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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I was going to post this in the Daft Punk thread but it is moving too fast and would be slightly off-topic so I decided to take it here. Lots of people there are discussing all the other artists making great house/edm/whatever (sorry I'm not great with these genres) that either didn't make it or that Daft Punk owes a lot of their sound to. Actually some are straight up complaining that Daft Punk fans never bothered to explore these similar styles etc etc. Well I would like to do just that. So could somebody recommend some 'essentials' that might have paved the way for (or are contemporaries of) Homework and Discovery (my favorite two DP albums, like many other people)?

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Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
So first off, I will say, and this is true for every big musician, is that if you're looking for inspirations that helped Daft Punk shape their music, you need to look outside of the house genre. I mean, the duo themselves have said that they're inspired by all sorts of wacky music, like The Beach Boys, Lil' Wayne, Ennio Morricone, pretty much everything. I mean, "electronic music" wouldn't exist if not for Kraftwerk and Perrey and Kingsley, but that sounds nothing like "Daft Punk".

So, I'm going to assume that what you mean is "stuff that sounds like Daft Punk", in which case there's plenty of other stuff out there: The Chemical Brothers, The Avalanches, Justice, C2C, Röyksopp, Parov Stelar, Fatboy Slim.

If this isn't really what you wanted, sorry, but you weren't quite clear enough.

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het
Nov 14, 2002

A dark black past
is my most valued
possession
Next time wait for someone who actually knows what the dude is talking about to reply.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I appreciate the suggestions but yeah that isn't what I was looking for. I was really hoping to PM some of the people whose sentiment I was echoing from the Daft Punk thread (but alas, they all had PM off). People were talking about "those artists/producers who Daft Punk owe their style to" and "producers making Daft Punk-style music before Daft Punk was that just didn't get signed to major labels and thus never penetrated" and stuff along those lines... but I'm not sure exactly what they meant so maybe I should not have made that post. Thanks anyway.

het
Nov 14, 2002

A dark black past
is my most valued
possession

thathonkey posted:

but I'm not sure exactly what they meant so maybe I should not have made that post.
No, it's a perfectly reasonable request to make. I'll defer to people who have a much deeper knowledge of the music in question to give recommendations, but generally speaking I'm assuming it's going to involve seminal house music and its roots in disco/Italo disco/electro-funk.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

thathonkey posted:

I was going to post this in the Daft Punk thread but it is moving too fast and would be slightly off-topic so I decided to take it here. Lots of people there are discussing all the other artists making great house/edm/whatever (sorry I'm not great with these genres) that either didn't make it or that Daft Punk owes a lot of their sound to. Actually some are straight up complaining that Daft Punk fans never bothered to explore these similar styles etc etc. Well I would like to do just that. So could somebody recommend some 'essentials' that might have paved the way for (or are contemporaries of) Homework and Discovery (my favorite two DP albums, like many other people)?

Well both Thomas Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo had their own labels in the late 90s early 2000s, so if you want more stuff that sounds like early daft punk you might enjoy some of their 12"s.

http://www.discogs.com/label/Roul%E9
http://www.discogs.com/label/Crydamoure

There are also two mixes that are good for the house side of their influences:

The Daft Punk essential mix from 1997 showcases some of the early-mid 90's disco influenced house tracks that they drew inspiration from
https://soundcloud.com/edmtunestv/daft-punk-bbc-radio-1-essential-mix-02-03-1997 . A lot of the tracks on that mix are still relatively popular in clubs today like "Gabrielle" and "Disco's Revenge" and some like the track from Kenny Dixon Jr's label KDJ have cult followings.

Then "CK" has made a mix of 88 tracks that he feels were influences on daft punk. This mix has a lot of harder sounding house from dancemania and associated labels, which are also the roots of the phiz favorite genre juke/footwork.

Here's a write up for the initial 44 track version for some context to the mix. http://www.bodytonicmusic.com/podcasts/2011/dec/07/bodytonic-podcast-teachers-house-music-1989-1997/

Here's the new 88 track version: https://soundcloud.com/ck303/theprequel96

Of course in addition to the various house influences, discovery is an album of samples so you might want to check out some of the material they sampled. For a quick selection you might wanna check out http://www.discogs.com/Various-Discovered-A-Collection-Of-Daft-Funk-Samples/release/1137568

Or if you want a taste of the disco scene as experienced in clubs, that eventually transformed into the house scene, you can listen to some live mixes from Larry Levan, Frankie Knuckles, or Ron Hardy. Latter era Ron Hardy mixes are cool because they exhibit some interesting edits of disco songs that are kinda precursors to the disco house that emerged in the 90's in Chicago and elsewhere. http://www.gridface.com/features/ron_hardy_playlists.html

If you feel the need to learn more about the house sound of Chicago, of which Frankie and Ron Hardy were pioneers you can check out this gigantic box set. http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-History-Of-The-House-Sound-Of-Chicago/release/43501

And here's a live set from Larry Levan of the Paradise Garage, the most influential disco dj in NY during the 80's. The "garage" in UK Garage is derived from the Paradise Garage although in a kinda circuitous manner. https://soundcloud.com/mihaidl/larry-levan-paradise-garage-1979.

You also might wanna track down the works of some of the collaborators for Random Access Memory. You are probably familiar with a lot of his songs, but there was a really good Nile Rogers compilation released a few years ago that has some lesser known/unreleased/remixed tracks from Chic and Sister Sledge and company. http://www.discogs.com/Nile-Rodgers-presents-Chic-Organization-The-Box-Set-Vol-1-Savoir-Faire/release/2501209.

The remixes on this compilation are done by Dimitri From Paris, who was also a major influence on Daft Punk by virtue of being the biggest and earliest house radio dj in France. You can check out his disco compilations which are really good (he began djing in the disco era,) or if you want you can hear some of his old radio shows here: http://www.mixesdb.com/w/Category:NRJ_Megamix

Another collaborator, Todd Edwards, is doing this weeks essential mix for the bbc so if you wait a few days you can check that out. He's a producer known for his chopped up vocals who didn't get much attention in the US, but became quite popular overseas and has recently had a resurgence in popularity. His stuff is very influential in UK Garage if you care to listen to that sort of stuff.

A third collaborator, giorgio moroder, I think most people are familiar with. Since you post in the hip hop thread you've probably heard "the shining" in which case you probably recognize this sample, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpi-Kxf2eXg. However, Giorgio Moroder is also emblematic of italo disco, and if you want get a bigger picture of the italo sound, you should definitely check out the two "mixed up in the hague" mixes from I-F. Here's an untracked version you can stream of the first volume. http://www.mixcloud.com/intergalacticfm/i-f-mixed-up-in-the-hague-vol1/

This all might be a bit overwhelming, but I thought it might be useful for other posters in the thread as well.

plogo fucked around with this message at 06:52 on May 15, 2013

This Is the Zodiac
Feb 4, 2003

Any recommendations for somewhat minimal electronic music with a Balearic/Afro-Caribbean/"tropical" feel? Something similar to John Talabot, but without the vocals, or like Matthias Zimmermann, but with less complexity?
Basically, I'm looking for something housey but not really dancey, musically suggestive of relaxing in the sunshine on the beach or by the pool.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

This is perfect. Currently listening to their BBC Essential Mix (which are always great) and loving it. Thanks so much!

fookolt
Mar 13, 2012

Where there is power
There is resistance

Geirskogul posted:

My favorite album in the entire world is the Tron Legacy soundtrack. Sweeping, but still technical, and it thinks highly of itself when appropriate. I am also doing well with Daft Punk's newest album (RAM), but I didn't like too much of Human After All except for the titular track (which I love to death and can listen to on repeat for hours doing something else). Anything like that?

You should try out M83's soundtrack for Oblivion. The movie shares a director with Tron Legacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnYsgZdDHfM

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Stravinsky posted:

Try out Skywave, which had the guitarist from APTBS in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBaB4bjfYGQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Or Ceremony which the other guitarist from Skywave went to form
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZSGEXw4ge4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

More like these please! I especially liked the one from Ceremony.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Reason posted:

I'm looking for more hip hop. Prefer stuff like, Immortal Technique, Dead Prez, Blue Scholars. Stuff that is socially subversive I guess.

Mr Lif, Busdriver, GDP's "Useless Eaters", Sage Francis "A Healthy Distrust", most of The Coup's work. Going back if you want more pro-Black 5%er stuff you can get Brand Nubian and X-Clan and the like as well, but not sure iff that's the same thing you're looking for. Killer Mike also usually throws some stuff in most of his albums, but I wouldn't say it's a "theme" of his work.

Also (similar to the Menace Clan track posted earlier) if you look at a lot of gangsta rap, you can easily read in a politial agenda since it's largely the disenfranchized voice of a social underclass speaking out. I'm thinking here of stuff like early NWA or "Amerikkka's Most Wanted".

karl fungus
May 6, 2011

Baeume sind auch Freunde
Can anyone suggest more bands like Yes? Basically, I'm looking for more progressive rock albums with lengthy songs that have a symphonic feel to them. I also really enjoy more spaced-out sounds as well, like the better albums of Steve Hillage and Lemmy-era Hawkwind.

breaks
May 12, 2001

NotWearingPants posted:

More like these please! I especially liked the one from Ceremony.

You might like The Soft Moon, but they are deeper and have more electronic elements than APTBS or Ceremony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9t8Oex9BpQ

One of those rare bands that's actually better live too, if you like their stuff definitely go see them if they come through your area.

You might also like at least some of Ringo Deathstarr, though they tend to be more typically shoegazey than those bands:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TGkmSm5qqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WY4hrxsF74

Febreeze
Oct 24, 2011

I want to care, butt I dont

karl fungus posted:

Can anyone suggest more bands like Yes? Basically, I'm looking for more progressive rock albums with lengthy songs that have a symphonic feel to them. I also really enjoy more spaced-out sounds as well, like the better albums of Steve Hillage and Lemmy-era Hawkwind.

Steve Hackett (the Guitarist from Genesis) did some solo work that sounds a lot like Yes, Voyage of the Acolyte is pretty much a dead ringer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtN5xvJ-kcY

His Spectral Mornings album isn't quite as close but I think it's still worth a listen, a little more spacey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8_0wJUEC1k

Then of course, there is always the absurd stylings of Emerson Lake and Palmer if you want balls to the wall Prog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j8bSr8RnU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyJBNZ4i4Yc

Invisible Ted
Aug 24, 2011

hhhehehe
So I recently got back to listening to Bad Company, but all it's doing for me is making me want something more bluesy. I really enjoy points in their songs with slow, low, grungy guitar sounds, but that's about as specific as I can get with this. I haven't really delved into the blues genre much, so I suppose what I'm looking for is introductory blues with slow, heavy, grungy guitar sections.

me your dad
Jul 25, 2006

Invisible Ted posted:

So I recently got back to listening to Bad Company, but all it's doing for me is making me want something more bluesy. I really enjoy points in their songs with slow, low, grungy guitar sounds, but that's about as specific as I can get with this. I haven't really delved into the blues genre much, so I suppose what I'm looking for is introductory blues with slow, heavy, grungy guitar sections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqCVmu_Jj_0

Very sludgy, psychedelic blues from Blue Cheer.

And Cream may work for what you seem to be after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ig4IJgRjGU

Both blues-influenced rock, but it may work.

For pure blues, maybe check out some Howlin' Wolf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0aIjyX7vwI

me your dad fucked around with this message at 19:53 on May 17, 2013

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:
Could anyone recommend me some more stuff like Thomas Dolby's The Golden Age Of Wireless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPZHYXgTjr8

and Wang Chung

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-xpJRwIA-Q

I only know Wang Chung from Dance Hall Days and To Live And Die In LA. What album would be a good starting point for stuff like that?

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN

Dissapointed Owl posted:

Could anyone recommend me some more stuff like Thomas Dolby's The Golden Age Of Wireless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPZHYXgTjr8

and Wang Chung

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-xpJRwIA-Q

I only know Wang Chung from Dance Hall Days and To Live And Die In LA. What album would be a good starting point for stuff like that?

A lot of obvious choices here, but I think a more artier-fartier tack might be rewarding for you. Specifically thinking of Wire's A Bell Is a Cup and like mid-period PiL, like Album.

InstantInfidel
Jan 9, 2010

BEST :10bux: I EVER SPENT
I'm in a pretty interesting place right now in terms of what I like. A year ago, I was coming off what was basically a decade-long binge of 70's, 80's, and 90's rock that came about from my dad and I bonding over that kind of music while doing anything we did together. Now, I definitely don't *hate* it, but there's obviously nothing new coming out from Van Halen or ZZ Top. I turned into a techno/electronic/house/synth junkie, but now I want something (and this is the weirdest adjective to describe music) "heavier". I've been binging on Tiesto, Krewella, Deadmau5, Guetta- basically the Ultra Music Festival lineup in a nutshell. The plan is to hit a lot of the big shows this summer, but I want something with really heavy bass and a really strong mid-range to keep me occupied in the mean time. I'm hoping there's something out there that I've just overlooked.

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop
I can't say I know so much about rock, but one album that's continued to surprise me since I was a little kid is Blow By Blow by Jeff Beck. I'm really just wholeheartedly in love with this album. I have some of his other later albums but something about them, maybe their cheesiness, doesn't make them appeal to me. Could anyone that knows about the genre please recommend some more albums by different bands/artists that are comparable?

izationalizer
Jul 2, 2012

I don't know what the hell's in there, but it's weird and pissed off, whatever it is.

Dissapointed Owl posted:

Could anyone recommend me some more stuff like Thomas Dolby's The Golden Age Of Wireless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPZHYXgTjr8

and Wang Chung

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-xpJRwIA-Q

I only know Wang Chung from Dance Hall Days and To Live And Die In LA. What album would be a good starting point for stuff like that?

I might also recommend Fad Gadget:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcQY9mQ02mM

me your dad posted:

For pure blues, maybe check out some Howlin' Wolf:

You really can't go wrong with the Wolf. I particularly like his first two albums.

For something more modern and along similar lines, there's Elmo Williams and Hezekiah Early. It really might be the most poo poo-hot straight-up blues I've ever heard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZvUSXj94C4

izationalizer fucked around with this message at 17:43 on May 20, 2013

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

I can't say I know so much about rock, but one album that's continued to surprise me since I was a little kid is Blow By Blow by Jeff Beck. I'm really just wholeheartedly in love with this album. I have some of his other later albums but something about them, maybe their cheesiness, doesn't make them appeal to me. Could anyone that knows about the genre please recommend some more albums by different bands/artists that are comparable?

Check out John McLaughlin's album The Promise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze0ItL_UoUc

and the Tony Williams album Emergency!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3LEC0T3Fw

If you can deal with the more jazz side of fusion there's a ton of Miles Davis material to check out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTSiNJqq7I

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

Shit Fuck Shit Fuck!

karl fungus posted:

Can anyone suggest more bands like Yes? Basically, I'm looking for more progressive rock albums with lengthy songs that have a symphonic feel to them. I also really enjoy more spaced-out sounds as well, like the better albums of Steve Hillage and Lemmy-era Hawkwind.

King Crimson, any of the albums from "In The Court" to "Red." Helped pioneer the use of the mellotron in prog. The early albums are mostly made up of songs that are long, spaced, and symphonic.

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

ShutteredIn posted:

[John McLaughlin, Tony Williams & Miles Davis YouTubes]

The Promise sounds the most similar and the other two aren't quite like it at all, but I still like them! Thanks!

Anymore suggestions are welcome.

LP0 ON FIRE fucked around with this message at 02:36 on May 22, 2013

Boner Calhoun
Jun 15, 2005

Silence in the studio!
So I've been listening to a lot of the Temptations' psychedelic soul-era records, and I've really been digging these super-long tracks on those albums. Isaac Hayes has some similar stuff, but basically I'm wondering if any '70s soul nerd knows of any other "cinematic" soul-type artists that have really long songs with big orchestration, like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az_A0-AwdEQ

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!
Grimey Drawer
I'd like to hear something that sounds similar to this song:

:nws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H33bQZx4Ig

Not the artist in general, that song specifically.

I like how mean, fast, and fun it is. :)

Free Weedlord
Dec 27, 2006

Not quite as powerful as timelord
I love this track and I have absolutely nothing similar to it, any suggestions?

I guess the genre is glitch dance or something... no clue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yywTlfWhqa8

me your dad
Jul 25, 2006

Synthetic Hermit posted:

I'd like to hear something that sounds similar to this song:

:nws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H33bQZx4Ig

Not the artist in general, that song specifically.

I like how mean, fast, and fun it is. :)

Throwing this out there -

Ministry: Jesus Built My Hotrod

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!
Grimey Drawer

Not bad.

Here's another example of what I'm looking for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6O2YvUBtTE

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

I'm trying to set up a playlist of hardstyle/dubstyle/other dance/club music.

What are some recommended songs? Currently just running off mostly Headhunterz.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Synthetic Hermit posted:

Not bad.

Here's another example of what I'm looking for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6O2YvUBtTE

Antichrist Superstar-era Marilyn Manson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un14J5neyXE

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!
Grimey Drawer

regulargonzalez posted:

Antichrist Superstar-era Marilyn Manson

Well, the style is right, but I don't find it a very good song. The music is too muddy and the vocals are too screechy.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Synthetic Hermit posted:

Well, the style is right, but I don't find it a very good song. The music is too muddy and the vocals are too screechy.

Music for a lot of industrial metal style stuff is going to be kind of fuzzy in general, it's part of the sound by and large. There's a somewhat more radio-friendly version ala Stabbing Westward and Gravity Kills that will sound cleaner
Stabbing Westward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsxaoXHe9Xc
Gravity Kills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUVheOwDM5I

Other possibilities:
KMFDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVgBp5Yu7_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lhfjwESld8

Broken-Era Nine Inch Nails
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeoyOIRIeHs

Filter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ownHbBfPRiY


e: are you looking for more of that 'doom'-y sounding stuff from your Rob Zombie link or the agressive/power feel of that Powerman 5000 link?

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 03:17 on May 25, 2013

Swagulous
May 22, 2013

by Baldo di Gregorio

KittyEmpress posted:

I'm trying to set up a playlist of hardstyle/dubstyle/other dance/club music.

What are some recommended songs? Currently just running off mostly Headhunterz.

You're in luck, I used to listen to pretty much only hardstyle.
Anyways, here are some cool artists/songs (a lot of them have long obnoxious intros that I tend to just skip through):

2 Best Enemies - Phases (Technoboy Romantic Mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arpV7JHTBy0

Technoboy - Next Dimensional World (Qlimax 2008 Anthem)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1-q4MbAQbk

Josh & Wesz - Autumn Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT-36oc0xZE

Bioweapon vs. Toneshifterz - Future of Noize
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPWQA2d_p4M

If this is the type of stuff you're looking for let me know, I know tons and tons of it.
Personal favorites that I listed are Future of Noize and Phases.

Swagulous fucked around with this message at 05:05 on May 26, 2013

Tarnien
Jul 4, 2003
Champion of the World!!!
Can anyone help me assign a genre to this song? http://musicyoucanswimto.bandcamp.com/track/necessary-instrumental
It's somewhere between acoustic and electronic (the electronic parts are in the latter half of the song), being closer to acoustic/instrumental. Looking for similar music for a project, but haven't had any luck with any of the genres I've tried.

slowdave
Jun 18, 2008

I don't know if anyone uses it anymore (prob not) but that sort of stuff was called folktronica in the early 2000s.

Tarnien
Jul 4, 2003
Champion of the World!!!
A good place to start. Thank you!

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!
Grimey Drawer

regulargonzalez posted:

e: are you looking for more of that 'doom'-y sounding stuff from your Rob Zombie link or the agressive/power feel of that Powerman 5000 link?

They both sound pretty similar to me (Rob Zombie & Spyder are related). I guess I prefer Zombie's sound a little more.

All your suggestions are a bit too slow and/or mellow for me. I want something more "extreme".

Sorry I can't be more specific. I'm afraid don't know much about metal sub-genres. :|

izationalizer
Jul 2, 2012

I don't know what the hell's in there, but it's weird and pissed off, whatever it is.

Tarnien posted:

Can anyone help me assign a genre to this song? http://musicyoucanswimto.bandcamp.com/track/necessary-instrumental
It's somewhere between acoustic and electronic (the electronic parts are in the latter half of the song), being closer to acoustic/instrumental. Looking for similar music for a project, but haven't had any luck with any of the genres I've tried.

Not sure what to call the genre. "Glitch folk," maybe?

Either way, two things spring to mind:

The Books: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cx10MrMYB4

The Notwist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukrk5yr3Dy4

e: I guess the video you linked isn't all that "glitchy," strictly speaking. Here's an embarrassingly lame one: "e-folk."

izationalizer fucked around with this message at 13:02 on May 27, 2013

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Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Someone recommend me something similar to:

https://soundcloud.com/starcadian/first-kill
https://soundcloud.com/user6136892/to-protect-and-entertain

upbeat electronic beats, rap, samples etc

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