enough to buy Zelda 2, you should know that both of the Oracles (you know, the two GBC games that Capcom developed) will be coming out on the VC later this month. Strangely, their price is still listed as TBD, which probably means they'll be $6 each like Link's Awakening is. I mostly got Zelda 2 because it's the only 2D Zelda I'd never played. I know it has a pretty bad reputation, but I figured it would still be worth the pittance it cost just to have tried it.  I'll definitely be getting the Oracle games when they come out - I already own them on cartridge, but I want a back-up. The reason I finally caved and bought a 3DS to begin with it is that I want to play the LttP sequel once it comes out (pretty par for the course for me; Zelda's the reason I've bought all my other handheld systems too).
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Zelda 2 rules. Stick with it, it starts tough but you get plenty of tools and shortcuts to make it easy as you push through. It's like the game is testing you, and once you pass an obstacle, you don't have to worry about it anymore.
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I only played it for about 15 minutes last night (before I got distracted by the Denpa men), but it seems like it could be fun once I figure out how everything works.
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May 13, 2013 20:05
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The game is really tough really early and is incredibly obtuse about where you should go exactly in the beginning ("GO WEST" is Zelda 2-ese for "go Northeast-ish"), but if you stick with it past the first or second dungeon/castle you should have a good idea of whether or not the game is for you. It's my personal favourite LoZ game, but it's a very divisive game.
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May 13, 2013 20:33
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:What's the point of a comparison like that if you don't actually sync up the games at specific events, such as "start of gameplay". As far as I know, Super Metroid was optimised in a similar manner to Kirby's Adventure - the music was retimed and Samus herself was retimed but everything else runs at the slower PAL speed. Laser Spider posted:If you like Zelda enough to buy Zelda 2, you should know that both of the Oracles (you know, the two GBC games that Capcom developed) will be coming out on the VC later this month. Strangely, their price is still listed as TBD, which probably means they'll be $6 each like Link's Awakening is. The JP eShop did a promotion where you could buy 'em as a 1000-yen bundle for a few weeks, so I'm sure we'll get something similar.
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I like Zelda 2better than 1, but it does really suffer from the fact that the new items you find are almost all what people refer to as "strangely-shaped keys" rather than new abilities like in most Zelda games. Like the flute, which does nothing but unlock a path and make a dungeon appear, or the raft, which just lets you move from the first overland map to the second, or the hammer, which is literally a key which unlocks some doors on the overworld (including one you can't even see, stupidly enough).
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May 14, 2013 00:26
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elf help book posted:Zelda 2 rules. Stick with it, it starts tough but you get plenty of tools and shortcuts to make it easy as you push through. It's like the game is testing you, and once you pass an obstacle, you don't have to worry about it anymore. I felt the opposite about it; I was a total tool and spent about 3 hours one day farming outside Dungeon 2 until my levels were about halfway to max. This made all the dungeons really easy and unstressful, and I just made sure to level up right before I reach the end of a dungeon (where it gives you a free level up).
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May 14, 2013 00:33
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What exactly were the difference between Oracle of Ages and Seasons? I always assumed it was like Pokemon where they were fairly similar.
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Nope. Completely different games with some link-up/data transfer functionality between them.
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Astro7x posted:What exactly were the difference between Oracle of Ages and Seasons? I always assumed it was like Pokemon where they were fairly similar. They're completely different games with different dungeons and everything.
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Yo PAL dudes, the Resident Evil demo is up on the Wii U eShop. 619MB.
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May 14, 2013 01:16
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They both even have some different dungeon items. Ages has the more clever items, Seasons have the more direct approach items. Both are stellar Zelda games, though.
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Seasons and Ages aren't just wholly different games, but they even have totally different structures. Seasons is a lot like the older 2D Zelda games, while Ages is like what you would get if you took a 3D Zelda and made it in 2D. In Seasons you can pretty much go straight from dungeon to dungeon, with little in your way between them aside from enemies and the occasional puzzle, as you could in the NES games and Link to the Past. In Ages you have to complete various tasks in-between dungeons, and it can take you over an hour to get from one dungeon to the next, more like the more modern Zeldas.
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Personally, I've always preferred OoA, because it's more puzzle-based than OoS. On the other hand, OoS has Subrosia going for it... I remember how exciting it was to explore that world the first time I played it.
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I always enjoyed Ages way more. But I can't deny both are fantastic games. I'm pretty happy they're going to be on the VC soon, Both so I can have them on my 3DS and can play 'em again. And so new people can experience it. I know quite a few people who have never played them, and a lot that assumed it was a pokemon situation where both games were slight variations of the same game. I hope NOA does the same promotion where you can get both games together for a discounted price, but I'm not going to get my hopes up too high.
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Yeah I've never played either of them, so I'm looking forward to being able to grab them.
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gently caress OoT and MM or WW or whatever, Oracle of Ages and Seasons are the best Zelda games and I won't hear anything against it. 
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Terper posted:gently caress OoT and MM or WW or whatever, Oracle of Ages and Seasons are the best Zelda games and I won't hear anything against it. I'm inclined to agree. I mean, I love LttP with all my heart, but the Oracle games actually do have more replay value.
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May 14, 2013 15:49
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I definitely think they're the best of the 2D Zeldas. The connectivity between the two is really cool as well.
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Honestly, I loved both of the Oracle games, but they're kind of a blur to me. I don't think I ever beat either of them.  Needless to say, I'll be grabbing both of them and rectifying that posthaste!
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Regy Rusty posted:I definitely think they're the best of the 2D Zeldas. Have you played all the 2D Zeldas? I will defend Link's Awakening with my life.
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I've played every Zelda game. Link's Awakening is my least favorite of all of them besides the first two. It's short and fun and has some good dungeons, but I don't think it measures up to any of the others.
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Regy Rusty posted:I've played every Zelda game. Link's Awakening is my least favorite of all of them besides the first two. How is it possible to have such objectively wrong opinions
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Still Fluxing posted:I mostly got Zelda 2 because it's the only 2D Zelda I'd never played. I know it has a pretty bad reputation, but I figured it would still be worth the pittance it cost just to have tried it. I'll defend Zelda 2 this way: It has a lot of good ideas, and the music is great. If it has any problem, it would be that it kind of drags after a certain point. It's one of the few games I think would be better if you just cut it in half and let it end earlier. You'll get your 5 dollars worth out of it, if nothing else.
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When the Oracles games came out I played Ages first but I was disappointed with the time element. Also, the mermaid's suit was an awful item. I remember wearing my thumb out trying to move around water with that thing. Seasons was much more fun. Link's Awakening is still the best because you get the Roc's Feather earlier.
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I picked up Mario Land 2 on 3DS and I apparently had completely forgotten how floaty the physics in this game are. Is it a low framerate thing?
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I only got to play Seasons as a kid so I'm excited to play Ages for the first time.
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I had both, and switched back and forth whenever I got stuck. I got stuck a lot.  Never finished either one. I'm looking forward to trying again!
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Seasons was a cool game but Ages isn't very good.
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Terper posted:gently caress OoT and MM or WW or whatever, Oracle of Ages and Seasons are the best Zelda games and I won't hear anything against it. Brofist.  I wonder how/if they're going to handle the linked game stuff. Weren't there some bits you absolutely HAD to have the link cable for, or was it all password-accessible?
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absolutely anything posted:Seasons was a cool game but Ages isn't very good. What? They're both awesome. Really want to echo the "best of the 2D Zeldas" thing because yeah, they really might be.
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Ciaphas posted:Weren't there some bits you absolutely HAD to have the link cable for, or was it all password-accessible? I'm pretty sure everything can be done via password.
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I liked both games at the time but I don't think they've aged all that well. The novelty of the connectivity features and other stuff like the gashapon trees tends to help gloss over the fact that a lot of parts are kinda dull.Ciaphas posted:Brofist. Everything can be done with passwords, yeah.
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I got both of them in a garage sale 5 or 6 years ago but the battery is dead in one of them (can't remember which) so it'll be nice to actually be able to play BOTH.
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Anyone who's saying the Oracle games are the best 2D Zeldas must have not played Link to the Past or Link's Awakening anytime recently. Or haven't played through Ages recently to remember what a boring slog that game is. Or are crazy. Or are a combination of any of these.
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