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Poor old Dawkins getting himself into a real linguistic tangle. If only he'd studied sociology...
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# ? May 28, 2013 12:11 |
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That seems like a fair point. He's a dick for denigrating sociology (and I really hate his abrasive shittiness in general) but it's true you can be racist against white people. He even mentions disproportionate power and acknowledges institutional racism, which seems way better then most of the militant new atheist buttholes.
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# ? May 28, 2013 15:36 |
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Fandyien posted:That seems like a fair point. He's a dick for denigrating sociology (and I really hate his abrasive shittiness in general) but it's true you can be racist against white people. He even mentions disproportionate power and acknowledges institutional racism, which seems way better then most of the militant new atheist buttholes. It's pedantic to discuss "the dictionary definition" of racism or sexism and exclude - in fact, denigrate - the sociological contexts and frameworks. It's exactly the same thing that MRAs and freepers do. Anyone who talks about "according to Webster" when addressing a social theory is being utterly disingenuous and probably pushing a lovely agenda. A biologist talking about social matters dismisses sociologists. Seriously.
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# ? May 28, 2013 15:44 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's pedantic to discuss "the dictionary definition" of racism or sexism and exclude - in fact, denigrate - the sociological contexts and frameworks. It's exactly the same thing that MRAs and freepers do. Anyone who talks about "according to Webster" when addressing a social theory is being utterly disingenuous and probably pushing a lovely agenda. A biologist talking about social matters dismisses sociologists. Seriously. I saw that one out in the sticks while I was fishing over the weekend, then I saw this one when I got home: Is there some 9/11 thing happening that I didn't know about?
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# ? May 28, 2013 15:48 |
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eh nothing really
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# ? May 28, 2013 15:53 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's pedantic to discuss "the dictionary definition" of racism or sexism and exclude - in fact, denigrate - the sociological contexts and frameworks. It's exactly the same thing that MRAs and freepers do. Anyone who talks about "according to Webster" when addressing a social theory is being utterly disingenuous and probably pushing a lovely agenda. A biologist talking about social matters dismisses sociologists. Seriously. Yeah after rereading that I think it's not so much a "fair point" as it is more "BUT WHITE MALES" . I guess the only tweet there I think makes sense is the idea of distinguishing between racism and institutional racism, but then he jumps right into being a dick about soft sciences or whatever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
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# ? May 28, 2013 15:56 |
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As far as bumper stickers go, I'm not really a fan, but I did like the "Obey" (They Live) sticker I used to have on my old car. I usually wait till the car is falling apart before I sticker it up. I'm waiting to put this one on my current car.
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# ? May 28, 2013 15:56 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's pedantic to discuss "the dictionary definition" of racism or sexism and exclude - in fact, denigrate - the sociological contexts and frameworks. It's exactly the same thing that MRAs and freepers do. Anyone who talks about "according to Webster" when addressing a social theory is being utterly disingenuous and probably pushing a lovely agenda. A biologist talking about social matters dismisses sociologists. Seriously. While acknowledging existing power structures and institutional racism is important to social theory, people that go around saying that white people can never be victims of racism are, at best, simplifying something that is very complicated. (edit: Twitter should never be used for nuanced arguments in the first place) Anti-same sex marriage protesters in France versus riot cops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21McYCNJXO8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQP3POMpLM Wax Dynasty fucked around with this message at 16:20 on May 28, 2013 |
# ? May 28, 2013 16:03 |
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Some random stuff: Pope John XXIII (1958-63) receives some Native Americans to an audience, date unknown. Windsor Castle, UK The Imperial Camel Corps at Beersheba, 1917 Mulberry Street in NYC, c. 1900 A Chechen separatist fighter praying during the First Chechen War (1994-96). The Neue Wache ("New Guard House") in Berlin, dedicated as the "Central Memorial of the Federal Republic of Germany for the Victims of War and Tyranny" Taken by me at the pilgrim's church in my hometown. It reads: "Stand still and read, descendants. This place is awesome, it is where the Holy Trinity dwells, the rest of the Redemptor, the palace of the Three Wise Men, which, after it had been sanctified by the Angelic Music and the Heavenly Light, in the 18th century the Divine Providence has raised to this glory through alms. You follow the example set by your forebears and strive for the zeal of the House of the Lord and seek to replace what is yet lacking. Farewell."
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# ? May 28, 2013 16:04 |
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Early anti-vaccination artwork: I couldn't find a date on it, but I reverse image searched it and it's by James Gillray, who lived from 1757-1814, but I guess the smallpox vaccine was 1796, so it's probably somewhere around there. vvvvvvvvvvvv Haha man what a tremendous back of dicks. Ugh. Why do people harbor irrational, unjustifiable hatred for sociology? Frog Act fucked around with this message at 16:15 on May 28, 2013 |
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Fandyien posted:Yeah after rereading that I think it's not so much a "fair point" as it is more "BUT WHITE MALES" . I guess the only tweet there I think makes sense is the idea of distinguishing between racism and institutional racism, but then he jumps right into being a dick about soft sciences or whatever. I should have noted that those tweets, among others, were started off by him having a little tantrum over people denigrating his white male opinions. It was all basically "BUT WHITE MALES" - and when you spend most of your time commenting on the religion and customs of non-white people, especially as regards women, you really ought to expect and deal graciously with comments which point out that you are doing so as a white male. He then went on to tweet/retweet multiple insults about sociologists, including "@RichardDawkins be fair, sociology allows McDonald's to get a slightly more educated staff pool." Some more, since I have them lying around: I expect his defence of this would be that it is, in fact, the religious who are using the words imprecisely. After all, the dictionary entry on 'infallible' says...
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# ? May 28, 2013 16:10 |
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StickySweater posted:As far as bumper stickers go, I'm not really a fan, but I did like the "Obey" (They Live) sticker I used to have on my old car. I usually wait till the car is falling apart before I sticker it up. I'm waiting to put this one on my current car.
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Bloodnose posted:eh nothing really http://youtu.be/MxVdU2eVYSg
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# ? May 28, 2013 17:09 |
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Bloodnose posted:eh nothing really Bus in Bolivia.
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# ? May 28, 2013 17:19 |
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President Barack Obama holds up a stuffed bear that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, not shown, had won tossing a football after playing the 'Touchdown Fever' game on the boardwalk during their visit to Point Pleasant, NJ., Tuesday, May 28, 2013. Obama traveled to New Jersey to join Christie to inspect and tour the Jersey Shore's recovery efforts from Hurricane Sandy.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:I should have noted that those tweets, among others, were started off by him having a little tantrum over people denigrating his white male opinions. It was all basically "BUT WHITE MALES" - and when you spend most of your time commenting on the religion and customs of non-white people, especially as regards women, you really ought to expect and deal graciously with comments which point out that you are doing so as a white male. He then went on to tweet/retweet multiple insults about sociologists, including "@RichardDawkins be fair, sociology allows McDonald's to get a slightly more educated staff pool."
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# ? May 28, 2013 18:22 |
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Lil Wayne's memorial day post:
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# ? May 28, 2013 18:29 |
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This is awesome. Marijuana legalization is gaining some serious momentum over the last couple years. Only 6% of Americans support jail time for possession charges, and a new development, a majority now believe in legalization.
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# ? May 28, 2013 18:59 |
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seiferguy posted:
The amount of racism/sexism/white privilege on Reddit and Imgur is truly something to behold. I used to appreciate Imgur for dumb pictures I could laugh at, but slowly and surely a bunch of unfunny racist garbage has made its way onto the front pages. Things like this are common. It seems like any picture featuring a black person is going to be captioned in ebonics, and you can be damned sure they are going to have stereotypical names.
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# ? May 28, 2013 19:28 |
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Wax Dynasty posted:While acknowledging existing power structures and institutional racism is important to social theory, people that go around saying that white people can never be victims of racism are, at best, simplifying something that is very complicated. (edit: Twitter should never be used for nuanced arguments in the first place) Journalists attacked by anti-same sex marriage protesters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=nMAlqrjFXwo Journalists are often attacked in these protests.
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# ? May 28, 2013 20:18 |
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I'm done with politics forever, thanks Zach. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? May 28, 2013 20:26 |
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KoldPT posted:
I still prefer the earlier one he did on the same theme.
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# ? May 28, 2013 21:34 |
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Here is a terrible, racist parody video. http://youtu.be/2oXHozv2hcE
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# ? May 28, 2013 22:22 |
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There's a park in Arnhem that has statues of world leaders that shoot water out of their mouths. It's pretty cool.
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# ? May 28, 2013 22:27 |
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# ? May 28, 2013 22:45 |
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http://foxnewsporn.com/(Obviously ) Shows countless examples of Fox News using naked women and quasi softcore pornography in their "reporting" Family Research Council releases a book
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# ? May 28, 2013 22:56 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:http://foxnewsporn.com/(Obviously ) Using a racially-mixed couple in a children's book railing against marriage equality? Here's an example of political discourse in Orange County, California: Now, Larry Agran, the Democratic (now ex-) Mayor of Irvine targeted by this ad, is a well-known scumbag who used his "leftist" credentials to build a corrupt political machine Boss Tweed would be proud of. This past November, it was definitely time for him to go, but the mailer might have been a bit harsh, since Agran and his flunkies on the City Council weren't actively promoting Pedophilia in the Parks. Rather, they were miffed that the county would dare encroach on their control of their master-planned fiefdom. Even funnier is that the county DA, the equally corrupt Republican Tony Rackauckas (T-Rack, if you're nasty), participated in both this anti-Agran mailer and a pro-Agran robocalling blitz the day before the election.
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# ? May 29, 2013 00:08 |
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I must have completely missed that it was the FRC that put that book out because I thought the point was that Jimmy and his dads were supposed to realize that they were the way god made them and that they should be allowed to feel good about being gay and having a child vv
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# ? May 29, 2013 00:11 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKBY-fcc9jU
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# ? May 29, 2013 00:54 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1wHUI9EnOU
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# ? May 29, 2013 01:17 |
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Fandyien posted:Lil Wayne's memorial day post: The honourable Weezy F. is more right than you'd think. http://www.blackbluedog.com/2013/05/news/did-you-know-memorial-day-was-started-by-ex-slaves/ http://oyc.yale.edu/history/hist-119/lecture-19
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# ? May 29, 2013 03:12 |
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Fandyien posted:Lil Wayne's memorial day post: Well at least it didn't wind up being the subject of a full segment on Hannity tonight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBoxLeBvEZw
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:http://foxnewsporn.com/(Obviously ) Fandyien posted:Early anti-vaccination artwork:
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# ? May 29, 2013 06:56 |
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# ? May 29, 2013 07:23 |
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I haven't seen it posted so far, but I look forward to this every year. It's the 2013 White House Correspondent's Dinner! Featuring Barack Obama discussing his opinions on Buzzfeed, Ted Cruz, and Taylor Swift: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON2XWvyePH8 And TBS's Conan O'Brien discussing his opinions on Joe Biden, The Pope, The Tonight Show, and C-Span. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIgSgLFwEMs :edit: I just noticed it while watching, the twitter tag for the event was #nerdprom Brute Squad fucked around with this message at 09:37 on May 29, 2013 |
# ? May 29, 2013 09:26 |
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Legitimately powerful image.
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# ? May 29, 2013 11:42 |
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Similar to this incidentally much better known picture, undoubtedly posted before: Beria with Stalin's daughter
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# ? May 29, 2013 12:07 |
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allegedly painted by Hitler
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# ? May 29, 2013 12:48 |
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Fandyien posted:Early anti-vaccination artwork: Actually from the looks of it, that's an inoculation, which was different than the vaccine. An inoculation, specifically called a variolation at the time, was the placement of live smallpox into an open wound (typically after a few weeks of bleeding and mercury ingestion). It was actually pretty reasonable to be against inoculation. An inoculated person basically got a milder case of smallpox, but while it was milder for them, they were still very contagious with the full strength smallpox. And because it was milder, the inoculated would often be out and about spreading their smallpox around. So anti-variolation sentiment was more about "hey assholes, stop infecting our kids with smallpox" rather than "are freedoms." Edit: Oops, didn't bother to read the caption. Cow pox inoculations were much, much safer and didn't cause contagiousness, but again, given what happened with variolation, the skepticism is, I think, understandable. I Appreciate You fucked around with this message at 13:53 on May 29, 2013 |
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I don't know about his views on feminism, but he is best buds with Dr. Wily: (Sonic the Hedgehog #248)
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# ? May 29, 2013 13:42 |