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As far as I can tell, the trick is to turn your capital into a super castle so your heir always has a sweet power base to use to keep his brothers in line. Anyway, exactly how do you reform the faith? I've got Uppland , Skaeland and picked up zeeland in a successon crises, but I have no idea how to get this thing started. I went on a massive raid and sacrificed a boatload of english and moorish prisoners to Odin, made a runestone ect, what am I missing here ?
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Kainser posted:Decided to run a handsoff game and welp: Now do it with Sunset Invasion on!
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May 30, 2013 12:47
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Kainser posted:Decided to run a handsoff game and welp: Good god, I hope the ck2+ old gods version makes all independence revolts about 15 times more powerful than they are right now, because I don't know how and that's what they need to be at all viable.
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May 30, 2013 12:50
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TOOT BOOT posted:Is it possible to capture the pope? I'd like to know this too. Seems like a fun challenge to capture the pope. 
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May 30, 2013 12:57
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Torabi posted:I'd like to know this too. Seems like a fun challenge to capture the pope. Yes, Pope gets captured regularly, as most popes like to lead their armies and eagerly join just about any holy war near Italy.
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May 30, 2013 13:08
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So, I just had the Great Seljuk show up. Problem is, he doesn't really seem to do anything. He didn't get a province and just sits around leading his army, doing nothing in another guy's province. The province he showed up in was rebelling at the time, I guess he's actually supposed to get it, because I tried to give him a province and switch to him and it appears he can't declare war whils his troops are in a non-hostile country. 444 Also can the Seljuks declare invasions against kingdoms like te Mongols can? Cause switiching to the guy it appeared he could only do the Muslim single-county conquest thing, and holy wars, not really enough to conquer an empire in any respectable span of time, especially when all the potential targets, but one, are multi-duchy (mega-Hungary is multi-kingdom of course). I'm thinking of maybe just save-editing to make him appropriately  (crappy randomly generated stats don't really fit for a conqueror and dynast) and giving him claims on the main titles of the Samanids and Saffarids, and then let him loose. Hope he can eventually do something to throw the Abbasids off their feet as they are simply too goddamned powerful in my game, and they've been sitting at 100% decadence for quite some time now, haven't seen a decadence invasion yet. Is the power of those invasions scaled according the state they are trying to take over?
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May 30, 2013 13:18
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Ghetto Prince posted:As far as I can tell, the trick is to turn your capital into a super castle so your heir always has a sweet power base to use to keep his brothers in line. In the Religion window there's a button in the top left corner for reforming the religion. Either click it or mouse-over it to see what you're missing.
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May 30, 2013 13:23
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Trip report from The Old Gods: (Thanks to Chinook, who gifted it to me as a payday advance) I still don't understand this game at all. I did, however, have fun taking Ivar the Boneless around the entirety of the British Isles looting and conquering all the way. Then he died in battle at the age of 60-something and things went to hell from there.
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May 30, 2013 13:26
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 Jesus christ, even for CK2  Edit: How the gently caress are you meant to get anything done with Gavelkind? I went from being able to call 2000 troops to barely over 500. It's absolutely crippling. I guess it makes sense to raid as much as possible early on and then just throw Mercenaries at everything? SkySteak fucked around with this message at 14:07 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 13:40
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SkySteak posted:Edit: How the gently caress are you meant to get anything done with Gavelkind? I went from being able to call 2000 troops to barely over 500. It's absolutely crippling. I guess it makes sense to raid as much as possible early on and then just throw Mercenaries at everything? Never have more than one son inherit. Give all the rejects temples and if you run out of temples murder them. Basically it's only a problem if your ruler dies early and unexpectedly, because otherwise it's fairly easy to swing it so that all your other sons are ineligible. You can also try having a single son and then having your wife murdered, but that's risky because if that son dies and you don't manage to get a new one you are in deep poo poo.
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May 30, 2013 14:10
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Or you just roleplay it and fight your brothers for your inheritance like a true pagan, The game isn't very hard if you are minmaxing and disinheriting/killing all kids but one e; but yeah, raiding is incredibly overpowered right now so you can just throw mercenaries at all problems as a Norse. Kainser fucked around with this message at 14:34 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 14:31
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Not as a Norse ruler in Britain. I had two possible mercenary companies, and both were usually hired by someone else. I pored the money into holdings instead.
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I kind of like it. It functions as a kind of incentive to either reform or convert to an organized religion. The old ways cannot last Thoug I've been playing CK2+ for so long that I had forgot that you needed high CA in order to enact primogeniture, so I guess you should do it with a strong ruler with good diplomacy who has good vassal relations if you have a large empire you want to pass intact to your designated heir, since you have to do at least one generation with elective before you can change to primogeniture.
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May 30, 2013 14:36
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Randarkman posted:I kind of like it. It functions as a kind of incentive to either reform or convert to an organized religion. Yeah it's a good incentive. It's just that I've been used to either Elective Monarchy where I'm the only Elector or Muslim system.
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May 30, 2013 14:39
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SkySteak posted:Edit: How the gently caress are you meant to get anything done with Gavelkind? I went from being able to call 2000 troops to barely over 500. It's absolutely crippling. I guess it makes sense to raid as much as possible early on and then just throw Mercenaries at everything? If you keep a single higher tier title than the rest of your titles, your realm will remain intact, so you'll still have powerful realm levies.
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Started playing TOG last night and went on a raiding binge all around Europe. Can't decide which was more fun, raiding the Vatican or sacking Constantinople. Either way I'm positively swimming in gold now, time to go collect holy sites and reform the Norse religion. For Odin!
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May 30, 2013 15:00
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So is the Aztec invasion just broken in TOG or in the old game too? I started a new game post patch and now I'm sitting in 1160 as the genius Queen of unified Ireland, so now reading about this makes me wonder if my game is about to break. Could I just uncheck Sunset Invasion next time I load up the game?
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Dauntasa posted:Never have more than one son inherit. Give all the rejects temples and if you run out of temples murder them. If you want to do it that way, you could avoid getting married and just have concubines. Once you have a son you can set them aside. There's a minor penalty for being son of a concubine, but it's easier than killing your wife.
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May 30, 2013 15:54
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From a meta perspective, The Old Gods is just perfect. Before TOG, when you start as an Irish count or something, long stretches of the early game consisted of waiting. Waiting for money to finally upgrade something/ assassinate someone/ hire mercenaries, with a bit of waiting for inheritances thrown in. Now you can raid the coasts of Europe, or at least the counties around you if you play other pagans. The early game as a ruler of a small realm is much more active and interesting. I wonder what Paradox could do to spice up the game for non-pagan rulers?
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It's a bit weird how Pagans and Muslims have all these fancy features and superpowers now, while the boring old Catholic church can, uh, excommunicate people? 
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May 30, 2013 16:03
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Hey guys I have these big black marks on my map anyone know how to get rid of them? The game is still perfectly playable but they're rather annoying.
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May 30, 2013 16:07
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Looks like sea level is falling.
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Turn flatmap back on? It's some thing in the settings.txt, can't remember what. Probably draw_water.
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On the topic of maps, does anyone know of a guide to altering the shape of provinces/adding new ones?
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Lord Lambeth posted:Hey guys I have these big black marks on my map You should've rammed the elder god with your longboat while you still had a chance. e: Schizotek posted:On the topic of maps, does anyone know of a guide to altering the shape of provinces/adding new ones? http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?585952-TUTORIAL-Creating-new-provinces-counties There's no good tutorial for making a map from scratch, though.
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What's a good strategy for dealing with un-married younger brothers when I start a game? Should I just try to give them something to do, if possible, and keep them unmarried? Are they nice wild cards to use to form alliances when possible?
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I've been trying to update my Sonendar mod to the latest patch version. It loads fine up till "Loading graphics", then it crashes. Does anyone have any clues as to why?
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Kainser posted:It's a bit weird how Pagans and Muslims have all these fancy features and superpowers now, while the boring old Catholic church can, uh, excommunicate people? Which is why Theocracies make the perfect next DLC. Catholic feudal rulers were the most fleshed out when the game came out, then everyone else got an expansion with loads of flavor and cool new poo poo to do, until Catholicism started to look bland. I hope Paradox are thinking the same way and the next addon is a result of learning from the currently available DLC to bring back pizazz to the game's original focus. Saints! Knights! Hierarchies! Monasteries! Cathedrals! Heresy! All that cool stuff that you associate with the Middle Ages, except now in actual context.
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I'm running England as an elective monarchy, is there any real advantage to creating the five or so duchies that don't exist yet? Seems to me it would only mean more electors to worry about, but is there some advantage I'm missing?
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May 30, 2013 16:30
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DrSunshine posted:I've been trying to update my Sonendar mod to the latest patch version. It loads fine up till "Loading graphics", then it crashes. Does anyone have any clues as to why? Have you changed the interface at all? I bet it's something to do with the interface.
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e:Nvm.
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I had two sons, both went off to fight in the Varangian guard. The older came home more skilled and wiser. The younger came home castrated and blinded. Time to burn Constantinople
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Schizotek posted:For whatever reason I can't view most of the official forums even with an account that's been around for a couple weeks. I can't view the paradox forums either. It keeps saying I haven't sent my new password to the meta-server no matter how many times I click the button in my games list.
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Anyone know whats up with that?
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What's the purpose of Reforming the Norse Religion? What do you get from it?
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I just got the Republic DLC during the sale and was wondering if anyone has any advice for playing republics, ie what to do where to start how to succeed in general. I know pretty uch nothing about playing them.JerikTelorian posted:What's the purpose of Reforming the Norse Religion? What do you get from it? You can force vassals to convert to your religion if they like you and can change you succession laws to Primogeniture or Elective. Probably some other stuff I havent done it yet.
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StashAugustine posted:I'm running England as an elective monarchy, is there any real advantage to creating the five or so duchies that don't exist yet? Seems to me it would only mean more electors to worry about, but is there some advantage I'm missing? Raising troops is easier with a few dukes replacing the many counts, and you get more prestige, but from a powergaming perspective you should not create these duchies. Elective monarchy with few electors is the best system in the game, increasing the number of electors is always risky.
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JerikTelorian posted:What's the purpose of Reforming the Norse Religion? What do you get from it? You can have higher than Low Crown authority as well, and call holy wars.
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This game confuses the gently caress out of me. I tried Googling for an answer to my beginner's question but failed: Someone - one of my vassals - has declared war on me, so I round up the troops and besiege all the provinces in their duchy. Now each one of those areas has solid (not dotted) red diagonal lines across it, and is listed as being 'Occupied' by me. Now what? I understand the idea of fabricating CB in order to justifying declaring war, but I fail to get how to claim someone's lands once I've murdered their armies and successfully besieged their lands. Usually I play diplomatically in these games but this brings out the tyrant within.
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