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jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
With an accessport you can have the car automatically cut throttle for you at a certain rpm (or just at redline) so that you can keep your foot to the floor while shifting. Still might not be good for the syncros or transmission in some cases but not the same as just letting the engine bang off the limiter between shifts. I can really only see it being useful at the drag strip.

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Danger Doug
Jul 10, 2007

jamal posted:

With an accessport you can have the car automatically cut throttle for you at a certain rpm (or just at redline) so that you can keep your foot to the floor while shifting. Still might not be good for the syncros or transmission in some cases but not the same as just letting the engine bang off the limiter between shifts. I can really only see it being useful at the drag strip.

I should have mentioned that I was using an AP. I had always thought that the gearbox could not be under load in order for proper synchro mesh, and doing so was taking years of life out of the transmission. Thanks for the info, I'll leave it for my non-existent drag races!

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



On the topic of manual shifting and boost is it possible to shift fast enough with a manual to maintain boost? A co-worker with a WRX was saying that it wasn't (or at least not safe on the car to try and do) which was an advantage to automatic transmission cars with respect to having a turbo.

Yakattak
Dec 17, 2009

I am Grumpypuss
>:3

il serpente cosmico posted:

As in, keeping the accelerator pushed in while shifting? Not a good idea--it's going to cause a lot of wear and tear on your drivetrain.

I think (hope) most people that talk about flat-footed shifting in WRXs are using an ECU tune that essentially acts as a rev limiter in between shifts. Basically, you preset an RPM for the engine to fall to while you have the pedal floored the entire time. This has the advantage of automatically rev limiting upshifts while doing a redline WOT pull, and you're also saving some time by keeping the pedal mashed in the entire time. Since you're cutting fuel to achieve the rev limit I'm not sure if you're actually maintaining boost.

My buddy had it on his 07 WRX wagon and it maintained boost extremely well. Launching and then using FFS was a hell of a lot more insane than just pulling off and going WOT and letting off the gas each shift.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat

Totally TWISTED posted:

On the topic of manual shifting and boost is it possible to shift fast enough with a manual to maintain boost? A co-worker with a WRX was saying that it wasn't (or at least not safe on the car to try and do) which was an advantage to automatic transmission cars with respect to having a turbo.
You aren't going to maintain peak boost but if I shift quickly at redline it's not exactly lacking pull and still has plenty of boost going.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Totally TWISTED posted:

On the topic of manual shifting and boost is it possible to shift fast enough with a manual to maintain boost? A co-worker with a WRX was saying that it wasn't (or at least not safe on the car to try and do) which was an advantage to automatic transmission cars with respect to having a turbo.

Yes it is and it's also possible to do that without slamming the poo poo out of the gearbox.

To answer the flatshift question - it's strictly for racing. STRICTLY. And only if your ECU is programmed to know you are doing it so you dont blow the poo poo out of gearboxes, cluthces, diffs and oooooooh man I can just imagine the damage -_-

Flatshift is also NOT good for synchros - you are basically going against them, you will break one or more likely most of them. Flatshift is best for dog boxes where it's built for it and even designed to be explicitly easier to shift if you keep the pedal nailed and you go for the next gear s fast as humanly possible. Which is also why dog boxes work better with sequential or hydro-pnumatic paddle actuation, you can really hustle the gear change. Synchros dont like that. Thence leave flat change for racing and for a dog box.

G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011
This weekend I took my STi along with two friends (06 STi and a Type-R) to Gingerman and Gratten raceways for some lapping days. It performed flawlessly even including the 6 hour drives to the tracks from home. I put over 1,000 miles in 4 days and I got over 3 hours of track time. My new whiteline com-c's that I ordered from Jamal performed great.

Here have a picture.

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


DrakeriderCa posted:

Isn't one of our resident Subaru guru's from Alberta? If so, could you give me a recommendation on a good mechanic to work on my Forester in the Edmonton area (preferably the west side or spruce/stony)?

Price is important but I want my car to still run afterwards.

My friend with a turbo Scooby wagon has nothing but good things to say about these guys: http://apexspecialized.ca/

They unfortunately aren't on the west end.

Yakattak
Dec 17, 2009

I am Grumpypuss
>:3

How are we defining FFS? Are we defining it as flooring the car, clutch in, shift, clutch out? I know that the Cobb OTS FFS only works if the clutch is in.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Yakattak posted:

How are we defining FFS? Are we defining it as flooring the car, clutch in, shift, clutch out? I know that the Cobb OTS FFS only works if the clutch is in.

Either with or without clutch, dont matter. On a dog box the change is best done without the clutch being touched

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
With syncros you need to use the clutch. Trying to float gears, especially at full throttle is just asking to blow up a syncro or destroy the engagement teeth.

G-Mach posted:

This weekend I took my STi along with two friends (06 STi and a Type-R) to Gingerman and Gratten raceways for some lapping days. It performed flawlessly even including the 6 hour drives to the tracks from home. I put over 1,000 miles in 4 days and I got over 3 hours of track time. My new whiteline com-c's that I ordered from Jamal performed great.

Here have a picture.


Sweet. Steering feel a little better now?

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

DrakeriderCa posted:

Isn't one of our resident Subaru guru's from Alberta? If so, could you give me a recommendation on a good mechanic to work on my Forester in the Edmonton area (preferably the west side or spruce/stony)?

Price is important but I want my car to still run afterwards.

Usually I get work done in Calgary by Vex Performance; Allmakes is awful and should be fled from as much as possible.

For dealership work or parts travel to Red Deer to get Scott Subaru involved - they are by far the best Western Canadian Subaru dealership.

In Edmonton I have heard good things about Apex Specialized but I have also been told that they gouge on some jobs. Most of the time someone in the local Subaru club (Western Subaru Club) will either direct you to a good shop for it or help you do it in your own garage.

G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011

jamal posted:

With syncros you need to use the clutch. Trying to float gears, especially at full throttle is just asking to blow up a syncro or destroy the engagement teeth.


Sweet. Steering feel a little better now?

It's like a night and day difference. My RS3's managed to survive the ordeal and surprisingly have a lot of life left in them as well.
I managed to get some clean laps during both lapping days and ran some pretty decent times according to my free timing app.

Gingerman: 1.46.01

Gratten: 1.29.80

Gratten has a bunch of blind corners with elevation changes in them. I'd whole heartily recommend a track day there.

Here is a trip report from my friend with the type-r:

quote:

GingerMan - Been a while since I've been back there. They extended the track and it's awesome coming out of the combination 7,8,9 turns full throttle into 10 which starts as a downhill turn then exits uphill. The Type R was pretty slow compared to the STi's at this track trailing them by over 10 seconds.

Grattan - On the first lap the track I forgot how much of this track you can't see while doing a lap. Makes a guy pretty nervous, but after a few laps most of it started to come back. Great fun. It's kind of like USAIR, but a lot bigger. Suspension bottoming out and unloading several times during a lap which gives the car's suspension quite a work out. You come onto the 3,000 foot long main straight up a blind hill at 85mph or so and I saw 122 mph indicated by the end. Which probably works out to about 115 mph actual since my speedo reads a bit fast. The turn at the end of the straight is unusually fast since the track is really wide at this point. Fun to keep pushing the entry speeds up. The Type R closed the gap from the STi's at this track lagging behind by 4 seconds or so.

3 Balls Racing held a very nice event at Grattan. There were a lot of cars on track, but in my group there were several cars I had a lot of fun chasing because we were so close. In the final session I got to play chase with Brandon and had a good laugh when 05 STi went on two wheels negotiating the off camber turn 3.

I normally three wheel a lot, but I have never two wheeled a car before. :rms:

My friend in the 06 STi took some video while at Gratten as well. Since it was both our first times at both tracks there is a lot of time left in our laps for improvement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAa6gLvWYAs

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related
What is the normal procedure for researching a particular vehicle that happens to be 6 hours away? Wife and I are looking for a 07 WRX wagon (drat near impossible to find any anywhere) and found one in Ohio. We are not sure how to proceed with vetting the car. I assume we should find a mechanic, have him give it the once over and proceed from there. Can anyone recommend a mechanic who knows subarus near Cleveland? Is this a bad idea and should I just keep looking closer to home?

c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAYjiwq01MA

Had a good race Memorial Day at Lime Rock Park. Held down the Subaru cred against Nissan. Was a great race against the Nissan 240SX which was in my class. Had a nice offroad excursion at 19:17 but was able to get going before he caught back up.

Saerjin
Jun 29, 2009
Hey guys,
If I crack open my rear differential or completely remove the cover - will I run into complications if I don't replace the gasket?

I'm fixing to change my fluid, fill plug came out nicely but the drain plug is very stubborn. Tried heating it up, breaker bar and even using a jack for leverage. Only thing that came from all of that was the plug starting to strip.

I thought about taking it to a muffler shop and have an extension weld onto it but figured if I could just pop off the cover then i'd do that.

It's for a 99RS.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Saerjin posted:

Hey guys,
If I crack open my rear differential or completely remove the cover - will I run into complications if I don't replace the gasket?

I'm fixing to change my fluid, fill plug came out nicely but the drain plug is very stubborn. Tried heating it up, breaker bar and even using a jack for leverage. Only thing that came from all of that was the plug starting to strip.

I thought about taking it to a muffler shop and have an extension weld onto it but figured if I could just pop off the cover then i'd do that.

It's for a 99RS.

You can't just pop the cover... You have to remove the diff from the car to do that. And if you remove the diff, just tip it on its back to drain the oil out the fill hole.

About the gasket, though. I just reuse them with some ultra grey permatex.

Are you using a 13mm square drive socket to remove the plugs? Because they're actually 13mm, not 1/2". 1/2" is only 12.7mm, so if it's really stuck you're gonna round it out just using a 1/2" socket extension.

chrisgt fucked around with this message at 03:10 on May 30, 2013

Saerjin
Jun 29, 2009

chrisgt posted:

You can't just pop the cover... You have to remove the diff from the car to do that. And if you remove the diff, just tip it on its back to drain the oil out the fill hole.

About the gasket, though. I just reuse them with some ultra grey permatex.

Are you using a socket with a 13mm square drive socket to remove the plugs? Because they're actually 13mm, not 1/2". 1/2" is only 12.7mm, so if it's really stuck you're gonna round it out just using a 1/2" socket extension.

Nope I was using bare end of a 1/2", I don't have a 13mm square socket and the 1/2 worked well for the fill plug so I tried my luck on the drain.
Something tells me completely removing the diff is a whole lot of work just to drain and refill.
I suppose i'll go get a 13mm socket tomorrow at the ol harbor freight and give it a shot.

I did read about someone removing 2 bolts to crack it open though and drain it that way, but wouldn't that not be so good considering if you do that you aren't removing any metal shavings or fully inspecting any metal coming out just as a sign of major damages?

I think there's still some hope for a 13mm square socket. it's somewhat rounded on 2 corners but with a correct fit it might be golden.

edit: Part of the reason why I think the filler plug worked so well was the angle it was on, I used the jack to break it loose. Drain plug is positioned where I can only have the wrench dead 90 degrees, no angle for real leverage or room on the side to jack it up to break it.

McSpatula
Aug 5, 2006
Couldn't you just use a transfer pump with some flex hose till it runs dry? I don't know if this seems sacrilegious in the world of maintenance, but it seems like a world's difference between dropping the entire assembly and just sticking in some hose and pumping away.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

To drain diffs, we heat both plugs with oxy/ace and then pop them with a 1/2 inch breaker bar. I've done 5+ diffs this way and never had an issue.

It isn't hard to remove them from the car at all really. You can do it with a jack and hand tools. I like to take them out, knock all the rust off, drain them completely with the fill holes facing the ground, then reinstall and fill them.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
I just use a electric rattle gun.

Then again Australia doesn't have corrosion issues so nothing other than a loving big hammer Ive ever used used outside of that.

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

My 02 Outback H6 started acting funny. When under a bit of load or trying to settle at a speed there's a little surging, like it can't make up it's mind what RPM to stay at. When slowing down it takes a while to downshift. The CEL came on. Checked it out and got P0171.

It also started idling funny. When coming to stop or going to neutral, it jumps to about 2000 RPM for maybe 10 seconds then drops to like 300 then settles up to 500, where it usually idles. As soon as I put it in gear or drive again I can feel the high RPM as it really wants to start pulling.

I'm thinking maybe something to do with the MAF? Going to try to troubleshoot some more. I'm just curious if the weird idling and CEL code have been seen together before.

Soarer
Jan 14, 2012

I JUST CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S PONY AVATARS

~SMcD

AzureSkys posted:

My 02 Outback H6 started acting funny. When under a bit of load or trying to settle at a speed there's a little surging, like it can't make up it's mind what RPM to stay at. When slowing down it takes a while to downshift. The CEL came on. Checked it out and got P0171.

It also started idling funny. When coming to stop or going to neutral, it jumps to about 2000 RPM for maybe 10 seconds then drops to like 300 then settles up to 500, where it usually idles. As soon as I put it in gear or drive again I can feel the high RPM as it really wants to start pulling.

I'm thinking maybe something to do with the MAF? Going to try to troubleshoot some more. I'm just curious if the weird idling and CEL code have been seen together before.

I found this for ya

Some Ford dude posted:

Very common symptoms we all have at one time or another with our 5.4L is a rough idle where we will have high idle for a few seconds when slowing or coming to a stop followed by a drop off to a very low rough idle after stopped for a few seconds sometimes even to the point of stalling out.

I had this problem for a few weeks, and then the weather turned cold, and it got even worse to the point that my ‘ check engine light’ was even coming on. I took it to the dealer, and they replaced my IAC. No change. Still idled rough. Still had the CEL. The only change was the weight of my wallet!! So I turned to the internet!!!

By doing some ( a lot) of research on the subject from other Ford sites and forums, this is a culmination of what I’ve found out. The fix is a little rubber ’boot’ or elbow with a crack or a hole in it causing a vacuum leak.

Source: http://www.expeditionforum.com/f48/rough-idle-cel-p0171-p0174-some-simple-things-check-first-10745/

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Probably a vacuum leak after the MAF.

I had similar problems but not that code from a failing MAF (mine was instead too rich). MAF failure is rare and expensive.

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

Soarer posted:

I found this for ya

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Probably a vacuum leak after the MAF.

Awesome, thank you. I'll start poking around to see what I can find. Really hope it's as simple as that.

Soarer
Jan 14, 2012

I JUST CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S PONY AVATARS

~SMcD

AzureSkys posted:

Awesome, thank you. I'll start poking around to see what I can find. Really hope it's as simple as that.

I'd take off the rubber hosing after the MAF, especially anything that looks like



Bend the hose and look for cracks or rips between the rubber ribs. In fact bend it all, because leaking cracks can hide in a rubber hose, but when bent open right up.

Another method is to apply soap and water to areas and look for bubbles.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
You can also spray MAF cleaner at the hose in various spots while the car idles. If the RPM starts to race after fogging one location it's probably got a leak.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Soarer posted:

Another method is to apply soap and water to areas and look for bubbles.

Isn't that only for pressurized systems? The intake is under vacuum and wouldn't be pushing air out (unlike a leaking bike tire or BBQ fitting which would bubble from bleeding air).

dyne
May 9, 2003
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There is no MAF on an '02 H6; it's MAP based.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

dyne posted:

There is no MAF on an '02 H6; it's MAP based.

Having unmetered air is not really great for MAP sensors either. :v: But thanks, that makes sense.

Soarer
Jan 14, 2012

I JUST CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S PONY AVATARS

~SMcD

Sockington posted:

Isn't that only for pressurized systems? The intake is under vacuum and wouldn't be pushing air out (unlike a leaking bike tire or BBQ fitting which would bubble from bleeding air).

It works on vacuum systems too. The air pulling on it will cause bubbles to form and pop.

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

It was late and raining so I couldn't get too in depth to see. My Air Intake Chamber thing is a bit beat up. Not sure what the previous owner did or if it's cracked. I'll have time this weekend to check it in depth.

I also came across this: http://www.furi-dorifto.com/tech/Subaru_dox/ISCSpring04.pdf
and it says

"If you encounter a driveability concern such as
idle surges or whistling, it may be caused by carbon
buildup on the idle speed control (ISC) valve."

There's always been a whistle/whine sound from the intake area. I got a gasket and will maybe pull the IACV off to clean it well according to this: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781242

Synonamess Botch
Jun 5, 2006

dicks are for my cat
I need to replace the upper radiator reservoir on my 03 wrx because it's leaking from the welds on the neck, where it joins the tank. I can only get the new style plastic ones and the whole unit, mine is the original aluminum. So.. can I just undo the five odd bolts on top and replace with the new top plate and gasket? Have an aluminum tank with a plastic top?

e: newer style is a completely sealed unit so I clearly cannot do this, whoops, ignore.

Synonamess Botch fucked around with this message at 15:32 on May 31, 2013

Amandyke
Nov 27, 2004

A wha?

Synonamess Botch posted:

I need to replace the upper radiator reservoir on my 03 wrx because it's leaking from the welds on the neck, where it joins the tank. I can only get the new style plastic ones and the whole unit, mine is the original aluminum. So.. can I just undo the five odd bolts on top and replace with the new top plate and gasket? Have an aluminum tank with a plastic top?

e: newer style is a completely sealed unit so I clearly cannot do this, whoops, ignore.

Couldn't you just get the aluminum welds touched up?

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
So I'm looking at an '03 Impreza TS hopefully sometime this weekend - I can't seem to find any pictures of what an MLS vs. regular gasket looks like when you're looking at the top of the engine in the engine bay.

Almost guaranteed it's going to be a regular gasket from the sound of the OP though. :sigh:

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
You'll be able to tell just looking at the gasket where it sticks out between the block and heads. The layers of MLS gaskets separate a little there because they are being squeezed together. The non mls gasket is just one layer of steel with a coating.

Synonamess Botch posted:

I need to replace the upper radiator reservoir on my 03 wrx because it's leaking from the welds on the neck, where it joins the tank. I can only get the new style plastic ones and the whole unit, mine is the original aluminum. So.. can I just undo the five odd bolts on top and replace with the new top plate and gasket? Have an aluminum tank with a plastic top?

e: newer style is a completely sealed unit so I clearly cannot do this, whoops, ignore.

There are a couple of aftermarket aluminum tanks out there. Crawford and Moroso make them and there are probably a couple others if you want to go that way. They're about $150 though.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

jamal posted:

You'll be able to tell just looking at the gasket where it sticks out between the block and heads. The layers of MLS gaskets separate a little there because they are being squeezed together. The non mls gasket is just one layer of steel with a coating.

Don't worry, Jamal. Sent him a 1.75mb photo of my gaskets from the requested angle (MLS).

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
This is it:

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

I cleaned the IACV as best as I could. All the vacuum hoses look fine. The chamber air-intake is a mess, though. For some reason it's got epoxy all over the back and bottom. I sealed it up and put light compressed air in and sprayed with soapy water. Bubbles everywhere.

It's Part # 14435AA074. Looks to be around $110 new. I'll check some wrecking yards in the morning, too. I really hope this is all that's causing the issues.

Also, the Duct Air Intake PN 46012AE06B is missing. Is that important?

AzureSkys fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jun 1, 2013

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Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




The snorkel (46012AE06B) isn't a huge deal, but the other you definitely need sealed. Without the snorkel, you'll just get hotter air in your intake. I'd still recommend getting it though. If it's the same as a WRX one, people throw them away all the time so it should be cheap. If the other piece is leaking, then your air meter isn't really doing it job of reporting how much air is going into your engine. If you strike out at the junkyard, post a WTB on a forum for your specific car and I'm sure somebody can help you out that's parting out a car.

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