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Anals of History posted:Best I've heard was Bomani Jones' podcast. Felt like he did the best job of anyone I've heard when it comes to treating athletes as human beings and sports as a business. Problem is, he can't talk sports on his podcast anymore as part of his new contract with ESPN. The good news is, he's excellent on Highly Questionable and probably the most enjoyable panelist they put on Around the Horn. Seriously, Highly Questionable is somehow the most enjoyable show ESPN has these days. Just Bomani, Dan LeBetard and his dad sitting at a table chilling about sports topics. Also, his old SBNation series on youtube is quite solid as well, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9IRJ6FHF0
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Crazy Ted posted:Wilbon and Kornheiser were pretty good before they started thinking they were TV stars and basically started caring more about acting like they were important than they did about actually putting effort into their work. I feel like that was way more Wilbon than Kornheiser, but maybe that's just me. Remember when they stuffed him on to Monday Night Football? After a few games, he kept up with the "football tourist" schtick, but you could tell (and maybe this is hindsight) he was wondering what the hell he was doing there. He would probably be be first person to tell you he had no business being in an "analyst" position in a football broadcast booth.
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MourningView posted:Please don't watch Around the Horn. It's a guilty pleasure. I certainly won't speak well of its quality, but it's an interesting intersection of opinions you don't really get exposed to on SA. Like, where else am I going to hear an advocate for every wrong and terrible opinion that Bill Plashke provides without also being saved by someone cutting him off after 15 seconds of it?
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ElwoodCuse posted:If I remember the ESPN book, PTI was basically how they talked with each other every day. Someone wanted to make it into a show and Tony said "that's terrible, no one would watch that." Hell, when the channel itself debuted there were network executives who thought that ESPN was pointless, couldn't possibly fill a channel with enough sporting events, and that people would get bored of it. Back then (1979) major college basketball was still on things like HBO.
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ElwoodCuse posted:If I remember the ESPN book, PTI was basically how they talked with each other every day. Someone wanted to make it into a show and Tony said "that's terrible, no one would watch that." Also, when the show started people at the Washington Post who had it on couldn't tell the difference aside from the fact they didn't curse. That's how genuine it was.
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The broken bones posted:bring back stump the schwab On the more positive side, the latest 30 for 30 short on Clint Malarchuk and his neck injury is well worth 11 minutes of your time.
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MourningView posted:Please don't watch Around the Horn. Counterpoint: Do watch (or at least follow Twitter while the show's being played) on Ash Wednesday.
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The Prisoner posted:On the more positive side, the latest 30 for 30 short on Clint Malarchuk and his neck injury is well worth 11 minutes of your time. I know in the internet explosion that has happened since Malarchuk's injury, we've become somewhat desensitized. I still can't watch it over again. Saw it once and if I can help it, that will be the only time.
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MourningView posted:Please don't watch Around the Horn. Really you should only watch the actual games themselves and nothing else. And if you're tempted to listen to a call in sports radio show, you should probably throw yourself out a window. Oh, and if you're in Pittsburgh and its Mark Madden, try to find a way to take him with you.
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Replace "Pittsburgh" with "Seattle" and "Mark Madden" with "everybody on KJR" and you have my predicament.
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Anals of History posted:Best I've heard was Bomani Jones' podcast. Felt like he did the best job of anyone I've heard when it comes to treating athletes as human beings and sports as a business. Problem is, he can't talk sports on his podcast anymore as part of his new contract with ESPN. Bomani Jones is such a weird guy. He seems intelligent and can really breakdown a sports topic, but his Twitter feed was like an angsty 14 year old.
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Benne posted:Replace "Pittsburgh" with "Seattle" and "Mark Madden" with "everybody on KJR" and you have my predicament. If there was one thing I learned about the Kings/Sonics debacle it's that if I ever go to Seattle I know which station to not listen to. Holy poo poo KJR is full of trash and morons.
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Sash! posted:Really you should only watch the actual games themselves and nothing else. Just hearing the commercials during Pirates games is enough to make me pray for the death of everyone in the Pittsburgh sports media, I can't imagine actually listening to a show voluntarily.
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Benne posted:Replace "Pittsburgh" with "Seattle" and "Mark Madden" with "everybody on KJR" and you have my predicament. Sports radio is ignorant and toxic as a general rule, though of the the last two places I've lived, DC sports radio can't hold a candle to Raleigh sports radio in terms of complete bitchiness and shitiness
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Badfinger posted:I feel like that was way more Wilbon than Kornheiser, but maybe that's just me. The ESPN book goes into detail with Tony saying he probably shouldn't have done it but shockingly Bill Simmons saying Mike Tirico was so jealous that he hosed Tony over by never laughing at his jokes.
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swizz posted:Sports radio is ignorant and toxic as a general rule, though of the the last two places I've lived, DC sports radio can't hold a candle to Raleigh sports radio in terms of complete bitchiness and shitiness I think the fact that DC Sports radio pretty much talks about the Redskins and only the Redskins causes that bitterness to be distilled over the course of a season.
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Has anyone created a definitive ranking of sports Fake edit: this could be wrapped into a Around the Horn branded tabletop RPG.
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Today I discovered that, per his podcast, Bill Simmons believes that the Grizzlies fans got quiet and tense when their team fell behind in game three against the Spurs because the city is still dealing with feelings instilled by the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.
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Sash! posted:And if you're tempted to listen to a call in sports radio show, you should probably throw yourself out a window. Oh, and if you're in Pittsburgh and its Mark Madden, try to find a way to take him with you. The last time I listened to a sports talk show, the host ended the show 15 minutes after I tuned in by insulting the management and quitting. I'm afraid that nothing is going to top it.
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Swagger Dagger posted:Today I discovered that, per his podcast, Bill Simmons believes that the Grizzlies fans got quiet and tense when their team fell behind in game three against the Spurs because the city is still dealing with feelings instilled by the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. What the gently caress!? I don't even know how he came to that conclusion.
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BasicFunk posted:What the gently caress!? I don't even know how he came to that conclusion. I'm pretty sure Bill Simmons is aware of the MLK assassination because it was a key plot point on an episode of Mad Men this season.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I know in the internet explosion that has happened since Malarchuk's injury, we've become somewhat desensitized. I still can't watch it over again. Saw it once and if I can help it, that will be the only time. I was actually one of the first people to post that clip to the internet, I had the game on VHS...so, sorry?
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Kalli posted:The good news is, he's excellent on Highly Questionable and probably the most enjoyable panelist they put on Around the Horn. Definitely digging HQ, but I enjoyed it most when he goes off on sports stuff. That one podcast dedicated to Bobby Petrino was art. I'm glad that he's getting paid and getting airtime, but I'll miss the uncensored sports commentary. Niwrad posted:Bomani Jones is such a weird guy. He seems intelligent and can really breakdown a sports topic, but his Twitter feed was like an angsty 14 year old. Yeah, he's quick to get in on those flame wars. That said, he's got loads of dumb sports fans serving bad opinions with a side of thinly-veiled racism every day so I'm kinda surprised he isn't more of a jerk. Mildly related: I hate Woody Paige and I hate the tubby little dipshits out there who look up to him.
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soggybagel posted:I really really liked Max Kellerman on Around the Horn. I agree; I miss him on TV. Tying it back to journalism, y'all should read Gary Smith's excellent piece on the death of Sam Kellerman. soggybagel posted:Plus I like boxing Good God why
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sba posted:I was actually one of the first people to post that clip to the internet, I had the game on VHS...so, sorry? I never saw it on the internet. I also recorded it on VHS out of morbid teen curiosity. Recorded it and never watched it again.
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soggybagel posted:I really really liked Max Kellerman on Around the Horn. Plus I like boxing so I liked when he'd talk about it I watched Around the Horn until he left. I thought it wouldn't last without him. What did I know 
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R.D. Mangles posted:I'm pretty sure Bill Simmons is aware of the MLK assassination because it was a key plot point on an episode of Mad Men this season. Simmons has a weird history writing about stuff like that. Remember his basketball book when he'd say something like "I'm not black enough to write about this but.." and go on for paragraphs about the hall of fame or whatever? As Charles Pierce said: Charles Pierce posted:Oh, Lord, reading Simmons on race and/or history is like watching those guys in The Wages Of Fear drive the nitroglycerin down the mountain.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I never saw it on the internet. I also recorded it on VHS out of morbid teen curiosity. Recorded it and never watched it again. I was too young to figure out what was going on, but I thought my father was going to throw up.
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Stories like this need to die.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Do you like running? Yes? No? Whatever. Just read this piece and get back to me. This was posted a while ago, but I just want to thank you for posting this. That's loving incredible.
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barkingclam posted:Simmons has a weird history writing about stuff like that. Remember his basketball book when he'd say something like "I'm not black enough to write about this but.." and go on for paragraphs about the hall of fame or whatever? As Charles Pierce said: I think the need to immediately contextualize any sporting against an overly broad historical backdrop is Simmons' signature tic. The further he reaches from the field of play, the dumber the theories become (or maybe it just becomes more obvious). Then again, I'd say that the compulsion to immediately put every event in historical context is an issue with pretty much every facet of media right now.
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Dave Zirin actually defended Simmons http://www.thenation.com/blog/174587/defense-bill-simmons-seriously Ordinarily I like Dave but I disagree with him here. I also feel like he thought about this wayyyyy harder than Bill "hey, I saw The Wire, I know about race" Simmons did
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While I am of a similar political persuasion to Zirin and enjoy his writing in small doses (mostly because I prefer hockey, and he essentially ignored the NHL lockout--which would have been pretty interesting to see his coverage of it--because "no one cares about hockey, while people care about the NBA"), he makes it hard to like him when he follows up that defense of Bill Simmons by calling for Roy Hibbert to be suspended for Game 7 for making a "pause/no homo" joke in an interview: http://www.thenation.com/blog/174612/no-homo-no-way-suspend-roy-hibbert-game-7 (He's backtracked a bit from it, but still.)
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Keith Olbermann has been signed to work TBS' postseason baseball studio show. This makes a lot of sense given his baseball knowledge: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/keith-olbermann-returning-tv-turner-562696
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In light of the recent PED baseball news, a radio station did a dumb urine testing stunt. In went wrong in the best possible way. http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/june/when-staged-sports-talk-radio-urine-tests-go-wrong.html
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