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Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
tried chopping up a miles davis track
https://soundcloud.com/winemouth/i-stil

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ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
Everyone here is really good.

I have a bunch of stuff on my hard drive I should finish but instead I hosed around and made this tonight: https://soundcloud.com/seesub-1/where-you-at

SHOPPA 4 LYFE
Jun 1, 2008

Remember
That on that day, at that hour, I shall lift my arms
And my roots will set off to seek another land
Let's go to space guys

https://soundcloud.com/majinjuu/saturn

:420:

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
I loving suck at making bass lines. Like if I'm not using a real bassy kick like an 808 or just a sample with a ton of low end I'll try to sample an upright bass or something but it always sounds like poo poo. Then I try to write one in with a sub-bass soft synth and that sounds like poo poo. Rinse repeat.

e: ^That's real nice.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
new new
https://soundcloud.com/winemouth/like-honey

Shovelbearer
Oct 11, 2003
Paragon of Lexicon

I like how psychedelic it is, and I like those mid-range synth stabs that kind of sound like distorted 808 cowbells. The bassline isn't as bad as I was preparing for based on your previous post... maybe a little less release time on the sidechain compression would give it a little more definition

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
think this an improvement over the trash I normally put out
https://soundcloud.com/winemouth/cambridge-grime

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

Thoogsby posted:

think this an improvement over the trash I normally put out
https://soundcloud.com/winemouth/cambridge-grime

Jeez you just don't stop.

I still haven't worked out my aesthetic, just making beats... working on a couple different EPs right now with some rappers: https://soundcloud.com/seesub-1/call-me

I feel like consciously aiming for a particular aesthetic is missing the point, or maybe not? Or I'm overthinking it, haha. I feel like the unique individual aesthetic can come from just creating enough poo poo and naturally developing.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.

ashgromnies posted:

Jeez you just don't stop.

I still haven't worked out my aesthetic, just making beats... working on a couple different EPs right now with some rappers: https://soundcloud.com/seesub-1/call-me

I feel like consciously aiming for a particular aesthetic is missing the point, or maybe not? Or I'm overthinking it, haha. I feel like the unique individual aesthetic can come from just creating enough poo poo and naturally developing.

That beat's really nice until :54 and that bass comes in and then it's un-listenable, I'm not being mean but it's hitting some weird frequency that sounds like a dog whistle or something.

And yeah I've been making so much poo poo because I just graduated school and I don't start my real job until mid-june. Trying to grind out my Malcom Gladwell 10k hours. Also, drugs.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

Thoogsby posted:

That beat's really nice until :54 and that bass comes in and then it's un-listenable, I'm not being mean but it's hitting some weird frequency that sounds like a dog whistle or something.

And yeah I've been making so much poo poo because I just graduated school and I don't start my real job until mid-june. Trying to grind out my Malcom Gladwell 10k hours. Also, drugs.

Hmm I'm not hearing it but I only have headphones to listen to it on at the moment. It's a high frequency you're hearing though? I can low pass it or EQ it... it's basically unmixed right now.

SHOPPA 4 LYFE
Jun 1, 2008

Remember
That on that day, at that hour, I shall lift my arms
And my roots will set off to seek another land

ashgromnies posted:

Hmm I'm not hearing it but I only have headphones to listen to it on at the moment. It's a high frequency you're hearing though? I can low pass it or EQ it... it's basically unmixed right now.

I'm not hearing any particular frequency, I just think the song needs a different bass. The one he's talking about sticks out, but not in a good way.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
Basically what he said^. But more importantly if that didn't jump out at you immediately while you were making it I would switch up my headphones or find a set of speakers to test stuff out on.

SHOPPA 4 LYFE
Jun 1, 2008

Remember
That on that day, at that hour, I shall lift my arms
And my roots will set off to seek another land

Thoogsby posted:

Basically what he said^. But more importantly if that didn't jump out at you immediately while you were making it I would switch up my headphones or find a set of speakers to test stuff out on.

Sometimes the way the song sounds in my DAW is drastically different than what I hear when I listen to the master in iTunes or whatever. A lot of times I have to export, listen to it, see what needs adjusting, then go back into Ableton and edit, re-export and check it. Rinse and repeat until the sound is tight enough or until I give up. Could be the issue here?

I need some loving monitors.

Muck and Mire
Dec 9, 2011

Might want to check the settings on Ableton's file export if that's the case, your .wav should sound exactly like your master channel in the program

But also yes get monitors

SHOPPA 4 LYFE
Jun 1, 2008

Remember
That on that day, at that hour, I shall lift my arms
And my roots will set off to seek another land

Muck and Mire posted:

Might want to check the settings on Ableton's file export if that's the case, your .wav should sound exactly like your master channel in the program

But also yes get monitors

What would be difference in the export settings that would cause that discrepancy?

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
I have nice expensive monitors and I still notice slight variances in the mix depending on what platform I'm listening to something on (iTunes, SoundCloud etc). Obviously uploading things to the web will affect the sound but I'm talking about loudness/fullness in relation to other elements. My finishing a song workflow looks something like this: listen on monitors -> listen on good headphones -> listen on poo poo headphones or speakers -> adjust -> render -> convert to 320kbs mp3 -> upload/share.

Muck and Mire
Dec 9, 2011

SHOPPA 4 LYFE posted:

What would be difference in the export settings that would cause that discrepancy?

"Normalize" would be the first thing to look at, but generally your track shouldn't sound any different after you export as opposed to playing it through in Ableton. If it sounds different on the same listening setup then it's almost certainly in your export settings.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
I re-did the bass on https://soundcloud.com/seesub-1/call-me

And here's something else: https://soundcloud.com/seesub-1/check-this

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
my homie Sapient dropped this one today :confused:

http://youtu.be/KIEE6cmQRrY

SHOPPA 4 LYFE
Jun 1, 2008

Remember
That on that day, at that hour, I shall lift my arms
And my roots will set off to seek another land

THNDRTHF posted:

my homie Sapient dropped this one today :confused:

http://youtu.be/KIEE6cmQRrY

s'aight

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
I haven't listened to Sapient since like 2006 and that song/video were really cool I'm going to have to get that album.

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic

he normally makes rap, he did some kind of experimental indy rock album thing

Tahm Bwady
Aug 7, 2008

Its 1 thing to jump and be able to land on 2 feet but I had no idea I was landing in Heaven.Hope all is well on this good Friday
So yeah me and my friends did a mixtape thing. This Is A Mixtape.

I'm the guy with the less dorky voice Billy Bass

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
Weird: https://soundcloud.com/seesub-1/nachtmusik

edit: holy god that bass is bad, 1s

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
experimenting with additive synthesis. shits weird.
https://soundcloud.com/goobermusic/eros

e: I'm on a big jeru kick. Except for 99% his beats really went to poo poo when Premier split.

Thoogsby fucked around with this message at 06:21 on May 20, 2013

SHOPPA 4 LYFE
Jun 1, 2008

Remember
That on that day, at that hour, I shall lift my arms
And my roots will set off to seek another land
https://soundcloud.com/marcus-keyboy/kara-juelz-great-to-great-prod

I knew this girl in elementary school, and now her flow is pretty nice. It's like a more aggressive female spitta

Freddie Gibbis
Jul 30, 2007

~~ schween lyfe ~~
sup guys. gonna try to engage in here a bit more frequently cuz i miss you guys

here is my newest song, all of the sounds on it except the synths and the kick / snare are live percussion poo poo cuz my wife got me a huge box of like maracas and cabasas and guiros and poo poo for my birthday, hahaha

the song is about RAP HANDS

https://soundcloud.com/satellite-high/rap-hands

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.

Freddie Gibbis posted:

sup guys. gonna try to engage in here a bit more frequently cuz i miss you guys

here is my newest song, all of the sounds on it except the synths and the kick / snare are live percussion poo poo cuz my wife got me a huge box of like maracas and cabasas and guiros and poo poo for my birthday, hahaha

the song is about RAP HANDS

https://soundcloud.com/satellite-high/rap-hands

Someone I follow on twitter tweeted this today, good poo poo.

Shovelbearer
Oct 11, 2003
Paragon of Lexicon

Freddie Gibbis posted:

sup guys. gonna try to engage in here a bit more frequently cuz i miss you guys

here is my newest song, all of the sounds on it except the synths and the kick / snare are live percussion poo poo cuz my wife got me a huge box of like maracas and cabasas and guiros and poo poo for my birthday, hahaha

the song is about RAP HANDS

https://soundcloud.com/satellite-high/rap-hands

Excellent, well done.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
I stayed up for a long rear end time sampling death metal tunes
https://soundcloud.com/goobermusic/from-sweden-with-heaters

Shovelbearer
Oct 11, 2003
Paragon of Lexicon

Thoogsby posted:

I stayed up for a long rear end time sampling death metal tunes
https://soundcloud.com/goobermusic/from-sweden-with-heaters

This is pretty rad. I like your kick and snare a lot.

So, my main music buddy met this rapper and recruited me to be half of the production team working with him. The rapper in question remarked that the two sounds that move him the most are bass guitar and electric organ, so I've been working on developing some stuff that features those sounds. This isn't a finished product but I'd like some feedback on the direction of the sound here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/lemondropkid/GeneSyS2_01.mp3

edit: after listening to it in a few different scenarios, some frequencies were bumming me out so I've re-EQ'd it, in case anyone had downloaded it.

Shovelbearer fucked around with this message at 16:02 on May 23, 2013

SHOPPA 4 LYFE
Jun 1, 2008

Remember
That on that day, at that hour, I shall lift my arms
And my roots will set off to seek another land

Shovelbearer posted:

This is pretty rad. I like your kick and snare a lot.


Agreed, they remind me of a Justice track in some ways.

Freddie Gibbis
Jul 30, 2007

~~ schween lyfe ~~
hey guys, i got like 32 bars of lyrics for a track that's just name-dropping poo poo about 1980's pro wrestlers (ala gza's "labels")

im feeling uninspired though and i could really use a real aggressive grimy n' slumpy beat for it, around 84-90bpm. if anybody's got anything laying around they wanna donate, hit me up -- satellitehighthemc (at) gmail dot com

i can't guarantee anything but i got a couple connections and can probably get written up at a few places around the web

HIT ME UP WITH THAT poo poo

Thoogsby posted:

I stayed up for a long rear end time sampling death metal tunes
https://soundcloud.com/goobermusic/from-sweden-with-heaters

i dunno about this one man, all of the components sound cool on their own but dont really mesh if ya feel me. like, the bells are dope as gently caress but they don't really sit well on top of that chopped guitar riff. i'd maybe tone it down a bit and try to make things sparses, esp. on the drums front

Freddie Gibbis
Jul 30, 2007

~~ schween lyfe ~~
ps i know i just suggested sparseness right after posting a track with like sixteen tracks of percussion so im basically worthless

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
Hah, i get your point. When I'm working on something I never know if I should make it laid back enough for someone to spit over or keep it heavy on vocal drops and beat breaks/fills to keep people's attention.

Freddie Gibbis
Jul 30, 2007

~~ schween lyfe ~~

Thoogsby posted:

Hah, i get your point. When I'm working on something I never know if I should make it laid back enough for someone to spit over or keep it heavy on vocal drops and beat breaks/fills to keep people's attention.

i think you can still get super-busy and be rappable too, look at black milk or madlib, or dilla.... but i havent figured out how to do it yet hahaha

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.

Freddie Gibbis posted:

i think you can still get super-busy and be rappable too, look at black milk or madlib, or dilla.... but i havent figured out how to do it yet hahaha

Yeah for real.

I might have something grimey kicking around at ~90bpm I could polish up for you, when you say aggressive how aggressive we talking?

Chwoka
Jan 27, 2008

I'm Abed, and I never watch TV.

i don't know about aggressive but if you want wrestling you should hook up with jcw

KaosPV
Sep 25, 2007
Mediterranean schizo
Saw Death Grips and Killer Mike last night. It was cool, Death Grips were so loving noisy they had my bowels vibrating with their basses.

OK, I wanted to ask you guys some advice on making snappy tight snares. I'm thinking about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42GTZYaCz0A

(Min 1:35, first beat that comes in).

Any compression, EQing techniques, base samples to look for recommended?

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Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
You can recreate punch like that by taking a 707 tom and pitching it up to ~200kHz, also parallel compression all day.

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