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Zat posted:Well my personal opinion is no, don't. The blu-rays are fine, unless you really find something truly unbearable in those screenshots, which I for one certainly don't. I think the films look pretty great on blu-ray. The best thing is now you can truly see all the little details in the sets, which the films are full of. Yeah to be honest, the vast majority of times I hear that a blu-ray isn't that good the general consensus is "They could have done a better job on it, but this is the best it's ever looked on video". The only exceptions I've found to this are the releases that are notorious for how bad they are (like Predator).
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Nothing is ever black and white. On one end of the scale you have certain AVSForum sperglords nitpicking about every single frame and thinking that perfectly good Blu-Rays like 'The Dark Knight' are on par with Predator, and on the other end you have Predator, Patton, etc. Now keep in mind that even at that end of the scale, there are people that truly think discs like Predator look good. BTTF doesn't always look bad, but when it does, the waxy people and harsh sharpening both drives me crazy and reminds me to the first release of "Gladiator" (a disc that, along with Patton, also received positive marks from from high profile sites like blu-ray.com or DVDBeaver). If you/your equipment are particularly susceptible to it, you are, if you're not, you're not. Is it better than DVD? Absolutely. But the problem is, it isn't the best it's looked, even in the home -- if you have a PVRed copy of a good HDTV airing -- and while you're spending money on what may not be a travesty but happens to be a fairly substandard Blu-Ray, there are unofficial  releases like the HDTV/Blu-Ray hybrid that looks better.As I said, if it doesn't bother you, go for it. There are very few truly unequivocal "do not buy this" releases. But you should be able to recognise that this:  is both slightly "off" in apperance, and a milder version of what is considered a travesty:  frumpsnake fucked around with this message at 10:10 on May 21, 2013 |
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frumpsnake posted:The short answer is that while not Predator bad, they have quite a lot of DNR and EE/artificial sharpening applied. Personally I wouldn't buy them unless they were quite cheap. You can get the UK Import version - only $25.28. I have it, and it plays in my 2009 Samsung BD player just fine.
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frumpsnake posted:Check out some of the HDTV vs Bluray screenshots for an example of what's "wrong" with them. If it doesn't bother you, go for it I guess. So, what's wrong with it is that it looks better? It seems like Bluray has some of the same poo poo that goes on in audiophile circles. There is a website that is dedicated to collected the dynamic range readings from CDs, and there are people who say "Oh, this CD only has a DR rating of 9, it must sound like crap compared to my old CD which has a DR rating of 12!" Because the HDTV rip is "grainier," that must mean it's worse. But comparing the BD shots with the HDTV shots, I have to say that the BD shots have more detail and just look better.
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The Blu-rays have been DNR'd which removes details, it's as simple as that really
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The fact that you can't tell the difference between 'more detail' and 'edge enhancement' does not mean it is anything like crazy batshit audiophile discussions. It's not even directly related to the level of grain removed by DNR, it's just that you need to obliterate the grain to enhance the edges, otherwise you end up 'enhancing' the whole picture rather than just the important edges. Take these two for instance: http://www.imagebam.com/image/3c00de103448702 http://www.imagebam.com/image/be1cc1103448339 If you think the second one is more detailed than the first -- and you can't notice the artifacting around the lamps or large JCPenny sign, or the white halos around the text on the truck that's merely darker, congratulations. That's why they apply edge enhancement to begin with. But what they're essentially doing is a more advanced version of something like this:  Again, they're not disasters (BTTF2 fares the worst IMO) -- they're certainly better than the DVDs -- but if you're susceptible to EE/DNR and/or don't have a decent HDTV copy and/or are against paying for substandard work (considering their stature) I wouldn't buy them. frumpsnake fucked around with this message at 05:54 on May 23, 2013 |
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edit: ^^^yeah, what he said.Cemetry Gator posted:But comparing the BD shots with the HDTV shots, I have to say that the BD shots have more detail and just look better. Check out the closeup shot of Marty standing in front of the clock tower. Notice how there's a black outline around his face and shoulder in the BR but not in the HDTV version? That's halos from the sharpening filter they used after scrubbing away the grain with DNR. So there isn't really any more detail in the BR, just the facade of extra detail provided by filters. Not that the HDTV version is pristine or anything, but I can see the big problems with the BR and I don't even like BTTF.
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City Slickers is down to $4.28 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00538LQ8O...8D2VJY6RFSKGKW5
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On that BTTF 2 comparison... that shot is an effects shot with "different" film grain than surrounding shots. Universal tends to homogenize film grain on a lot of releases. I love what Disney did with Who Framed Roger Rabbit by comparison. They left the film grain alone, but eradicated all the printed in dirt and scratches in the effects shots. I'm very much looking forward to seeing how they handle Mary Poppins, which is another film that suffers from the way the effects were done (heavy use of dupes and opticals).
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$4.99 each Chitty Chitty Bang Bang http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VS0CXS...3N5S0DCX4ND3C55 Valkyrie http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004TJ1H0A...V1RR0EK7X2AFFMA Sleeping With The Enemy http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RQDOEC...4H1ZSTTH9378V5P
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Shout! Factory confirmed they're working on special editions of Psycho II, Psycho III, and The Shadow (1994).
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I didn't see if this news was posted, forgive me if it was. http://www.toonzone.net/2013/05/heavy-traffic-blu-ray-coming-july-16-2013/  I'm very excited for this release. Shout Factory's site says it's a special edition, so hopefully we'll get some special features to go along with it.
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Hopefully they get to releasing Coonskin if that goes well.
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I never seen any Bakshi, but I know he obviously was a rather influential animator. And if done right, animation looks absolutely beautiful on blu-ray (my disc of Akira is a demo disc just because it sounds like a dream and it looks amazing). What are the best films to start with?
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Cemetry Gator posted:I never seen any Bakshi, but I know he obviously was a rather influential animator. And if done right, animation looks absolutely beautiful on blu-ray (my disc of Akira is a demo disc just because it sounds like a dream and it looks amazing). What are the best films to start with? I love his Lord of the Rings movie to death, but it's a very love it or hate it film. I've not seen much of his other stuff so I can't recommend much. Give it a shot though, you might like it, and in my weird opinion. It feels more like the books.
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Egbert Souse posted:Shout! Factory confirmed they're working on special editions of Psycho II, Psycho III, and The Shadow (1994). I want these guys to own the rights to all the movies. Loved The Shadow as a 13-year-old. Maybe it won't hold up so well now, but at least there'll be a widescreen version of it.
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Cemetry Gator posted:I never seen any Bakshi, but I know he obviously was a rather influential animator. And if done right, animation looks absolutely beautiful on blu-ray (my disc of Akira is a demo disc just because it sounds like a dream and it looks amazing). What are the best films to start with? He only made nine films. Fritz the Cat and Wizards are the obvious jumping on points. Lord of the Rings too, if you don't mind only getting the first half of the story and can ignore that it was released with some of the Rotoscoping incomplete.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I want these guys to own the rights to all the movies. It hasn't aged that greatly, but it's better than people give it credit for and the look of the film is astounding. If nothing else it's worth it for the visuals. Plus Shout Factory are basically just the best right now.
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This may be the wrong thread but I checked the OP and it talked about which BR player to get so I am giving this thread a shot. We had a Samsung player and the DVD portion went out (could play BR but not DVDs). We then purchased another Samsung with wifi so we could watch Netflix, etc. Now this player keeps locking up and long loading/buffering of movies. My brother told me that a PS3 would be even better for all of that. I do not really play games though. My question is: Is there a retailer or bundle set up that sells a PS3 just for BR/netflix etc viewing purposes? I would really only need a remote and wifi capabilities.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:This may be the wrong thread but I checked the OP and it talked about which BR player to get so I am giving this thread a shot. The 'PS3 is the best blu-ray player' advice is years old now. There are players that are better and have a lot of the functions of the PS3 save for video games (wifi, media server, Netflix, etc.). My advice is to just get a BR player that isn't from Samsung considering your two previous players screwed up.
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Do we need to get a "smart" BR player or are there any that let you choose which services you want? Also, is there any that let you go to a website to watch a flash style video?
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Looney Tunes Platinum Collection Vol. 2 is only $17.99 at BestBuy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Looney-...2015&id=2575155 FYI, this set includes a lot of essential cartoons such as A Wild Hare (first "official" Bugs cartoon), Ali Baba Bunny, Porky in Wackyland, Book Revue, all three of the Bugs-Daffy-Elmer cartoons, Russian Rhapsody, and a bunch of other interesting ones. There's also a bonus disc with a bunch of Tex Avery, Private Snafu, and early 1930s shorts.
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DrVenkman posted:It hasn't aged that greatly, but it's better than people give it credit for and the look of the film is astounding. If nothing else it's worth it for the visuals. I'm honestly curious as to what their business model is. How are they making a profit off of some of these titles? I'm really glad to have a Blu Ray of Futureworld but I'm also really curious as to how that happened when the movie skipped the DVD generation altogether.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Do we need to get a "smart" BR player or are there any that let you choose which services you want? Also, is there any that let you go to a website to watch a flash style video? I can't really answer this because I don't know and haven't researched into these kinds of things much. When I have looked for a BR player in the past all I care about is 1) wi-fi, 2) media streaming, 3) mkv playback since I rip a lot of my DVDs/BRs in that format. I intend to buy a modded region-free blu-ray player in the future, and for now my eyes are set on getting an LG player. You should look around and see what features the different models offer.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Do we need to get a "smart" BR player or are there any that let you choose which services you want? Also, is there any that let you go to a website to watch a flash style video? I like Panasonic's BR players--you can get one with wifi, etc. for under $100 these days. None of the smart BR players really let you choose your services, but the Panasonic player has all the major ones including Netflix, Hulu, Amazon video, and YouTube. I've never seen a smart player with a web browser or Flash player unfortunately. Nice roundup of players is here: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-blu-ray-player-panasonic-dmp-bdt22/
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Egbert Souse posted:Shout! Factory confirmed they're working on special editions of Psycho II, Psycho III, and The Shadow (1994). Really? Odd that they're releasing an SE of The Shadow when Universal is releasing it on BD on June 4. How could they get the rights?
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Hatter106 posted:Really? Odd that they're releasing an SE of The Shadow when Universal is releasing it on BD on June 4. How could they get the rights? Universal put out blah editions of Brazil, Dazed and Confused, and The Game right before Criterion editions. Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 07:18 on May 27, 2013 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm honestly curious as to what their business model is. How are they making a profit off of some of these titles? I'm really glad to have a Blu Ray of Futureworld but I'm also really curious as to how that happened when the movie skipped the DVD generation altogether. I have no idea. Looking at their website though they put out a poo poo load of kids stuff, particularly the ever-popular My Little Pony so maybe that helps them out. Maybe putting out stuff that other companies think won't sell works to their benefit.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm honestly curious as to what their business model is. How are they making a profit off of some of these titles? I'm really glad to have a Blu Ray of Futureworld but I'm also really curious as to how that happened when the movie skipped the DVD generation altogether. Realistic sales expectations, small staff, focused product. The company isn't being strangled by a bunch of shareholders who honestly expect Futureworld on bluray to make them all millions, so they can just keep the print runs relatively low, license things for cheap that they know have a cult audience, turn a small profit, keep the lights on and keep on truckin'. When you look at Shout Factory's catalog they're very savvy about what will actually sell, given the audience they're going for, versus what won't. Nearly everything they've picked up seems like "yeah, OK, that has a cult audience that will buy at least a couple thousand copies and turn you a small profit".
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Here's something strange. Looks like Ishtar is finally getting a release from Sony on 8/6/2013 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Ishtar---Widescreen-AC3-Dolby---Blu-ray-Disc/1606139.p?id=58658 Strange considering it was announced in 2010 and indefinitely delayed in 2011.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Here's something strange. Looks like Ishtar is finally getting a release from Sony on 8/6/2013 Awesome, been waiting for this one for a while. Not a great movie, but there's some really funny stuff in it. Undeserving of the hate it got.
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I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but Ridley Scott's director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven is only $10 on Amazon. I just watched it and it is stunning. I personally love long films and this is truly an epic. The film is expanded to over three hours long and has multiple plotlines that all deliver. The cinematography is beautiful and all the acting (except Bloom's) is phenomenal. If you like historical(kinda) epics, then I highly recommend picking up this bluray. Not much in the way of special features, but it has an amazing film that you didn't get to see if you watched the theatrical version. http://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Heaven-Directors-Cut-Blu-ray/dp/B000ICLRIE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1369870160&sr=8-2&keywords=kingdom+of+heaven
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Chichevache posted:I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but Ridley Scott's director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven is only $10 on Amazon. I just watched it and it is stunning. I personally love long films and this is truly an epic. The film is expanded to over three hours long and has multiple plotlines that all deliver. The cinematography is beautiful and all the acting (except Bloom's) is phenomenal. If you like historical(kinda) epics, then I highly recommend picking up this bluray. Not much in the way of special features, but it has an amazing film that you didn't get to see if you watched the theatrical version. If you dig that, be sure to get the director's cut of Troy. It's actually a pretty good epic. They add 30 minutes back to the movie, used a more traditional score, hotter color scheme, much more violence, more nudity. It's cheap but it's been cheaper so you would probably be better off renting or buying a used copy for now.
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Awesome! I'll check that out. I loved the theatrical Troy so more of it can only be better. I also just picked up the director's cut Bluray of Alexander. I haven't watched it yet, but how can you say no to a $7 bluray at a used bookstore?
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DrVenkman posted:Plus Shout Factory are basically just the best right now. I wish they were releasing stuff in the UK, or at least region free, I really want their They Live! The equivalent in the UK is Arrow, and they're really great, just got the steel book of Blow Out and it's great
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Synapse announced Demons and Demons 2 earlier this year. Yesterday, at their website, they posted that they are releasing them in limited steelbooks, 3000 copies only, that's it, no plans currently for standard releases. With shipping, each disc comes to almost $47. Kinda bummed, I hate that Synapse is taking the Twilight Time route. $47 is just too much money for those movies, no matter how good I think they are. More details here: http://synapse-films.com/news/demons-demons-2-steelbooks-coming-in-2013/
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ultraviolence123 posted:With shipping, each disc comes to almost $47. Street Trash on Blu for $24.95 however is a steal.
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caligulamprey posted:What a bummer. I really wish I liked Street Trash more than I did 
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Indiana Jones: The Complete Collection is the deal of the day over at Amazon. $38.99 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NQRE9Q...N9NV3P5BCM2N2X4
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