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Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Brimmy posted:

Didn't you come on a public contract and skip out to an afterschool contract after only 6 months?

Nope, hagwon owners closed after 4 months, but the job was pretty lovely and I was looking for a new place to work anyways, and the afterschool fell into my lap and the timing lined up perfectly.

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Stay Safe
Sep 1, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Can someone add me to Kakao, name is Latisi

EDIT: Thanks. I'm in

Stay Safe fucked around with this message at 15:16 on May 22, 2013

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

You guys ever have the Korean teachers turn one of your classes into an hour of "revising" the kids school homework, and you realize you're essentially just doing it for them. And then it's like, really, their parents are just paying to have a native speaker do their kids English homework for them?

Then you think about the kids who cant afford that, and you kind of worry about the ethics of the whole thing?

Then you listen to some public school teachers talk about how absolutely retarded their kids are, when you just taught a near fluent 12 year old whose moms a pharmacist and it all kinda comes together?

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Eh, as in most countries, the rich stay rich, the system is rigged and the education systems is always tipped in the favor of the ones who have the money to succeed. It's not unique to Korea, it's just that not many people see it as a problem, but rather something to aspire to. The American dream is alive and well in Korea.

Basically what I'm saying is vote Ron Paul 2016 and buy buttcoins.

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

BrainDance posted:

You guys ever have the Korean teachers turn one of your classes into an hour of "revising" the kids school homework, and you realize you're essentially just doing it for them. And then it's like, really, their parents are just paying to have a native speaker do their kids English homework for them?

Then you think about the kids who cant afford that, and you kind of worry about the ethics of the whole thing?

Then you listen to some public school teachers talk about how absolutely retarded their kids are, when you just taught a near fluent 12 year old whose moms a pharmacist and it all kinda comes together?

I was told not to do simple worksheets with kindergartners because it was too hard. One month later when they started their second year of school I was told to work through a whole workbook with them and was met with flustered aggravation when I revealed the stunning fact that they couldn't do poo poo because they had never done simple worksheets so how could they do more advanced ones. Even more baffling is the fact that they were also angry that I was writing the answers on the board as we read through the worksheets and they would copy. They expected them to write the answers by themselves. She then "showed me how to do it" by doing the exact same thing I was doing already. This was the head teacher with 20 years of experience.

I was also told to have my highest level class practice for the NEAT test. So I had them write and use new vocabulary daily. I was then told to stop this because they couldn't study for it. Which is the entire point of the NEAT test.

I no longer expect competence in any sort of fashion in Korea. From anyone.
It really does seem to run almost exclusively on "Perception is Reality"

Gildiss fucked around with this message at 15:25 on May 22, 2013

aeglus
Jul 13, 2003

WEEK 1 - RETIRED
Just did some voice acting work for 6 hours straight and other than wanting to die from lack of sleep it was a nice enough experience. I think if I got some sleep first it would have been better. Look forward to plenty of jokes in the background during Daniel Henney's winter comedy action romance thriller whatever SPY.

Also here's some more stuff I did recently and thanks to the lurkers that showed up last time. Was fun meeting you. Who ever knew that not working would be so busy!?


vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka
Cool, I'll just have gotten back to Seoul and its near lots of my old haunts, so I'll try and make it.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


My friend gave me his old phone. It's SK and my existing service is also SK. Can I just take this to a shop and say yo, this is my phone now, switch my poo poo over?

USMC_Karl
Nov 17, 2003

SUPPORTER OF THE REINSTATED LAWFUL HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT. HAOLES GET OFF DA `AINA.
Whelp, I have to retract my offer of job placement. Job offer was rescinded due to some issues with my current employer, looks like I have to go back to my boss and try to talk her into letting me stay. What a disappointment, but such is life. I'll still stick around and am still willing to offer advice and what not. Sorry dudes.

TreFitty
Jan 18, 2003

My coworkers are always astonished by how ineffective/inefficient/nonsensical Korea is in business terms. And I love to watch their reactions and explain. Half way through 1 week of 2 of doing this so far.

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005
So is 3 years the new 1 year?

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
I've been thinking lately. You know how you can see those trampoline rooms occasionally where they charge kids to jump around for X minutes? If you were to open a little 9 hole put-put course in one of those and get the word out I bet you could make a killing. Those trampoline rooms make enough to only charge each kid like 1000 won for 15 minutes. I bet you could charge 5 or so per head. Find a cheap basement somewhere and do the right kind of marketing...




Not something I'd ever actually do, but a tempting thought.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I am still shocked that minigolf isn't a thing here. It seems like a thing Koreans would love.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Oh god help me I think I accidentally bought the titty channels and the bill went to my boss.

I think he's being cool about it though...

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012

Grand Fromage posted:

I am still shocked that minigolf isn't a thing here. It seems like a thing Koreans would love.

It's not. There used to be a minigolf course on top of Yongsan iPark, and it didn't last very long. Koreans just don't see the point.

Maybe money could be made if you could set up a small course on a sidewalk in Children's Grand Park or somewhere, but I wouldn't like to be the one to try to break through.

I just mentioned this to a Korean-American coworker and she said "Koreans are satisfied with screen golf."

terivinix fucked around with this message at 05:51 on May 24, 2013

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer
It'll take off once a Korean gets into the World Cup Putt Putt finals.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
It probably wasn't being marketed correctly. If it were advertized to children (and to fathers as "you can either go to a lovely kid's movie or practice your putting") I don't understand how it wouldn't be successful.

BrainDance posted:

Oh god help me I think I accidentally bought the titty channels and the bill went to my boss.

I think he's being cool about it though...

Haha "accidentally."

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS POST)

Toussaint Louverture posted:

It probably wasn't being marketed correctly. If it were advertized to children (and to fathers as "you can either go to a lovely kid's movie or practice your putting") I don't understand how it wouldn't be successful.
Father's doing something with their kids? I see your problem.

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

DontAskKant posted:

Father's doing something with their kids? I see your problem.

*kindergarten student picks up a coat hanger and shakes it menacingly in his hand while saying Mommy.*

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Toussaint Louverture posted:

Haha "accidentally."

Accidentally paid. The titties were intentional, I just thought it was a part of my cable setup and the password was just to keep kids out or something.

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012
You can measure years in Korea based on the number of times you hear other foreigners talk about how big minigolf would be in this country.

Maxsmart
May 24, 2008

Mexichat

DontAskKant posted:

Father's doing something with their kids? I see your problem.

I see fathers out with their kids all the time here. Moreso than even back in the states. Check your stereotype bro. :c00lbert:

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
I always thought two huge untapped cash cows here are Cinnabon and Dairy Queen. I feel like people would go nuts for Blizzards and those loving amazing cinnamon rolls. Dairy Queen would have to be marketed a little differently, like a Smoothie King or something.

Then again, so many of my students tell me that anything sweeter than a red bean paste is too sweet. Red bean paste isn't even that sweet, it's the poor man's chocolate and it's disgusting.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Cameron posted:

I always thought two huge untapped cash cows here are Cinnabon and Dairy Queen. I feel like people would go nuts for Blizzards and those loving amazing cinnamon rolls. Dairy Queen would have to be marketed a little differently, like a Smoothie King or something.

Koreans eat sweet food all the time. People just don't cop to it. I've choked down garlic bread sweeter than a snickers.

Cinnabon is in Bundang.

Arakan
May 10, 2008

After some persuasion, Fluttershy finally opens up, and Twilight's more than happy to oblige in doing her best performance as a nice, obedient wolf-puppy.
Dairy queen is pretty big in China and yes they have red bean flavors and other gross poo poo, are you sure there's no DQ's in Seoul?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I have made cinnamon rolls for friends and they are universally adored. Cinnabon would work, in my data set.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
I love how so many people (including Koreans) say Koreans don't like sweet food as they eat their sugary pringles and walk by the forth Ben&Jerries or Dunkin on the block.

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012
I found a reference dating back to December 2007 that there might've been one Dairy Queen in Seoul, in the Techno Mart in Gwangjin-gu. "On the 10th floor there is a CGV movie theater with a total of 2,000 seats. Also, a Dairy Queen! The only one I've seen in Korea; was nice to be able to get a peanut-buster parfait! :)"

Could be long gone.

Toussaint Louverture posted:

I love how so many people (including Koreans) say Koreans don't like sweet food as they eat their sugary pringles and walk by the forth Ben&Jerries or Dunkin on the block.

Not to mention the irritatingly sweet breads they make. Garlic bread isn't supposed to be sugary!

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

I'm gonna introduce Suikerbrood to Korea and make millions.



See those brown spots? It's all sugar, baby.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS POST)
You don't need to cite foreign food made sweet there's 수정과 and 식혜 and lots of various rice desserts and snacks, the hard rice krispie things are painfully sweet. Not to mention the sweet waffles with a huge blob of frosting inside.

Maybe Nonsan they spend time with their kids, but that's also fat Korea and doesn't have that many people. My kids barely see their fathers and can't say anything that they've done with their father's recently. These are the good ones too, maybe only the kids with no ability to communicate spend time with their fathers, they just can't tell me.

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005
I really don't think mini golf will ever take off in korea. I mean, why would it? To fill up that ample recreation time most Koreans have?

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka
Dating, I mean just think of the aegyo potential that mini golf has :colbert:

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Apparently there used to be Cinnabon, but they all closed in 2004? Some Internet stuff says there might be one at the American base in Yongsan?

ghableska
Jul 9, 2008

Eldjarn posted:

[places to eat]

I just realized you like the vegetarian map, so you might be a vegetarian - I would highly recommend trying not to be one(if possible) for your stay here.

I'm really late replying to all of these, but thanks for the suggestions! I am vegetarian, though not an especially strict one, and I've realized that it's a giant pain to be strict about things like that while traveling - I end up getting worried about what I'm eating/not eating, the people I'm traveling with get annoyed, and I get weird looks from the locals. As long as I can avoid giant hunks of meat in what I'm eating, I should be fine. :)

Cameron posted:

I highly suggest trying Okonomiyaki while you're here, even though it's Japanese food. You can get it made vegetarian, just add cheese instead of meat or something. I think pork fat is used to grease the grill, though, so keep that in mind. There a good place called Fugetsu (후게츠) here in Sinchon.

Yes! I had Okonomiyaki while in Japan and loved it.

And terivinix, thanks for that website - it's the kind of thing I was looking for.

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

Cameron posted:

Apparently there used to be Cinnabon, but they all closed in 2004? Some Internet stuff says there might be one at the American base in Yongsan?

I can confirm this. Don't have one at Osan though, just Crispy Creme. I think there's going to be a Jamba Juice / Cinnabon fusion knockoff completed soon though.

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
So if I want to grab Cinnabon, do I just walk through the gates or what? I'm an American citizen, but I've never gone on base before. What exactly am I supposed to do? Anything special?

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005

Cameron posted:

So if I want to grab Cinnabon, do I just walk through the gates or what? I'm an American citizen, but I've never gone on base before. What exactly am I supposed to do? Anything special?

I heard they test you on your citizenship. Rumor is they show you a picture of a kneeling fireman on 9/11 with the words 'never forget'. This is super imposed onto a crying bald eagle. Whether or not you're a real American can be determined by how you react.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Cameron posted:

So if I want to grab Cinnabon, do I just walk through the gates or what? I'm an American citizen, but I've never gone on base before. What exactly am I supposed to do? Anything special?

You can't just walk on. You need to be escorted on by a soldier or military contractor or someone else with base access.
I believe once a year yongsan opens the base up to people. On the 4th of July maybe? Yeah, but besides that, you need someone to escort you on.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Cameron posted:

So if I want to grab Cinnabon, do I just walk through the gates or what? I'm an American citizen, but I've never gone on base before. What exactly am I supposed to do? Anything special?

Basic is you have to be escorted on by someone with base access. Just trawl around the GI bars outside the gate and make a buddy or hit up one of the mil goons (hi nullscan). You will need to surrender your ARC card at the front gate, be within eyesight of your escort at all times, and you technically cannot buy anything from the main store or grocer (box and commissary).

The fast food is exactly the same as back home. You'll be bewildered by hearing all conversations in English, and how trashy us GIs dress when out and about. I don't think it's worth it, but I lived on a base so it should be new and exciting for you.

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Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Are there any goons who are at Yongsan? Honestly I don't care if I just have to wait outside the gates and they bring me the Cinnabon and I pass them 20,000 or 25,000 or however much a 6 pack is (plus something extra for their troubles). My birthday is coming up next month and I'm going to pig out for one day.

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