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What the gently caress is Newegg doing to those drives that so many are bad out of the box? 
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May 18, 2013 17:03
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On second look at the serial #'s it's actually one of the drives I bought from Amazon, but still  Gonna power down and file an RMA w/ WD later today once ZFS finishes this stupid scrub. code:code:yaaaaaaay  smartctl -a /dev/da0 for giggles: code:
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May 18, 2013 17:06
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Moxie Omen posted:2875 raw_read_error_rate, that's bad, right? code:
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May 18, 2013 17:12
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Nah these are your bad ones: Ahhh, good to know. Thank you based sex parrot.
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May 18, 2013 17:21
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:What the gently caress is Newegg doing to those drives that so many are bad out of the box?
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May 18, 2013 17:23
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Combat Pretzel posted:WD disks park their heads off platter, so there shouldn't be anything that could happen when off.
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May 18, 2013 17:28
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Fwiw, when I bought my Reds on Amazon, they came shipped in individual boxes, packed in plastic containers/shells inside the boxes, and the individual boxes were in a big box filled tight with packing paper and bubble wrap. Newegg seems to just toss their OEM drives in a box with paper, and they're packaged in a static bag. Maybe that accounts for the difference? I've had mine now for 6 months with no issues at all, 5x2TB in a raidz1.
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May 18, 2013 21:07
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kill your idols posted:Cool thanks. I have a Samsung 840 (non-pro) now as my boot drive, but it seems to be a waste of space for just the OS install and some packages. Yeah I saw those newer reviews complaining about dead drives, hopefully just a vocal minority at least it's a well received drive in the ssd megathread too. And yeah, when we ordered our Reds from CDW they all came in individual boxes inside a much larger box similar to Amazon. The two smaller ones from newegg we got awhile ago came in static bags and bubble wrap.
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May 18, 2013 21:44
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With all the horror stories, I refuse to buy anything that spins from Newegg. I'm lucky enough to be 5 minutes from the nearest MicroCenter. If they are out, Amazon is my second choice. Prime shipping is amazing. I picked up a AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 to have some Sata 3 ports. What you goons think: 6 drive RaidZ2, Raidz1, or 3 sets of vdev mirrors?
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May 18, 2013 23:45
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I've had 9 reds running for about a year now in the harshest environment possible, and the only issue I had was when a retard thought rocking a NAS with his foot was a good idea and it killed a drive. Of course they were all from Amazon though 
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May 19, 2013 02:32
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NAS4Free posted:
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May 19, 2013 02:53
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kill your idols posted:With all the horror stories, I refuse to buy anything that spins from Newegg. I'm lucky enough to be 5 minutes from the nearest MicroCenter. If they are out, Amazon is my second choice. Prime shipping is amazing. I definitely wouldn't use Raidz1 with an even number of disks. If you want good enough redundancy and scads of disk then stick with Raidz2, but I am fairly sure 3x2 vdev mirrors will give better read performance (I think, not an expert) and redundancy but you lose more disk space. So it'll depend what your priorities are really!
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May 19, 2013 18:15
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I got two reds off of Amazon and they're fine. I've ordered only one or two from Newegg but have ordered from basically anyone else. Got like 4 WD20EARS drives from Dell a few years ago when they hit about $100 each then. I think WD is going to have to send a representative to Newegg warehouses to determine wtf they're doing to them eventually.
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May 19, 2013 18:42
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Any recommendations on a cheapish 2-4 TB NAS that I can run Time Machine backups to?
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May 20, 2013 02:27
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Silver95280 posted:Any recommendations on a cheapish 2-4 TB NAS that I can run Time Machine backups to? Synology DS212j or DS112j and WD Red's. Should come under $400 shipped from Amazon for the 1-Bay unit. I've had the DS112j, DS212j, and DS713+; all have been great pieces of hardware. The GUI is straight forward and set and forget. HOWTO: http://www.synology.com/us/solutions/backup/time_machine/time_machine.php
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May 20, 2013 04:05
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:That's what I don't understand. I've handled hundreds of Reds over the last year and never seen failure rates like what people are getting here. I honestly believe that the Reds are the best drive WD has put out in years. It's just alarming to see so many issues here. It's probably confirmation bias here. Between the Reds my friends and I have gotten, I know at least 16 that WEREN'T DOA.
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May 20, 2013 04:08
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kill your idols posted:Synology DS212j or DS112j and WD Red's. Should come under $400 shipped from Amazon for the 1-Bay unit. I've had the DS112j, DS212j, and DS713+; all have been great pieces of hardware. The GUI is straight forward and set and forget. Such a solid unit. Someone asked me to set up a "server" for them, and I went with a DS212j and a couple 3TB reds for them. After using a few other nas appliances in the past, the Synology unit was worlds ahead in all aspects. Rolling your own seems to be the popular option in this thread, but for nas appliances, Synology is amazing. Great balance of ease of use and tons of features.
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May 20, 2013 16:53
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The synology web interface really is something, it's a whole different world when compared to iomega etc.
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May 20, 2013 19:32
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Civil posted:Synology is amazing. Great balance of ease of use and tons of features. I like the fact they offer a demo of the web interface on their site. Geting to play with it before buying is a major plus. I really would like to see all the role-your-own options offer something similar. They could just get a VM up and running somewhere on their servers and allow demo access. My HBA is on a UPS truck today for delivery. I think im going to go 2 raidz vdevs of 4 disks each. I lose 2 drives of space as with raidz2 but might gain some performance with the mirror/stripping. edit: Installing Ringtail now.. Oh the smell of new hardware. 
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May 20, 2013 20:16
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I have to chime in on synology. I had a 15xx+, it was drat amazing, of course until it started randomly rebooting from what looked like a power issue. I then broke down and bought 7 drives and put them into 2 supermicro 5 slot bays and loaded up freenas via usb on a poo poo computer, I now have a raid z3 of my dreams backed up to a n54l 5 disk raid z1 and 2 offsite 2tb greens
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May 20, 2013 20:23
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tarepanda posted:It's probably confirmation bias here. Between the Reds my friends and I have gotten, I know at least 16 that WEREN'T DOA. Did they come from Newegg?
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May 21, 2013 21:59
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Did they come from Newegg? Only two of them did, so I guess if you're specifically looking at Newegg it's not really significant at all.
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May 22, 2013 00:47
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I was thinking of buying an external HD enclosure, something like this: http://www.amazon.es/Sharkoon-8-BAY-RAID-BOX-4044951012916/dp/B008ENU0XM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369133924&sr=8-1&keywords=sharkoon+8-bay http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharkoon-St...=sharkoon+5-bay It's basically a NAS without the network part. (I already have 3 NAS) - However I don't know if there are many alternatives to this - I also have some HD docks but this would allow me an extra 5 or 8 HDs to be connected via USB3.0 - I don't really plan to do a RAID right now so alternatives that don't do RAID are ok as well. Anyone have any experience with these devices? Anywhere I can find it cheaper (EU)? Thanks!
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May 22, 2013 10:00
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I have a 2TB HD in my old desktop that I used as a shared network drive for all of our laptops on stuff (home network). we just bought another laptop which leaves no one using the desktop anymore, so I may get rid of it, but I want to keep the drive networked since it has movies, music, backups, etc would I need anything more than something like these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002MUGUFK/ref=oh_details_o01_s01_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-WNDR3...ds=netgear+n600
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May 22, 2013 15:54
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Another thing I'm not enjoying so far: FreeNAS just straight up dropping drives at the device level and ZFS being like 'lol zpool status shows everything online!!! just dandy!!!!'
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May 22, 2013 16:25
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It seems like the new HP Microserver G8 is coming out in a short while. It's Intel based and seems to support ECC ram. Don't know the Max but 32GB would be awesome. The chipset is supposed to support 32GB, but they might cripple it artificially like they did with the SATA ports in the old one. Can't find a picture online, found it through Facebook of all places. It looks pretty good to be honest.
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May 22, 2013 17:16
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Moxie Omen posted:Another thing I'm not enjoying so far: FreeNAS just straight up dropping drives at the device level and ZFS being like 'lol zpool status shows everything online!!! just dandy!!!!' I'm loving how on my M1015 and Solaris ZFS can't find my disks if I move them to different ports. If I want to move drives around I have to export and import the pool.
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May 22, 2013 17:19
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FISHMANPET posted:I'm loving how on my M1015 and Solaris ZFS can't find my disks if I move them to different ports. If I want to move drives around I have to export and import the pool. File a bug against whichever distro you're using (or more likely, Illumos itself). ZFS explicitly should not have that problem.
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May 22, 2013 17:24
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evol262 posted:File a bug against whichever distro you're using (or more likely, Illumos itself). ZFS explicitly should not have that problem. This is Solaris 11, so... I think it has something to do with the way the driver assigns disk IDs. Instead of cXtYd0 I've got c0t50014EE2B2CB594Ed0.
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May 22, 2013 17:29
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FISHMANPET posted:This is Solaris 11, so... Which shouldn't matter. ZFS is supposed to record which pool it belongs to in the superblock. It's been there since the beginning, when Sun had their "look at us plug and unplug USB drives into a 48 port hub willy-nilly and ZFS never breaks" Youtube video. If changing the path in /dev/rdsk breaks it, it's a ZFS bug (c0t5fdklsafjlkdajfklajlfjsadlfdasl is normal multipath disk assigning, so your bug would also crop up if a FC/iSCSI path dropped or changed). ZFS doesn't care. File a bug if you have a Oracle support contract.
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May 22, 2013 19:00
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:It seems like the new HP Microserver G8 is coming out in a short while. Poor AMD, they can't ever get a break when anything good's happening for them.
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May 22, 2013 20:06
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necrobobsledder posted:The G-series servers aren't really Microservers though is the thing - they're using mainline Xeons like the E3-1230/1235 rather than the low-TDP models. A new HP Microserver on Intel hardware would probably be based on an E3-1220L probably which will drive up power consumption over the current AMD-based Microservers but with a lot more possibilities like transcoding and better ZFS performance. At 20w TDP it should still kick the AMDs in the market segment in the pants. They're hardly some one-off for Intel either, they're part of Intel's microserver strategy http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/xeon/xeon-processor-e3-family/micro-server-resources.html A real Intel microserver in the same vein as the Nxx series would probably be based on the new Silvermont atoms which support XOR and AES offloading as well as VTx and ECC. An AMD counter would probably be Jaguar based with a comparable feature set but with an unknown (probably higher?) power consumption.
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May 22, 2013 21:00
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Civil posted:Rolling your own seems to be the popular option in this thread, but for nas appliances, Synology is amazing. Great balance of ease of use and tons of features. I'm looking at a 12 drive system and building my own would cost around $500 (not including disks). If I picked up say a DS1812+ and a DX513 I'd be at almost three times the cost.
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May 22, 2013 23:10
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LastCaress posted:I was thinking of buying an external HD enclosure, something like this: Something like this? They're cheaper here in the US, but I'm not sure about over there. http://www.amazon.com/Sans-Digital-...=sans+digital+8 I've been considering one of these, and consolidating my NAS machine into a smaller case and using the Sans Digital towers as expansion chassis. They've got a 5 bay USB/eSATA version, as well as an 8-bay SAS version. My other choice is a Norco case, but it depends on how I can setup the network closet at our new house. Currently I'm limping along with 8 HDDs crammed in a midtower chassis with a pair of SATA controller cards, but airflow and cooling are lacking.
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May 23, 2013 01:50
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:It seems like the new HP Microserver G8 is coming out in a short while. Here's what I found http://blog.themonsta.id.au/hp-proliant-g8-microservers-leaked/  
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May 23, 2013 04:18
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That's the one, it looks pretty good. 32GB of RAM would be awesome if It's supported.
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May 23, 2013 05:39
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PitViper posted:Something like this? They're cheaper here in the US, but I'm not sure about over there. Yep, that's the type of thing I'm looking for! I'm going to compare prices with the Sharkoon and I'm still undecided on 5 vs 8 bays.
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May 23, 2013 10:52
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Matrox G200 video? WTF? Matrox is still around? How old is that chip anyways? Why not just use the integrated intel graphics?
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May 23, 2013 14:39
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Goon Matchmaker posted:Matrox G200 video? WTF? Matrox is still around? How old is that chip anyways? Why not just use the integrated intel graphics? Probably part of the ilo hardware.
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Yeah for whatever reason I still see Matrox being used in server motherboards quite a bit.
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