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Siroc posted:Why does Hangouts need to validate my phone number if they won't merge these in the future? http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4318830/inside-hangouts-googles-big-fix-for-its-messaging-mess Verge confirmed that Google Voice has been "pushed over to the Hangouts team" and they were told that Hangouts is the "future of Google Voice". They're probably not ready yet. So, in the future (no one knows how far right now), Voice will cease to exist and merge into Hangouts.
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Is there a decent app to use my Nexus 7 (or Gnex) to take payments in a food truck? I still need to get a card reader as well, but I trying to see if it's even worth it. Edit: I guess a better question is: is there a better alternative to Square Double edit: gently caress, didn't refresh. \/\/\/ XIII fucked around with this message at 05:49 on May 16, 2013 |
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I think Square is pretty much the go-to one for that right now.
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# ? May 16, 2013 05:45 |
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Is there an easy way to fix the tags of songs you have uploaded to Play Music? Also, how can I stop Play Music from splitting up albums with multiple artists?
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# ? May 16, 2013 05:48 |
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Vagrancy posted:
This is glorious news, thanks!
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# ? May 16, 2013 05:55 |
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XIII posted:Is there a decent app to use my Nexus 7 (or Gnex) to take payments in a food truck? I still need to get a card reader as well, but I trying to see if it's even worth it. The only two I've seen are Square and PayPal.
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# ? May 16, 2013 06:12 |
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I have to say I really don't get Hangouts - all it seems to do is replace Google Talk with a new version capable of group chat and a bunch of pretty major regressions. I don't see how this is at all different the the Messenger component of the G+ app which is still separate. Maybe I'm just going crazy but is there no way to see who is online and available? GTalk used to tell you (and show an icon to indicate the other party was on a video capable device). Also not only is the online indicator gone from the People app (must have relied on Talk I guess) there also doesn't seem to be any way of starting a Hangout from there - confusingly the 'Start hangout' option under the G+ section starts a G+ Hangout which is an entirely different thing.
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# ? May 16, 2013 07:23 |
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After going to the Play Store on a web browser and installing Hangouts that way, I now have the Hangouts name and icon in the Apps list in Settings, but the Talk icon with the Hangouts name in the app drawer (of Nova Prime). , Google?
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# ? May 16, 2013 07:53 |
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hooah posted:After going to the Play Store on a web browser and installing Hangouts that way, I now have the Hangouts name and icon in the Apps list in Settings, but the Talk icon with the Hangouts name in the app drawer (of Nova Prime). , Google? After installing Hangouts I could actually still open Talk and use it. I had to manually uninstall it. It confused the poo poo out of me because I was getting notifications from both for a while. I have no idea how or why this happened.
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# ? May 16, 2013 07:57 |
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the kawaiiest posted:After installing Hangouts I could actually still open Talk and use it. I had to manually uninstall it. It confused the poo poo out of me because I was getting notifications from both for a while. I have no idea how or why this happened. I saw your post in the other thread, but I don't have Talk in either location anymore, just the icon in the app drawer.
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# ? May 16, 2013 08:01 |
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Ugghh what a mess - this definitely isn't solving anything, just causing further confusion
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# ? May 16, 2013 08:09 |
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hooah posted:I saw your post in the other thread, but I don't have Talk in either location anymore, just the icon in the app drawer. Well Hangouts replaces Talk, your icon set probably sees it as Talk and is assigning that icon to it.
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# ? May 16, 2013 08:13 |
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Swiftkey's on sale, half price from the looks of it.
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# ? May 16, 2013 08:27 |
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Thermopyle posted:I like circles, but I don't like how they're pushing them into Talk (Hangouts). I don't think I've chatted via IM with any of the thousands of people in my circles ever, but now I've got to manage them along side my real contacts. Mega Comrade posted:I'd really like to filter by circle at least. Hopefully if enough people moan about it through the suggestions feature then Google will add it. dissss posted:I have to say I really don't get Hangouts - all it seems to do is replace Google Talk with a new version capable of group chat and a bunch of pretty major regressions. I don't see how this is at all different the the Messenger component of the G+ app which is still separate. Also I've noticed a much larger and quite significant delay in delivering messages to devices since the switch.
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# ? May 16, 2013 09:51 |
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Yeah I'm not liking this thing either. I just spent like ten minutes trying to figure out how to change my status and how to see who's online, only to realize that neither is possible. How do you make a chat client that doesn't let people see which of their friends are online?
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# ? May 16, 2013 10:03 |
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the kawaiiest posted:Yeah I'm not liking this thing either. I just spent like ten minutes trying to figure out how to change my status and how to see who's online, only to realize that neither is possible. How do you make a chat client that doesn't let people see which of their friends are online? In its current incarnation, it's poo poo. By the way for those complaining the old Messenger app is still there, I would expect it to remain until they update the Google+ app since that's where that lives.
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# ? May 16, 2013 10:28 |
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Instead of having three different messaging apps on my phone that all do similar things but aren't connected, now I have the same app on three different devices that all interconnect but have different feature sets and work in different ways, plus one of the original apps. On my phone the contact list is a billion people long because it includes every single G+ contact including people who are in Circles specifically tagged as people who I am "following". Yeah, I sure do want to send a Hangout request to Larry Page. Some of the people in the list don't own Android devices and I only have phone numbers for them, so I'm not really sure what exactly the app is going to do if I try to send them a message. On my desktop the contact list shows about eight people and that's it, I can't work out what that list actually represents. It's not online people because one of them has data permanently disabled on their phone and another one of them is currently in another country without roaming. On my tablet the app refuses to install because Google can't even set permissions for their own apps correctly. Meanwhile G+ Messenger is still sitting on my device and is still somehow something different to whatever this is. I can message other people with that and it works, but if I go to the G+ website and send a message then that shows up in Hangouts. This is a complete disaster, I think it's actually worse than before. Google nailed it again.
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# ? May 16, 2013 10:37 |
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I just can't get over how stupid this is. What were they thinking? I just don't understand.
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kitten smoothie posted:Oh, wait, no, it doesn't have a purpose after all. Holy poo poo. That's terrible. I'm out of town and can't use my Q...and now it's truly a paperweight. What the hell Google? I know it was a failure, but to kill it just like that? Wow.
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hotsauce posted:Holy poo poo. That's terrible. I'm out of town and can't use my Q...and now it's truly a paperweight.
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hooah posted:After going to the Play Store on a web browser and installing Hangouts that way, I now have the Hangouts name and icon in the Apps list in Settings, but the Talk icon with the Hangouts name in the app drawer (of Nova Prime). , Google? Same thing happened to me. From the app drawer, drag it to Edit, click the icon, and slide the page to the right to get to the built in icons. The Talk icon is still listed as default, but scroll down into the list of app icons and you should see the new one. Select it and presto
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# ? May 16, 2013 12:21 |
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So is there really a point to switch to Google Music from Spotify? Other than price point? 7.99 a month on Google or 9.99 a month on Spotify, can Google Music do everything spotify can? Can you find the same music on both?
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# ? May 16, 2013 12:27 |
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Is there a unified "Check in" app which lets me check in at locations to the major social networks in one go?
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Flaggy posted:So is there really a point to switch to Google Music from Spotify? Other than price point? 7.99 a month on Google or 9.99 a month on Spotify, can Google Music do everything spotify can? Can you find the same music on both? Google Music app supports landscape view.
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# ? May 16, 2013 12:39 |
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the kawaiiest posted:How do you make a chat client that doesn't let people see which of their friends are online? In Google's mind, it probably doesn't matter because if they aren't online, the chat gets sent to their inbox (which is kind of annoying because once you're back online, you also get the messages in Hangouts).
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Flaggy posted:So is there really a point to switch to Google Music from Spotify? Other than price point? 7.99 a month on Google or 9.99 a month on Spotify, can Google Music do everything spotify can? Can you find the same music on both? Does Spotify let you upload your own MP3s to their servers? Also so far Google Music's radio function has been way better at finding music I like than Spotify's
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Sendo posted:Google Music app supports landscape view. Thats awesome. signalnoise posted:Does Spotify let you upload your own MP3s to their servers? Also so far Google Music's radio function has been way better at finding music I like than Spotify's No, it would be nice, but yeah that would be a plus of using Google Music. So odd problem, when I try to upload more of my music it says I am over my 20,000 limit, but when I sign into Google music it says only 539 songs have been uploaded, anyone know what would be causing this? Flaggy fucked around with this message at 13:24 on May 16, 2013 |
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Tunga posted:
G+ Messenger has always been useless and needs to die yesterday. The only thing it does is let you send messages to other G+ users on their phone. It doesn't send or receive messages from gchat, hangouts, or any web service. It is literally a redundant and pointless phone to phone messaging service. I kind of get what google is trying to do, but I can't believe that they thought this was good enough to release. Without SMS and MMS functionality with and without google voice, all this is is a glorified reskin of Google Talk. And honestly, they should have made the new hangouts the default chat service on Gmail and google/ig (at least until they kill it later this year). I like the way that it hands conversations on a conversation level instead of on a contact level. I like the UI of the phone app. I like the standard inclusion of EMOJI and I like the in line pictures. I guess I get that they want you to use this more like text messaging instead of IM and that is why they don't readily show you user online/away status, but I think that is a mistake. I can't believe they didn't kill G+ messenger. And I can't understand why they didn't include SMS and MMS from the get go. Their focus really needed to be "Hangouts is the only IM type communication tool that you need from here out and we are rolling ALL of our services in to it." Maybe next version...
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# ? May 16, 2013 13:30 |
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I'm actually toughing it out on Hangouts for one reason and one reason only: The ability to actually continue the conversation on literally any device I have the application on is VERY valuable to me. I'd have to say that Talk REALLY pissed me off about that. I'd leave to go somewhere, continue the conversation on my phone from my computer and none of the messages I had received or sent would be there. Or it'd try to sit there and repopulate the entire conversation over a low 3G signal and dig into battery. I'd love indicators to know if someone was offline/online, a way to change my status, and something to tell me if someone was mobile or not, but for me, this one feature alone is keeping me with Hangouts (that and the problems I had trying to get it to reinstall after uninstalling it...). I did just notice something that showed up on three different IM windows, however: Google Hangouts posted:Keith is not currently on Hangouts. You can still send messages that they will see later I didn't see these messages yesterday and they're not there for every contact. Maybe Google can update the client without a user having to redownload something? Granted, this is on the Chrome extension so that's probably what happened anyway. I did send a bunch of bug reports with the Android app though (including mentioning some things said here) so hopefully we'll get more fixes. I don't know, maybe I'm just weird. I'm definitely frustrated by a lot of things though but I guess I'll stick with it. If anything changes, I'll let you guys know.
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# ? May 16, 2013 14:16 |
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I'm on my phone so I can't link it, but a Google engineer just posted on G+ that Messenger will get integrated into Hangouts once they're done adding a method to export data... Whatever that means.
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My favorite wrongly tagged Google Music band picture is for this band i like called Freakeys, who are a progressive metal / progressive rock band from Brazil formed by members of Angra and Hangar
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Wrist Watch posted:Is there an easy way to fix the tags of songs you have uploaded to Play Music? Use the Album Artist tag.
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# ? May 16, 2013 14:31 |
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Thermopyle posted:I'm on my phone so I can't link it, but a Google engineer just posted on G+ that Messenger will get integrated into Hangouts once they're done adding a method to export data... Whatever that means. That shouldn't take long since there is not data to export because NO ONE used G+ Messenger.
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# ? May 16, 2013 14:34 |
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This is typical Google, but their app releases from yesterday are full of half-assery. Search for a song in Music if you signed up for whatever their unlimited music thingy is called. The song results each have the three vertical dots indicating a menu... except they just start playing the song just like pressing anywhere else on the song does. So, to queue a song, add a song to a play list, or whatever else you'd do to a single song you have to start it playing, and then use the menu on the now playing screen. Except, after you do that for one song, no subsequent songs have a menu option to add to playlist. This stuff was pushed out to meet the IO deadline. You'd think that you can just wait for the inevitable updates, except Google isn't exactly renowned for updating all of its official apps...especially Music.
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Thermopyle posted:This is typical Google, but their app releases from yesterday are full of half-assery. They actually confirmed that they wanted to push Maps to meet I/O but they decided to work on it a bit more. The problem is, if they didn't have new shiny toys to give to the Android fanblogs or the fans, we'd get a LOT of complaining about "I/O sucked! Nothing new! I'm moving to Windows Phone!" (seriously, I read that comment somewhere pertaining to no new Nexus 4 LTE for Verizon). The fanblogs would claim "something's wrong" and then the rumor mill would spin even more out of control. They're actually taking their time with Maps, at least. But they pushed the rest to appease the masses. People are still claiming a Nexus 7/4 refresh is coming along with Key Lime Pie.
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# ? May 16, 2013 15:30 |
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I could have sworn I got two updates to Google Play Books yesterday so yeah.
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# ? May 16, 2013 15:32 |
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According to this guy, SMS support is coming soon.
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# ? May 16, 2013 15:37 |
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I use Android and Gmail but I am so glad I don't rely on all this dumb Google poo poo for my daily life. The closest thing is Tasks and even that Im pretty sure I could replace.
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# ? May 16, 2013 15:37 |
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Field Trip just got enabled for a whole bunch of new countries. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nianticproject.scout
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Since we're all talking about music subscription services, I thought I'd mention that I much prefer Rdio over Spotify on Android. Rdio always remembers what song you were last listening to, while the Spotify app seems to forget. Rdio even remembers between the phone app and the web app. So you could start listening to an album on your morning commute, and then when you get to work go to the web app and continue listening.
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