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El Gallinero Gros posted:Patton Oswalt did an AMA on Reddit yesterday, and said he's finishing a second book covering his life/career from 95-99. I didn't know he was that old.
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Not quite sure where I heard it but I think Patton is deceptively old, like 56 or something.
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May 29, 2013 20:09
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rear end Catchcum posted:Not quite sure where I heard it but I think Patton is deceptively old, like 56 or something. He's in his mid 40s, same as everybody else from the 90s alternative comedy scene. He pretty much looks his age too.
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May 29, 2013 20:19
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rear end Catchcum posted:Not quite sure where I heard it but I think Patton is deceptively old, like 56 or something. I think you're thinking of Doug Benson, who is in fact deceptively old.
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May 29, 2013 20:58
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Yeah, Benson's nearly 50. Also, what stand-up should I check out on Netflix while I have the month trial? Obviously I've seen all of Louie's stuff, Stanhope's stuff, Tosh's stuff. I've seen all of Aziz's stuff too. Everything by any and all of the Comedians of Comedy. First thing I watched on there was Moshe Kasher Live in Oakland. I definitely want to check out Brian Posehn's stand-up from last year. The work he did between Nerd Rage and The Fartist was really iffy, so I'm curious to see if he's returned to form with The Fartist.
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May 29, 2013 23:09
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I assume The Fartist is a TV only special? Because he only has 2 albums.
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May 29, 2013 23:33
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escape artist posted:Yeah, Benson's nearly 50. I would watch all of the John Oliver's New York Stand Up Show -- they're a really great mix of awesome people. I was also a big fan of The Benson Interruption which may still be on there. Dana Gould is always great, too. Also while you have Netflix I definitely recommend you watch Bunk if you didn't watch it on IFC last year. I think it's hilarious.
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May 29, 2013 23:37
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It's not standup, but watch Sleepwalk With Me if you haven't already. Even if you're not a fan of Mike Birbiglia. More not standup: half of the ASSSSCAT dvd is on Netflix (and the Bravo special is on Youtube somewhere if you haven't seen it), as is American: The Bill Hicks Story, Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work, Conan O'Brien Can't Stop (not a huge fan of Conan but I still liked it). Actual standup: Zach Galifianakis Live at the Purple Onion, uh... that's all I see in the standup comedy section that you didn't mention and that I liked. I don't like a lot of standup though. Conduit for Sale! fucked around with this message at 00:01 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 29, 2013 23:54
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detectivemonkey posted:Dana Gould is always great, too. I also remember when Doug Benson was a prop comic. That also feels wrong.
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May 29, 2013 23:56
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Oh, that new(ish?) Bobcat Goldthwait special is good too.
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May 30, 2013 00:04
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All these are great suggestions. You know I like sketch/podcast/improv/stand-up, whatever. I already have the Mike Birbiglia film. And I bought Live at the Purple Onion like 6 years ago. poo poo, just found a Todd Glass special on there. Also, I love Bobcat so I want to see that special. John Oliver's stand-up show and Benson Interruption are both gone 
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escape artist posted:poo poo, just found a Todd Glass special on there. Ehhh... I don't think it was very good. I liked Thin Pig, and I like him as a guy that's on podcasts and is funny, but the newest special seemed kinda preachy. Which would be fine, except that there wasn't nearly enough humor to go along with that preaching. It could be that I'd heard basically all the material on podcasts already, but I suppose that's his fault for constantly using his material in podcasts.
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May 30, 2013 00:12
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Browsing Netflix is a loving nightmare. I didn't see that Dana Gould special, which I'll definitely watch. And the Eddie Izzard that I haven't seen. Arj Barker special will be good if it's not the same as his old album. Colin Quinn's Long Story Short is honestly brilliant. It needs to be seen.
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May 30, 2013 00:18
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Viacom, owner of Comedy Central, just pulled out of Netflix so stand-up is going to be super thin on there now.
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May 30, 2013 02:34
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Is anybody interested in a ticket for Anthony Jeselnik in Portland on next Friday, the 7th? I ordered it was early thinking I was fine and I'm not going to be in town on that weekend. Super pissed off. Pretty good seats near the front too. They don't do refunds, but the site said I can call and ask about someone else picking it up from Will Call. If they won't do that then I guess it's just $25 down the drain. I thought I would ask around here since I'd rather someone go and enjoy him than them going to waste. Sorry mods if I shouldn't post this here, I just figured most people possibly interested would be in here.
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May 30, 2013 06:45
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Bill Burr's specials are AMAZING. If you haven't seen any Bill Burr, you're in for a treat shortly!
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sharktamer posted:I didn't know he was that old. I was surprised to find out he was 95-99 years old. Wooooooosh.
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May 30, 2013 08:21
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Groucho Marxist posted:Viacom, owner of Comedy Central, just pulled out of Netflix so stand-up is going to be super thin on there now. drat, I never got around to Moeshe Kasher and Nick Kroll's specials. Any alternatives out there? Hulu+ or something?
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May 30, 2013 08:54
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That Moshe Kasher special on Netflix is a Netflix produced thing isn't it? So it's not gonna be taken down I wouldn't think.
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May 30, 2013 13:42
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Netflix also has a lot of Katt Williams specials, but he can either be funny or TERRIBLE depending on which one and there are so many of them I'm not sure which are the funny ones.
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^^^^^The key to Katt Williams specials are: Is he sweating profusely through his pimp suit? Then it's a good show. The Original Kings of Comedy is on instant streaming the last time I checked. Eddie Murphy's first two specials are on Netflix and required viewing for any stand-up fan. Also a fun time capsule of an era where it was fine for a popular entertainer to use the word human being. Not like today where someone like Tyler the Creator is vilified and his career ended because of it lol just playing. George Carlin has a poo poo ton of specials on Netflix and since they were all on HBO, they shouldn't be affected by the Viacom pullout. Complaints and Grievances is one of his better later specials despite an untimely rant against airport security a couple months before 9/11. Carlin does a couple bits and then just goes down a list of stuff that pisses him off ending with an edited list of the 10 Commandants.
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Mordecai Sanchez posted:Eddie Murphy's first two specials are on Netflix and required viewing for any stand-up fan. Also a fun time capsule of an era where it was fine for a popular entertainer to use the word human being. Not like today where someone like Tyler the Creator is vilified and his career ended because of it lol just playing. In retrospect, it turns out Eddie was just trying to take the word back.
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I just don't get the Eddie Murphy specials. Maybe it's because I am queer, but I was really put off by how he used "human being" twice every line. It wasn't offensive because of that, it was offensive because it seemed so lazy.
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escape artist posted:I just don't get the Eddie Murphy specials. Maybe it's because I am queer, but I was really put off by how he used "human being" twice every line. It wasn't offensive because of that, it was offensive because it seemed so lazy. Yeah, it's pretty hard to get past that. Everyone always says how Eddie Murphy is one of the greatest comedians of all time on account of his early standup, but even ignoring the potential for his language to be deemed offensive in a reactionary way it never seemed all that well crafted to me. I've seen Raw and the other ones people cite as examples all the time and they've all felt like flat comedy trying to get cheap laughs by being edgy. It's difficult to tell if people are just looking at it with rose-tinted glasses or if it was only funny at the time on account of being revolutionary or what. Norbit was poo poo though. I'm sure of that much.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Yeah, it's pretty hard to get past that. Everyone always says how Eddie Murphy is one of the greatest comedians of all time on account of his early standup, but even ignoring the potential for his language to be deemed offensive in a reactionary way it never seemed all that well crafted to me. I've seen Raw and the other ones people cite as examples all the time and they've all felt like flat comedy trying to get cheap laughs by being edgy. It's difficult to tell if people are just looking at it with rose-tinted glasses or if it was only funny at the time on account of being revolutionary or what. I have no idea how old you are, but I was a kid when the Eddie Murphy specials hit, and they set the goddamn world on fire. He was the guy that was handed the torch by Richard Pryor (another guy whose work hasn't aged very gracefully imo) and, I guess it being a product of its time, was the funniest and edgiest thing going. There was literally no one I knew, kid or adult, who didn't think the guy was brilliant. There's still a few of his bits that hold up very well, but a lot of it is just plain cringeworthy now. Bear in mind, I'm from a generation that threw the word human being around pretty liberally until we decided it was time to grow up, and we also made Dice and Sam loving Kinison megastars. We've got a few things to answer for. Speaking of old comedians, I saw that Jake Johansen has a fairly recent standup special on Netflix, and it might be almost 20 years since I've heard anything by him. Any good?
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It's primarily his charisma and stage presence. Murphy's act has aged incredibly poorly though. Due to as you point out a lot of the punch lines just being "I don't want that fag to suck my dick!" I honestly think it was less the edge but his presence and there are some great story telling moments in his sets too. As Dummy points out there were other edgy comedians from that era and prior. This doesn't make it inherently good or bad but it was a different era and now as we move on and then look back this looks even more dated.
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Plus a lot of his hatred towards gays was really just self-hatred since he's most likely a closeted gay/bisexual.
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DangerDummy! posted:Speaking of old comedians, I saw that Jake Johansen has a fairly recent standup special on Netflix, and it might be almost 20 years since I've heard anything by him. Any good? If you're talking about "I Love You", the standup is great. But the direction/editing of the special is terrible.
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FitFortDanga posted:If you're talking about "I Love You", the standup is great. But the direction/editing of the special is terrible. I just watched it, and he's still very funny. He's one of those guys like Kevin James or Ricky Gervais, where even if the material isn't great he's a fun guy to watch for the sake of his delivery. But yeah, the direction is bizarre. The MTV editing was bad enough, but for some reason they decided to shove the camera up his nose every so often for good measure. On second thought, I'm going to take Gervais out of the equation just because his last special was loving atrocious. Speaking as a dyed in the wool athiest, if there's one thing I cannot stand is listening to an athiest go on and on about how loving smart and clever they are. It's just goddamn exhausting and obnoxious. Yeah, we get it. Jesus was queer. Hilarious.
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Eddie Murpy Raw is still my favorite stand up special of all time.
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Let's all name our favorite comedy specials. Mine is Jeff Dunham - I don't really feel like looking up the name of a Jeff Dunham special. You know, the one where he's racist and is an adult playing with children's toys and this creeps nobody out.
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Conduit for Sale! posted:Let's all name our favorite comedy specials. A racist adult playing with children's toys, no wonder he's so popular in America.
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I brought this up last time eddy Murphy raw was brought up, but watching it now is really really uncomfortable. Because he obviously has a real talent and charisma, but he seriously opens the show by saying he doesn't want to turn around to the audience because he is scared that a human being will gently caress him in the rear end and give him aids. Like how do you even respond to that.
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I know it's the oldest joke in the book but I can't take anyone in tight bright leather calling me a 'human being' seriously. But yea it is really gross remembering that a decent hunk of his old stuff was just "THOSE FUCKIN GAYS SURE ARE GROSS YEA?!"
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The_Rob posted:I brought this up last time eddy Murphy raw was brought up, but watching it now is really really uncomfortable. Because he obviously has a real talent and charisma, but he seriously opens the show by saying he doesn't want to turn around to the audience because he is scared that a human being will gently caress him in the rear end and give him aids. Its truly uncomfortable and terrible but the last half is still pretty terrific.
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Serious chat, incoming. Alright so what's everyone's opinion on rape jokes and the c-word in comedy? Let me explain: All of a sudden, there is so much outrage, just out of nowhere it seems, about these topics. Salon.com, Jezebel, even the Nation is writing about it. Some comics are joking that they should get a "Louis CK card" that allows them to joke about anything, because he never gets poo poo for his jokes. Everybody acts as if people who make jokes... jokes, mind you, are MRAs or misogynists. What do you think? I mean, half the audience is women, and the whole audience is laughing. I just wonder-- do you think in 20 years we'll look back on Louis CK and Daniel Tosh and whomever else, and think the same thing we do about Eddie Murphy now?
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escape artist posted:I just wonder-- do you think in 20 years we'll look back on Louis CK and Daniel Tosh and whomever else, and think the same thing we do about Eddie Murphy now? I don't think you need to travel into the future to find people who think that Daniel Tosh is tasteless.
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escape artist posted:Serious chat, incoming. If you buy into Chris Rock's philosophy on stuff like that, and I kinda do, if it's funny, then it's okay to laugh at it. It's really up to your own moral barometer. There's a lot of grey area there, but what people find funny and what people find offensive is a pretty arbitrary thing. Carlin's bit about Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd is hilarious. Tosh's bit about wouldn't it be funny if she was gang-raped isn't, but then again, there's no real joke there. Also, and this is just from my personal experience mind you, I work with a lot of women, and I've observed men more than women getting uncomfortable with the word oval office, but it relies very heavily on context. I'm not a huge fan of guys referring to women as bitches and cunts. I had to dress down one of my subordinates for thinking the word "bitches" was interchangeable for "women". Whatever. Long story short, it all comes down to personal taste, though prevailing social trends will eventually dictate how acceptable certain jokes will be, as evidenced by the whole Eddie Murphy discussion. If the social mass deems it unacceptable, eventually it's going to go away. quote:Mine is Jeff Dunham - I don't really feel like looking up the name of a Jeff Dunham special. You know, the one where he's racist and is an adult playing with children's toys and this creeps nobody out. If you could think of the name of the special I'd be very grateful tia DangerDummy! fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Jun 3, 2013 |
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