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lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

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If any of you guys got the latest Cold Cave 7" ("Black Boots") on black, #'d, I'll take it off you for stupid money. XOXO.

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Cloks posted:

Here's an interesting article about a guy who makes his own white-hot stampers.

Seriously though, it's about a man who re-releases classical music from the 50's and 60's on vinyl with excessive detail paid to the minutiae of the entire package.

:stonk:

Okay, now THAT'S a bit too much.

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say
I like how he says CDs and digital media are a con and then charges £2,495 for some records

e: I dunno if you guys remember but a while back I posted about This Will Destroy You's Communal Blood single on pink vinyl. The guy had it listed at a buy it now price of $500 for like 6 weeks and last week he put it up for auction. I just won it for $152 I am insanely pleased

strap on revenge fucked around with this message at 03:03 on May 27, 2013

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
The turntable that I've been using for about six months has really started to fall apart. It's a Technics SL-220 and it has all sorts of problems: the hinges for the cover are broken, the arm is a little wonky and the speeds are somewhat off. I know that it'd be possible to clean some of the speed pots and possibly Macgyver the hinges into holding the cover but I'm questioning if it's really worth it.

I can probably put aside between 100-200 bucks on a new TT, should I do that or take this one somewhere to get it fixed up? It cost me 30 initially plus another 45 for a headshell and cart but I'm not sure if it's worth the money I keep putting into it.

Hibernator
Aug 14, 2011

I've been holding off on getting a turntable for too long. I have a small collection of vinyl -- I used to take it to the library listen to, but it's been too long and the collection is growing too big to listen to that way. I don't need the absolute best/top of the line; but I'd like to know which brands to avoid. What kind of turntables should I be looking at?

Jasta
Apr 13, 2012

I have been using an Audio-Technica LP120 for the past year and am loving it. I only wish it were automatic, but I'm usually near the turntable to lift the needle when the record ends so that's a pretty minor complaint. I ordered it from B&H Photo for a steal of a price; I think they were clearing them out. Anyway, the box it comes in is packed well so I wouldn't worry about ordering one online.

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax

Jasta posted:

I have been using an Audio-Technica LP120 for the past year and am loving it. I only wish it were automatic, but I'm usually near the turntable to lift the needle when the record ends so that's a pretty minor complaint. I ordered it from B&H Photo for a steal of a price; I think they were clearing them out. Anyway, the box it comes in is packed well so I wouldn't worry about ordering one online.

I agree with everything in the above post. I got mine via amazon prime, everything was fine in the shipping and I didn't have to pay whatever it costs to ship that thing (seriously the box is around 30lbs.)

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
I was looking at the AT LP120 earlier. I assume it needs a pre-amp but I already have one so that's not a huge problem. I like that it plays 78s as well - I have some of my grandfather's that I'm not really concerned about damaging, they're already in pretty rough shape.

What happens if you don't lift the needle when the record ends? Does the needle drag over the label?

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

The run-out groove will have a final, locked groove where the needle stays in place.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Cloks posted:

I was looking at the AT LP120 earlier. I assume it needs a pre-amp but I already have one so that's not a huge problem. I like that it plays 78s as well - I have some of my grandfather's that I'm not really concerned about damaging, they're already in pretty rough shape.

What happens if you don't lift the needle when the record ends? Does the needle drag over the label?

Even if the table has a 78 RPM speed, I'm pretty sure that they require a special kind of cart and stylus. I'm told that using the regular one could damage both the record and the stylus. Also I have that table and it does have a built in preamp. It's a good buy.

Astro Creep
May 14, 2013

There's no time, hurry up!

Everything's so fantastic!

Cloks posted:

I was looking at the AT LP120 earlier. I assume it needs a pre-amp but I already have one so that's not a huge problem. I like that it plays 78s as well - I have some of my grandfather's that I'm not really concerned about damaging, they're already in pretty rough shape.

What happens if you don't lift the needle when the record ends? Does the needle drag over the label?

Assuming the record has one, it perpetually spins on the blank groove just before the label.

And, echoing the previous posts, the AT-LP120 really is a fantastic little machine. I bought mine around a year and a half ago when Amazon was having a big vinyl sale. Add in Prime shipping from the free student trial, and it was practically a no-brainer.

I was very surprised with how solid it is. I was expecting a faux metal body or some other cost-reducing shortcuts for that price, but it's very well-built.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Astro Creep posted:

Assuming the record has one, it perpetually spins on the blank groove just before the label.

And, echoing the previous posts, the AT-LP120 really is a fantastic little machine. I bought mine around a year and a half ago when Amazon was having a big vinyl sale. Add in Prime shipping from the free student trial, and it was practically a no-brainer.

I was very surprised with how solid it is. I was expecting a faux metal body or some other cost-reducing shortcuts for that price, but it's very well-built.

I've had mine about five or six years and it's fantastic and probably the best table in that price range. It's no Technics 1200, but it's not junk either. I replaced the stock cart with the AT400MLa because the one that came with it used way too much tracking force, but I'm told the stock cart on the AT-LP120 is much better than when I got mine.

Jasta
Apr 13, 2012

CPL593H posted:

I've had mine about five or six years and it's fantastic and probably the best table in that price range. It's no Technics 1200, but it's not junk either. I replaced the stock cart with the AT400MLa because the one that came with it used way too much tracking force, but I'm told the stock cart on the AT-LP120 is much better than when I got mine.

Yeah, supposedly it's a different cart now. Can't remember the number offhand, but the tracking force for the one that came with my LP120 is 1.5 grams - 2.5 grams, and I find 2.0 to be perfect. I have heard good things about the Ortofon 2M Red and ordered one last week to try it out. Although, I think I need a protractor or GeoDisc thing to alight the needle? I've never mounted to a 1/2" headshell before.

And, as CPL593H stated, the LP120 does have a preamp. There is a switch on the back which allows you to turn it off and use your own if you're so inclined.

dentist toy box
Oct 9, 2012

There's a haint in the foothills of NC; the haint of the #3 chevy. The rich have formed a holy alliance to exorcise it but they'll never fucking catch him.


I'd been reading on another forum people talking poo poo about the AT LP 120 so I held off getting one, but I think I trust you all a bit more. I might get it when I get the money. I'm getting by on a Thrift store turntable right now.

Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008

Jasta posted:

I have heard good things about the Ortofon 2M Red and ordered one last week to try it out.

Make a post when you get it with your impressions, I've been thinking about buying one for my AT-LP 120 too.

Ron Burgundy
Dec 24, 2005
This burrito is delicious, but it is filling.
In the least offensive way possible, I think a cart like the 2M might be getting towards the limitations of the 120's arm. I would probably consider it the end of the upgrade path for this model.

CPL593H posted:

Even if the table has a 78 RPM speed, I'm pretty sure that they require a special kind of cart and stylus. I'm told that using the regular one could damage both the record and the stylus.

This is correct, it sounds like poo poo too since you are riding at the bottom of the groove in the dirt.

whereismyshoe
Oct 21, 2008

that's not gone well...

Personperson14 posted:

I'd been reading on another forum people talking poo poo about the AT LP 120 so I held off getting one, but I think I trust you all a bit more. I might get it when I get the money. I'm getting by on a Thrift store turntable right now.

I've got the AT-LP240 and FWIW it's a really nice piece of machinery. Nice heavy plinth and platter, upgraded tonearm from the 120. I got mine secondhand on ebay, but it's a really solid turntable and definitely worth a look imo. The only thing that's different is that there's no pitch control slider, but unless you're planning on DJing with it you won't really need that.

LooksLikeABabyRat
Jun 26, 2008

Oh dang, I'd nibble that cheese

Got my copy of Koyaanisqatsi signed by Philip Glass this weekend. That's pretty cool.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

LooksLikeABabyRat posted:

Got my copy of Koyaanisqatsi signed by Philip Glass this weekend. That's pretty cool.

That's really cool! I'd love to own more by composers like Glass and Reich but I only have the North Star soundtrack and Einstein on the Beach is stupid expensive.

Jasta
Apr 13, 2012

Space Jam posted:

Make a post when you get it with your impressions, I've been thinking about buying one for my AT-LP 120 too.

Will do. I chose cheap shipping and ordered from another country so who knows when it will arrive, but I'll definitely let you all know how it is.

Oh man, Koyaanisqatsi brings me back to my film studies days! That is so cool. It's such an atmospheric soundtrack.

As for signed LPs, the only one I have is Cosmo's Factory signed by John Fogerty. As it's one of my favourite albums, I am thrilled to have it. I hope to get more signed albums someday, not to throw them up on eBay, but just as a rad, added bonus.

Jasta fucked around with this message at 21:00 on May 28, 2013

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

CPL593H posted:

I've had mine about five or six years and it's fantastic and probably the best table in that price range. It's no Technics 1200, but it's not junk either. I replaced the stock cart with the AT400MLa because the one that came with it used way too much tracking force, but I'm told the stock cart on the AT-LP120 is much better than when I got mine.

It's now shipping with the AT-95E, which is like AudioTechnica's prime "intermediate" cart (~$50 new). The 95E is probably the best cartridge for that table and I don't think it would ever really be worth upgrading it from there. To echo Ron Burgundy's post, arguably the next logical step up would be somewhere like the Ortofon 2M series (the oft-mentioned Red/Blue/etc.), and then you start hitting the table's limitations and the modest gains don't really make the financial cost worth it. I don't mean that as a dig against the LP120 either- honestly, that table + the 95E are probably more than adequate for most people. As someone who can't tell the sound quality of two tables apart once you get past the $300 mark, the only thing that really has me considering a Debut Carbon over the LP120 for my living room is that I think the Carbon looks cooler.

Jasta posted:

And, as CPL593H stated, the LP120 does have a preamp. There is a switch on the back which allows you to turn it off and use your own if you're so inclined.

On that note: If anybody's in the market for a really good looking, relatively inexpensive, great sounding receiver-free TT setup for an office/bedroom/apartment that takes up very little room, try pairing an LP120 with a set of Audioengine A2 or A5 active speakers. Both speaker models also come with two auto-switching inputs, so it's super easy to use your computer/DAC/iPod too. I'm planning to get an LP120/Audioengine speaker (not sure which yet) setup for my bedroom- once I've finished messing with my living room and money permits.

Needledoctor sells a complete LP120/A2 set for $500, but they don't let you choose the color of your speakers and they basically charge you $300 for the table (which is what they charge for it alone). Given that it's $80 cheaper on Amazon, you're way better off just buying the table there and ordering whatever color of speakers you want from Audioengine directly.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

whereismyshoe posted:

I've got the AT-LP240 and FWIW it's a really nice piece of machinery. Nice heavy plinth and platter, upgraded tonearm from the 120. I got mine secondhand on ebay, but it's a really solid turntable and definitely worth a look imo. The only thing that's different is that there's no pitch control slider, but unless you're planning on DJing with it you won't really need that.

But the pitch slider is fun! Also, I have one bootleg that oddly enough is slightly (but noticeably) too high in pitch on one side and to hear it properly I have to reduce the speed a little.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Jasta posted:

signed albums

I think this is my favorite signed record:

Not shown- similar but more legible Bobby Digital 12"

The funniest I have is by CX KidtroniK. We were sending poo poo back and forth for a bit, and he sent me a great package with mix CDs and ripped out porn mag pages. He not only signed the album and drew pictures of fat booties on both label sides. Only problem, he signed the shrink wrap, not the actual cover.

E- I like this one too:


sorry if I've posted those before.

Snowy fucked around with this message at 02:23 on May 29, 2013

whooping crane
Feb 12, 2012
So I just bought Suicide - Suicide (limited edition) with a Cheree remix on side A and Frankie Teardrop , Che, and Keep Your Dreams on side B (that last one was weird to see, as was the remix). If anyone else has this copy of this Suicide record, are you experiencing problems playing Ghost Rider? On my copy, Ghost Rider (first track) keeps on skipping and then playing the same loops as if it's stuck in the groove, but every other track plays perfectly. What's the dealio? Is this a bad record, or is it just my record? Nothing is warped or scratched or smudged.

LooksLikeABabyRat
Jun 26, 2008

Oh dang, I'd nibble that cheese

My favorite signed record from my current vantage (I think I've posted it before):

whereismyshoe
Oct 21, 2008

that's not gone well...

CPL593H posted:

But the pitch slider is fun! Also, I have one bootleg that oddly enough is slightly (but noticeably) too high in pitch on one side and to hear it properly I have to reduce the speed a little.

I got the 240 for less than a 120 so i'm okay with the lack of slider. Plus, it's black

Jasta
Apr 13, 2012

whereismyshoe posted:

I got the 240 for less than a 120 so i'm okay with the lack of slider. Plus, it's black


drat, that's a nice looking TT. Also, good job on the price.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.
It does look a bit fancier than the 120. But I like that I can just push a button to hear backmasked messages on the records that occasionally have them.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Bomb the Music Industry!'s Vacation is back in stock at Really Records. This pressing is electric sunshine coloured apparently

izationalizer
Jul 2, 2012

I don't know what the hell's in there, but it's weird and pissed off, whatever it is.

whereismyshoe posted:

I got the 240 for less than a 120 so i'm okay with the lack of slider. Plus, it's black

That is a really nice looking TT. Congrats! As much as I hate to admit it, few things bring me more pleasure than a shiny new commodity--especially when said commodity relates to stereo/vinyl. It's fun to wake up in the morning after you get it, walk into the room it's in, and think, "Oh yeah, that's right, I almost forgot that I have this thing now. gently caress yeah. Let's watch it light up and spin!"

I don't have too many autographed records, but this one is probably my favorite. I didn't get it autographed personally, though. It was just a very lucky eBay BIN.

dutch wife abc
Apr 25, 2012

Snowy posted:

E- I like this one too:

Oh drat, that's sick.

I've only got a signed deluxe edition, so I guess it doesn't really count but whatever, I'm glad I own it:

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Odd question, instead of buying a new set of speakers could I hook my player up to my existing speakers that are used by my computer?

I have these right now: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MAudioAV40.html

So just have a splitter of some kind?

Elrobot
Dec 28, 2004
Press the buttons all at once, all of the time

whooping crane posted:

So I just bought Suicide - Suicide (limited edition) with a Cheree remix on side A and Frankie Teardrop , Che, and Keep Your Dreams on side B (that last one was weird to see, as was the remix). If anyone else has this copy of this Suicide record, are you experiencing problems playing Ghost Rider? On my copy, Ghost Rider (first track) keeps on skipping and then playing the same loops as if it's stuck in the groove, but every other track plays perfectly. What's the dealio? Is this a bad record, or is it just my record? Nothing is warped or scratched or smudged.

I have a copy of this record, but I'm confused as to the editions. I got the one with the bonus flexi with the live recording "23 Minutes in Bruxelles", where they basically get booed off stage. I'm traveling right now so I don't have the copy on hand, but don't remember anything messed up with any of the tracks.

On the signed records tip, I recently got Flying Lotus to sign a copy of his new LP after seeing him play in Oakland. Dude is totally legit and just hung out and signed poo poo for fans for a few hours after the show.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
I know the LP-60 isn't the best phono, but it was what I could afford at the time. Am I sandpapering my vinyl every time I use it or is it really not that bad? Sucks that I can't change the cartridge or adjust the tracking force, but... yeah.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

LP60 is fine. I used one for about a year, and I don't believe it ruined any vinyl.

Ron Burgundy
Dec 24, 2005
This burrito is delicious, but it is filling.

Vintersorg posted:

Odd question, instead of buying a new set of speakers could I hook my player up to my existing speakers that are used by my computer?

I have these right now: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MAudioAV40.html

So just have a splitter of some kind?

It's 100% dependent on what player you have, and if it has an inbuilt pre-amp. Otherwise you will need to buy one.

Jasta posted:

Cosmo's Factory signed by John Fogerty.


This thing loving rules.

CPL593H posted:

But the pitch slider is fun! Also, I have one bootleg that oddly enough is slightly (but noticeably) too high in pitch on one side and to hear it properly I have to reduce the speed a little.

As someone who grew up in a PAL country :australia: where all our movies are 4% fast, sometimes I need to crank up the speed a little because hearing movie songs 4% slow sounds strange to me. Even though they are only like half a semitone pitch difference, and by no means do I have perfect pitch.

Ron Burgundy fucked around with this message at 20:19 on May 29, 2013

Cpt. Spring Types
Feb 19, 2004

Wait, what?
I live in Colorado and it's dry as poo poo here, which equals static electricity on everything all the time. Which means it's insanely hard to keep static from building up while I'm playing records. So a couple of things...

Right now, if little specks of dust or cat hair get on the record, I use a brush like this one to try and remove it, but all it seems to do is push the dust around, and doesn't actually pick anything up. What's a better option? Even the records that I keep in anti-static sleeves seem to end up getting all clingy after a while.

Second thing is, what are y'all using for your slip mats? I have a straight up black felt one that I've had since I got my TT, and half the time, the drat thing sticks to the record when I take it off the spindle. Should I go for a rubber one, or is there an anti-static solution that would work?

Help me defeat my static woes!

WASDF
Jul 29, 2011

I use some sort of rubber/bendy plastic slip-mat that came with mine. Felt sounds awful for preventing static.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Cpt. Spring Types posted:

I live in Colorado and it's dry as poo poo here, which equals static electricity on everything all the time. Which means it's insanely hard to keep static from building up while I'm playing records. So a couple of things...

Right now, if little specks of dust or cat hair get on the record, I use a brush like this one to try and remove it, but all it seems to do is push the dust around, and doesn't actually pick anything up. What's a better option? Even the records that I keep in anti-static sleeves seem to end up getting all clingy after a while.

Second thing is, what are y'all using for your slip mats? I have a straight up black felt one that I've had since I got my TT, and half the time, the drat thing sticks to the record when I take it off the spindle. Should I go for a rubber one, or is there an anti-static solution that would work?

Help me defeat my static woes!

I don't know what to tell you about all the other problems, but yes absolutely replace the felt slip mat with a rubber one. Those felt ones love static.

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Astro Creep
May 14, 2013

There's no time, hurry up!

Everything's so fantastic!
As someone who lives in an excessively dry area, I feel your pain. For a brush, I would suggest the Audio-Technica 6012 Record Care Kit, but it looks like it's been discontinued. I haven't had any issues with it, it's been able to clean some pretty gnarly records with little trouble. If you can find it at a brick-and-mortar store, though, I highly recommend it.

This looks like a decent alternative. It's the same brush surface with a different body, and I believe the cleaning solution is very close to, if not the same as, the AT solution.

Astro Creep fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 29, 2013

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