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Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Yeah, there's really nobody like him.

For current artists, I'd say there is someone like Bachalo who is in a similar vein; he does things differently and nobody copies his style.

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Keldroc
Apr 19, 2004

Marketing materials and speculation are not spoilers. Jesus Christ.

Jedit posted:

Honestly, the early Sandman colouring wasn't very good. It suffered badly from being done as four-colour separations. The remastered colouring could have stood to be a closer match in some cases - the page used as an example here being about the most obvious - but mainly it's an improvement.

As someone who would probably call Sandman his favorite comic after 30+ years of reading them, I have to agree. I have a certain amount of nostalgia for the original coloring of the early Sandman issues, but the choices of the recolor really do fit better with the aesthetics of the rest of the series. The gradient stuff is awful, but mainly because, like the original coloring, it doesn't fit the rest of the series properly, so you're kind of trading one downside for another. I do think the more surreal coloring tends to highlight Keith's art better, but I can see why they did what they did if they were going for uniformity of style.

Frankly I think they should have redrawn the entire Kindly Ones arc for the same reason. It's not bad art, but I have never thought it worked for Sandman or that story arc.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Keldroc posted:

Frankly I think they should have redrawn the entire Kindly Ones arc for the same reason. It's not bad art, but I have never thought it worked for Sandman or that story arc.

The art in The Kindly Ones is loving horrible, only made worse by the handful of truly excellent pages that show what Hempel could have made of it if he'd tried. On top of which, it was bookended by what was indisputably the best art on the series: Bryan Talbot on World's End and Michael Zulli on The Wake. It stands out like a cock on a bikini model, and is about as welcome, and it went on for over a loving year in the last major arc of the story.

Keldroc
Apr 19, 2004

Marketing materials and speculation are not spoilers. Jesus Christ.

Jedit posted:

The art in The Kindly Ones is loving horrible, only made worse by the handful of truly excellent pages that show what Hempel could have made of it if he'd tried. On top of which, it was bookended by what was indisputably the best art on the series: Bryan Talbot on World's End and Michael Zulli on The Wake. It stands out like a cock on a bikini model, and is about as welcome, and it went on for over a loving year in the last major arc of the story.

Personally I agree that it's horrible, but I routinely get horrified reactions from people when I say that, so I thought I'd softball it. And you are so right about Talbot and Zulli before and after it. When I read the series I always get extra angry about the Kindly Ones art when I get to The Wake, because why? When you have artists of the caliber that series used for so many years, why did The Kindly Ones look like that? Such a shame.

Edit: For content, and art that is cartoony and simple but awesome, I love this page from Hawkeye #6 (I think):



In part because I just love Hollingsworth's work on the series in general, but also because there's no possible way that page isn't a reference to the classic Data East arcade game Captain America & The Avengers.

Keldroc fucked around with this message at 14:54 on May 19, 2013

7744
Mar 27, 2003

It had no choice. Their defense grid was smashed. We'd won. Taking out Carr then would make no difference. Skynet had to wipe out his entire existence!

Keldroc posted:

Personally I agree that it's horrible, but I routinely get horrified reactions from people when I say that, so I thought I'd softball it. And you are so right about Talbot and Zulli before and after it. When I read the series I always get extra angry about the Kindly Ones art when I get to The Wake, because why? When you have artists of the caliber that series used for so many years, why did The Kindly Ones look like that? Such a shame.

Edit: For content, and art that is cartoony and simple but awesome, I love this page from Hawkeye #6 (I think):



In part because I just love Hollingsworth's work on the series in general, but also because there's no possible way that page isn't a reference to the classic Data East arcade game Captain America & The Avengers.




Ha! I knew that page looked oddly familiar. Thank you for making the connection for me.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Keldroc posted:

Edit: For content, and art that is cartoony and simple but awesome, I love this page from Hawkeye #6 (I think):



In part because I just love Hollingsworth's work on the series in general, but also because there's no possible way that page isn't a reference to the classic Data East arcade game Captain America & The Avengers.



Of course it's a reference, he traced the background. Why would you even comment that there's no way it isn't a reference when he specifically used the game art as reference?

Keldroc
Apr 19, 2004

Marketing materials and speculation are not spoilers. Jesus Christ.

Rhyno posted:

Of course it's a reference, he traced the background. Why would you even comment that there's no way it isn't a reference when he specifically used the game art as reference?

Turn of phrase, hoss, settle down.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
I have seen people who've complained in the past about comic artists posejacking each others' work and the like, what's the difference between that and this?

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
It's an homage?

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 39 hours!
Fallen Rib

Drifter posted:

I have seen people who've complained in the past about comic artists posejacking each others' work and the like, what's the difference between that and this?

One is a homage, the other is tracing hoping no-one will notice. It's kind of like the Kaare Andrew's covers for the Incredible Hulk.



This isn't some artist ripping off Sandeck and claiming it as his own but rather taking the inspiration from the art and adding his own twist to it, still staying faithful to the original. So yes, homage not blatant plagiarism.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Madkal posted:

One is a homage, the other is tracing hoping no-one will notice. It's kind of like the Kaare Andrew's covers for the Incredible Hulk.



This isn't some artist ripping off Sandeck and claiming it as his own but rather taking the inspiration from the art and adding his own twist to it, still staying faithful to the original. So yes, homage not blatant plagiarism.

David Aja did not use the specific background from a video game with the hopes that nobody would notice it. It's an homage.

Adam Strange
Oct 11, 2012

He laughs. The line goes dead.
Yeah, the difference between homage and ripoff is subjective on some level but Quitely doing Miller in that Flex Mentallo cover or Phillips doing Mazzucchelli dong Bob Dylan at the end of Criminal: Last of the Innocent isn't really the same as Greg Land tracing Adi Granov's Iron Man. This is more like the former.

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34





Everything about this bothers me, but that mermaid having a butt makes me irrationally angry.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
What's wrong with that? A Mermaid has a butt. Is there a definitive description of mermaids that implies they don't have butts? What will she sit on? Is it the sexualized/idealized imagery?

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Gatts posted:

What's wrong with that? A Mermaid has a butt. Is there a definitive description of mermaids that implies they don't have butts? What will she sit on? Is it the sexualized/idealized imagery?

A butt is 2 lumps of muscle to control each leg individually. A mermaid should only have one, more connected muscle. The buttcrack specifically shouldn’t be there, at least not so defined. A merbutt should not be a shapely human butt.

Faustoan Bargain
Dec 24, 2009

I'd sell my soul for a pitcher with a power sinker...
Just drawing a mermaid rear end in a top hat probably wouldn't go over well.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Faustoan Bargain posted:

Just drawing a mermaid rear end in a top hat probably wouldn't go over well.

Hah. I think you're forgetting about the people who actually buy comic books.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Faustoan Bargain posted:

Just drawing a mermaid rear end in a top hat probably wouldn't go over well.
Namor, lol.

7744
Mar 27, 2003

It had no choice. Their defense grid was smashed. We'd won. Taking out Carr then would make no difference. Skynet had to wipe out his entire existence!

FMguru posted:

Namor, lol.

IMPERIUS BUTTOCKS!

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

FMguru posted:

Namor, lol.
Most I've laughed in like a week.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

7744 posted:

IMPERIUS BUTTOCKS!

Gluteus Rex.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
I was going to make a caviar joke but...the Namor one was great.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
Someone is forgetting about lori lemaris

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Their waists are almost as small as their necks and probably exactly as small if any of them took a large gulp of water.

socalled
Sep 2, 2011

Yes, but you'll never get it.

Gatts posted:

What's wrong with that? A Mermaid has a butt. Is there a definitive description of mermaids that implies they don't have butts? What will she sit on? Is it the sexualized/idealized imagery?

People are loving serious about mermaid anatomy. But yeah, mermaid butt's clearly only there for sexiness. You don't need to sit in the ocean, man.

Faustoan Bargain
Dec 24, 2009

I'd sell my soul for a pitcher with a power sinker...
I'm as offended as the next guy that somewhere, a nerd might masturbate to something, but I think we're doing that cover far too much credit by not asking what the hell is up with Purple Robe Chick's fingers.

FMguru posted:

Namor, lol.
:golfclap:

Beanpants
Oct 27, 2004

Madrox posted:

A couple panels from Age of Ultron 8:



Is it just me, or does Brandon Peterson think women have tiny heads in relation to their bodies? It might not be so bad if he hadn't given them standard comic book giant breasts though.

It's an artifact of whatever Maya models he draws on top of. The depth of field on that stuff can lead to things like stretched proportions if not properly setup, which requires a subtle touch.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007




I just saw this cover posted as a preview, and couldn't stop staring at it. It would be a quicker list to just list what they drew right. That list might also be empty.

I know Deadpool's a comedy comic, but I can't tell if it was intentionally terrible, or this was an honest attempt.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

IUG posted:



I just saw this cover posted as a preview, and couldn't stop staring at it. It would be a quicker list to just list what they drew right. That list might also be empty.

I know Deadpool's a comedy comic, but I can't tell if it was intentionally terrible, or this was an honest attempt.

Luke Cage's face at least would be on that list.
I don't think it's that bad, they just seem to have emphasised the kineticism of the poses over anatomical accuracy, which I'm fine with.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Hey, is the thread title actually a rule or just a suggestion? Because there's a Kickstarter ya'll should know about.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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NmareBfly posted:

Hey, is the thread title actually a rule or just a suggestion? Because there's a Kickstarter ya'll should know about.

There's a Kickstarter to make Liefeld stop drawing? I'm in.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

IUG posted:

I know Deadpool's a comedy comic, but I can't tell if it was intentionally terrible, or this was an honest attempt.
I have absolutely no problem with this cover at all.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


That cover looks like dog poo poo, y'all are blind.

7744
Mar 27, 2003

It had no choice. Their defense grid was smashed. We'd won. Taking out Carr then would make no difference. Skynet had to wipe out his entire existence!
gently caress you, Tradd Moore rules. He always draws exaggerated kinetic art like that.

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

7744 posted:

gently caress you, Tradd Moore rules. He always draws exaggerated kinetic art like that.


I like the foreground kick. But those faces. :stare: Label it kinetic if you like, its still horrible.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.
The new Marvel Heroes action RPG has a ton of original splash screens. Most of them are pretty generic, but one in particular caught my eye:



Love it. It even manages to make the classic Wanda costume look good. Anyone recognize the artist?

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Bombadilillo posted:

I like the foreground kick. But those faces. :stare: Label it kinetic if you like, its still horrible.

Say whaaaaat, the faces are the best part. Daredevil's disappointed rather than scared Macaulay Culkin face is amazing.

Senor Candle
Nov 5, 2008
It's like a style composed completely of animation smears.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Ruin Completely posted:

Say whaaaaat, the faces are the best part. Daredevil's disappointed rather than scared Macaulay Culkin face is amazing.

I was thinking startled and disoriented rather than disappointed.

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The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

7744 posted:

gently caress you, Tradd Moore rules. He always draws exaggerated kinetic art like that.



Those pencils are stunning.

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