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Today I realized what a huge mistake I made by not using a warhammer to kill Grigori. Dont' be like me.
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Donnerberg posted:You go there for the fights, the loot and the experience, but you're not really making progress outside of padding your stats. Nothing stays dead. The rooms seem to be randomized, at least to an extent. You can reload a save after entering some of the rooms and there'll be a different group of enemies in there. Difficulty will spike without any real system to it, so you shouldn't force a fight that you're not having fun with. There's always some other chamber to try. If you find it too easy, try to locate the Chamber of Woe and revisit that. I think that's the one with a door directly to an arena where you can get all sorts of bosses, as opposed to the smaller rooms with wolves and harpies and poo poo. The chamber of Fate is pretty fun... you get a chimera, gorechimera, and lich (that spawns hell hounds). It was really fun and challenging doing it right after finishing the main story, but I imagine now that I've spent 10-12 levels at BBI, it'd be a little easier.
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May 20, 2013 00:45
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Yeah, I got to the 90s before I finished the Everfall because it's kind of fun, like how Bitterblack is fun once you know the tricks or are strong enough to meaningfully combat opponents.
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May 20, 2013 00:51
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The toughest one for me was the small room with the gorechimera and like a dozen skeleton sorcerers. Getting zapped over and over was a huge pain, but it's really hard to ignore an angry gorechimera.
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May 20, 2013 01:10
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Man, apparently killing stuff can attract monsters way out of your league in bitterblack, I just got jumped by an ogre with like 8 lifebars, I could not scratch the drat thing. Had to bug out cause my pawns wouldn't stop dying to it even though I told them to run. Least I took down the cockatrice(after I lost my main pawn and a pubbies pawn.)
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May 20, 2013 01:13
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Alteisen posted:Man, apparently killing stuff can attract monsters way out of your league in bitterblack, I just got jumped by an ogre with like 8 lifebars, I could not scratch the drat thing. Had to bug out cause my pawns wouldn't stop dying to it even though I told them to run. Heh, man, that was me a few hours ago... It's an elder ogre, try lightning (ricochet hunter is amazing if it's in a tight space).
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May 20, 2013 01:14
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Like anyone can cast something with that thing jumping around and the legion of saurians.
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May 20, 2013 01:16
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Alteisen posted:Like anyone can cast something with that thing jumping around and the legion of saurians. I'm not too familiar with mage/sorcerer skills, but if you grab a magic archer pawn, look for one with ricochet hunter and hope they use it. It's pretty quick to get off, especially if the ogre is smashing other pawns to pieces. And I think I know exactly where you're talking about with the saurians, that's where I first ran into an elder ogre and left that first fight dead and scratching my head. My pawns were yelling "use lightning" and I didn't realize I had something readily available that would work 
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May 20, 2013 01:22
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Pawns can't be magic archer. If you can maneuver/throw pawns to out of reach places and then keep the ogre distracted, they can get off some spells. You can also try grabbing their face and wailing on it. Frankly my advice is to get a tanky pawn with War Cry or Shield Summon to keep his attention.
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May 20, 2013 01:25
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Lotish posted:Pawns can't be magic archer. Oh crap, you're right, sorry... forgot about that. Then I have no idea, I feel like I'm cheesing my way through BBI as it is, basically finding just the one thing that works for me and I have no idea what other people are doing 
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May 20, 2013 01:27
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Will the game warn me if I am stealing stuff? Or can I just go into a house an pick it up? My pawn certainly doesn't mind doing so.
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May 20, 2013 01:27
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Unlucky7 posted:Will the game warn me if I am stealing stuff? Or can I just go into a house an pick it up? My pawn certainly doesn't mind doing so.
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May 20, 2013 01:29
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Fulmination will pulverize elder ogres if you can give the pawn enough time to cast it. Otherwise they should have enough time to cast Levin, that one has a pretty quick ready time. They tend to spoil Brontide by bunny hopping to avoid attacks, which will dispel the whip. If your character is a male the ogre will focus on you, you can use that to draw it away from your pawns.
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May 20, 2013 01:30
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Samurai Sanders posted:There's only one place in the entire game that taking stuff counts as stealing, and that's the Duke's private treasure vault (you'll be arrested if you try to go in, after the first warning). For everything else, no one cares. Kleptomania ahoy, then!
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May 20, 2013 01:32
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Just hit level 117, BBI is blowing me away. I had to take a break after opening the 2nd shortcut. Those random spawns of creatures after killing a bunch of others are amazing. Took out a room of skeletons and BAM 3 big dogs just tore me apart. The only thing I wished they would do is an option for no helm grapics. Got a kickass helm for my pawn but my god its freaking hideous. If anyone needs a tank pawn add me on PSN: Zwippy. She is set to scather/challenger so she just tears things up! Plus I could use some RC's
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May 20, 2013 01:40
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Thanks to whoever took my mage Cholula out on a run, you decked her out in pretty amazing gear and no longer looks like a nun in a potato sack.
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May 20, 2013 02:19
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Just picked up Dark Arisen this afternoon, and I'm feeling pretty frustrated. I'm at the Everfall for the first time and I'm just hitting a brick wall trying to get back out. The problem, plain and simple, is the AI. It's dumb as a stump, which works fine outside, but they abso-loving-lutely refuse to follow me up the stairs, so my pawns keep dying and I'd really prefer to keep them alive. The giant is still alive because he knocked my main pawn down earlier, so I had to sprint past everything to rescue him. If it were just me against the infinite enemies, I wouldn't be upset but it feels like the game is railroading me into losing my pawns here. I gave it half a dozen whacks before dropping it to Easy Mode, tried another few times and got the giant to like half health before he one-hit KO'd my entire party and I went outside for a cigarette. Am I doing something wrong? I was having a blast being Literally Gatts before this, so I kind of hope that I am missing something really obvious.
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May 20, 2013 02:27
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Is there a barber shop anywhere besides the one in Gran Soren? I want to change my looks and that on is obviously out of the question now that I'm exploring the Everfall.Chard posted:Just picked up Dark Arisen this afternoon, and I'm feeling pretty frustrated. I'm at the Everfall for the first time and I'm just hitting a brick wall trying to get back out. The problem, plain and simple, is the AI. It's dumb as a stump, which works fine outside, but they abso-loving-lutely refuse to follow me up the stairs, so my pawns keep dying and I'd really prefer to keep them alive. The giant is still alive because he knocked my main pawn down earlier, so I had to sprint past everything to rescue him. If it were just me against the infinite enemies, I wouldn't be upset but it feels like the game is railroading me into losing my pawns here. EGSunBro fucked around with this message at 02:32 on May 20, 2013 |
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May 20, 2013 02:29
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Is it just me, or is the framerate in Dark Arisen more "unstable" than normal DD? It seems like when nothing much is going on the framerate jumps up much faster than I expected, but if any action is going on, or any complicated spells happen, I get screen tearing and far slower framerates than what happened in DD (except for the mystic knight cannon+sigil trick). Can I fix this by installing the main disk to my hard drive on top of whatever the second disk installed? This is 360 if it matters.
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May 20, 2013 02:30
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That barber shop just moved to the edge of the field in front of the pawn guild, didn't it?
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May 20, 2013 02:31
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Chard posted:Just picked up Dark Arisen this afternoon, and I'm feeling pretty frustrated. I'm at the Everfall for the first time and I'm just hitting a brick wall trying to get back out. The problem, plain and simple, is the AI. It's dumb as a stump, which works fine outside, but they abso-loving-lutely refuse to follow me up the stairs, so my pawns keep dying and I'd really prefer to keep them alive. The giant is still alive because he knocked my main pawn down earlier, so I had to sprint past everything to rescue him. If it were just me against the infinite enemies, I wouldn't be upset but it feels like the game is railroading me into losing my pawns here. Just book it out, your party should catch up when you zone back into the city. And even if they don't you can grab them, or new ones at the riftstone. And don't worry about any loot they have, it gets dumped into your storage when/if a pawn dies. E: beaten with an edit
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Zwippy posted:Just hit level 117, BBI is blowing me away. I had to take a break after opening the 2nd shortcut. Those random spawns of creatures after killing a bunch of others are amazing. Took out a room of skeletons and BAM 3 big dogs just tore me apart. The only thing I wished they would do is an option for no helm grapics. Got a kickass helm for my pawn but my god its freaking hideous. I finished BBI on my level ~100 assassin last night and just ended up skipping the random spawn minibosses. First one I got was an ogre and it took 15+ minutes to kill the thing, so from that point on I figured they weren't worth the time. I'd also just like to say that Death is a giant motherfucker. It seems next to impossible for him to hit you, but whenever he pops up it's time to say goodbye to your idiot pawns. Losing them all and going solo for a good stretch in your first time through the dungeon is pretty tense. Very Dark Souls. Now I'm up to Daimon on my 69 magic character and I can't even dent the guy. It's pretty ridiculous how little damage I do to him. Tried going down there as a sorc, MA, and MK but none of them could do much of anything. MK in particular was a death sentence since Daimon seems insistent on never, ever attacking anybody but me which makes setting up holy cannons impossible. Everything else was pretty simple up to this point as a Mystic Knight . Guess I just need some more levels and better gear. If anyone wants to take my fighter around somewhere for some RCs and enemy knowledge so she blocks better, I'd appreciate it. GT is NZVargs2.
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May 20, 2013 02:39
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Wow I REALLY wish they had given me some kind of indication that the Everfall was special in that particular way. Thanks for the quick answers. Honestly the only reason I even care about my main pawn is that I spent a bit too long making the most hideous abomination I could muster, and I want him grossing out NPCs forever. Good to know I can just ditch his stupid rear end to the tentacles this one time and we can still be pals.
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May 20, 2013 02:46
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I should make a mage at some point since I stole the Duke's ring, apparently it makes casting time faster.
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May 20, 2013 02:51
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Alteisen posted:Hey let's poke that giant thing in bitterblack that's chained to the wall. Just you wait... I thought i learned my lesson about not touching 3 story dudes chained to walls on that guy. NOPE. I did on 2 though, Christ that battle was tough. My second run through BBI is tough as hell. Was pretty smooth up until you get to that city before daimon... 2 loving dragons, 9000 executioner looking dudes... christ. After finally get through that i kill daimon again only to have a god drat dragon pop out of his god drat chest. My magic archer wasn't doing poo poo against that. gently caress that fight.
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Chard posted:Wow I REALLY wish they had given me some kind of indication that the Everfall was special in that particular way. Thanks for the quick answers. Honestly the only reason I even care about my main pawn is that I spent a bit too long making the most hideous abomination I could muster, and I want him grossing out NPCs forever. Good to know I can just ditch his stupid rear end to the tentacles this one time and we can still be pals. It's important not to worry too much about your pawns. They're just going to be dumb sometimes. Remember, they're emotionless immortal rift-dwellers, and they come right back anytime anything bad happens to them.
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I get that, I do. This guy is just truly ugly and I like him  Not going to worry too much from this point on though, sounds like they are even more disposable than I thought.vvv well poo poo what was I even worrying about? Now I feel dumb. Chard fucked around with this message at 03:04 on May 20, 2013 |
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May 20, 2013 02:56
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Chard posted:I get that, I do. This guy is just truly ugly and I like him Yeah, you can just touch a riftstone whenever your main pawn dies and they'll warp right back in smelling like roses. Don't sweat it.
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May 20, 2013 02:59
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Anyone know of a place to look at armors? The game seems to have thousands of armor permutations and I can mix and match to my heart's content. 
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May 20, 2013 03:24
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bonzaisushi posted:Just you wait... I thought i learned my lesson about not touching 3 story dudes chained to walls on that guy. NOPE. I did on 2 though, Christ that battle was tough. I JUST had this poo poo but with a ranger. My ranger wasn't going to do poo poo poo poo against all those executioners. The thunderwyrm dragon was basically sniping me from across the map. drat that was just ridiculous.
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May 20, 2013 03:26
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zarron posted:I JUST had this poo poo but with a ranger. My ranger wasn't going to do poo poo poo poo against all those executioners. The thunderwyrm dragon was basically sniping me from across the map. drat that was just ridiculous. Ya man, you cant hide anywhere, just gotta keep moving, Richochette shot saved my life on that section, id get a poo poo ton of executioners in a corner and just fire away as much as i could before one of those assholes dragons either slowed me down or hit me with some other random buff. I cant imagine this poo poo on hard mode. If it weren't for buttermonsters pawn id probably have eaten poo poo a lot more. Whoever's is the pawn owner of AMON, props! dude is a badass as well. bonzaisushi fucked around with this message at 04:02 on May 20, 2013 |
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May 20, 2013 03:30
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Alteisen posted:Anyone know of a place to look at armors? The game seems to have thousands of armor permutations and I can mix and match to my heart's content. There's pictures of a lot of them on the wiki, but if you want to look at them in game, just build up a collection in your storage and choose 'change equipment' at an npc that gives you storage access; way more convenient than taking things out to look at them.
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May 20, 2013 03:36
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I just beat BBI for the first time, already starting on the second. According to some people I will hit a ridiculous wall of difficulty at some point?
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May 20, 2013 03:39
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just beat BBI for the first time, already starting on the second. According to some people I will hit a ridiculous wall of difficulty at some point? Not really. You will see a mixture of enemy that weren't in rooms that you have been in before though. In my second run Death liked to spawn a lot more.
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May 20, 2013 03:53
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just beat BBI for the first time, already starting on the second. According to some people I will hit a ridiculous wall of difficulty at some point? The 3rd part or bbi is when it took a big difficulty jump for my level 75 magic archer. Just make sure you are amply stocked with stamina/health potions.
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May 20, 2013 04:03
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bonzaisushi posted:The 3rd part or bbi is when it took a big difficulty jump for my level 75 magic archer. Just make sure you are amply stocked with stamina/health potions.
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May 20, 2013 04:14
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The final stratum (after Dragon Pope) can get pretty hairy. The final boss becomes a damage sponge without top tier weapons or periapt spam too.
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May 20, 2013 04:19
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just beat BBI for the first time, already starting on the second. According to some people I will hit a ridiculous wall of difficulty at some point? Have fun in the city!
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May 20, 2013 04:36
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PS3 Ur-Dragon is in grace period. Some of them have been going long lately so you may still have a chance to get in.
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tooooooo bad posted:PS3 Ur-Dragon is in grace period. Some of them have been going long lately so you may still have a chance to get in. edit: the goon pawns Babycakes and Hulk were with me when I did it, I don't know if they automatically get something for it. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 05:03 on May 20, 2013 |
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